Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Graham Percival
Yes, particularly for basic stuff like this. You might encounter the occasional example that doesn't work in 2.10, but those will be relatively rare. IIRC everything in the LM will apply to 2.10 as well. - Graham On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:56:07PM -0700, chip wrote: So even though I am

Re: Lilypond Tool on Mac 10.4.3

2008-11-16 Thread Brett Duncan
Craig Bakalian wrote: Hi, Has anyone out there downloaded the LilypondTool jEdit and have got it to work? I am just so cautious these days with java on Mac OS 10. I used to program heavily in java, but have not in 7 years. So, I am not even up to date on the different names for the

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Saturday, November 15, 2008 3:32 PM 2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Trevor Daniels wrote: Yes. Could you check the creation date of the large cache file, and if that date is within your daylight saving period try deleting the entire lilypond font cache, ie

Re: chords and midiInstrument

2008-11-16 Thread Johan Vromans
coralline algae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thank you Johan that works nicely. set ChordNames.midiInstrument by way of explanation - with piano for the chords it almost drowns out the melody line in midi playback \set ChordNames.midiMaximumVolume = #0.5 or some other figure.

Re: jedit/lilypond tool/surround text

2008-11-16 Thread northofscotland
Many thanks, I've been looking for a way to do this for ages! Martial-3 wrote: hello JeDit/LilyPondTool menu Utilities Global Options in the pan left : Jedit select shortcuts in pan right at the top select All or Plugin: lilyPondTool bellow

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Your example worked fine for me, Chip. Did you figure it out? (I went to bed and missed all the fun.) If my minimal example wouldn't work then you must have had a stray curly brace somewhere. What you want is to put the transpose command in your score block here: \new Staff

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread james bailey
2008/11/16, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Read the bloody tutorial and LM 3. Particularly the syntax of a lilypond file. Particularly^2, the a \score contains a single music expression part. - Graham Seriously, Graham, if you can't be nice and fuzzy, don't respond. (Wasn't that

slashed stems, but not beams

2008-11-16 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Lilypond-users, these days I found the great function with the slashed stems. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Special-rhythmic-concerns#Special-rhythmic-concerns Unfortunately, in the below quoted example, it does not work with the beamed notes. \version 2.11.60

Re: guitar tablature and fingering

2008-11-16 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Do you mean you want to suppress the string numbers on the regular staff? If I were you I would try making them transparent, much like you did with the beams and stems on the TabStaff. Substitute StringNumber where you put TabStaff.Beam. Jon coralline algae wrote: Although I have used

Add pitch name text all notes

2008-11-16 Thread 今井雄治
Dear users. i want to add pitch name (also octave) text all notes, like following: | || o | o | o| e4 g4 c5 i know \easyHeadsOn but, it can not be output octave. if possible rotate 90 degree pitch name. for these text for KOTO: Japanese traditional instrument.

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-16 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Neil, this seems to be at least one of the causes of the cache rebuild problem. I've always had the Automatically adjust ... box ticked, and have never experienced any problems, but then, my cache was first built

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 01:34:15PM +0100, james bailey wrote: 2008/11/16, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Read the bloody tutorial and LM 3. Particularly the syntax of a lilypond file. Seriously, Graham, if you can't be nice and fuzzy, don't respond. In general I do that. But Chip

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Graham, Would people rather get rude + accurate responses, or warm + fuzzy + not solving the problem responses? I personally would *much* rather get the former. If the initial response to his question was read the 2.11 docs about transposition and file syntax, the whole discussion would have

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 01:12:56PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Graham, If the initial response to his question was read the 2.11 docs about transposition and file syntax, the whole discussion would have been over in 2 or 3 emails. So rather than making this yet another pissing contest

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: If the initial response to his question was read the 2.11 docs about transposition and file syntax, the whole discussion would have been over in 2 or 3 emails. Please note the first lines of my initial response to Chip: For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: In defense of Jonathan, his responses *were* accurate; they were just too polite. I mean, they were accurate and looked accurate, but it invited a discussion about file syntax. We've spent about Thanks Graham. I just sent an email defending myself but it's nice to

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread chip
Amazing how this whole conversation got so blown apart. Anyway, In one other post Graham you mention you probably shouldn't have used the word 'bloody' with someone who doesn't know you, and you're probably correct. I took it as a English version of f we Americans probably would've used.

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Jonathan Kulp
chip wrote: Amazing how this whole conversation got so blown apart. That happens sometimes... melody=, song=, notes= . \relative . \score { \new Staff \melody, song, notes .whatever was above \layout {} \midi {} } My original question was about the transpose option

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:23:54PM -0700, chip wrote: Now I am looking through the 2.11 docs and searching (using my browsers Find function) for Syntax and File Syntax and finding lots of entries for Syntax but not File Syntax. Oh bloody mao, here we go again. Look here guys. I get

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread chip
Jonathan Kulp wrote: So I still don't know, is it working yet?! Heheh, sorry for mentioning, yes it is working the way I expect it to. Thankyou. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: inquiry on lilypond version 2.10.33-1

2008-11-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/16 Gil Cativo Atienza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: good evening, i just downloaded lilypond version 2.10.33-1 on my laptop computer with linux program. i want to use lilypond musical notation on my personal music project but i dont know where to start. hope you will be of assistance. Better

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread chip
Ok, I got it now, I'll read the 2.11 Learning Manual from cover to cover. My problem is I tend to skip the stuff that *apparently* doesn't apply to what I am doing - anything that has multiple stafs like grand stafs, or lyrics. And that's probably not a good thing, I know. So I'll try to be a

Re: slashed stems, but not beams

2008-11-16 Thread V!ctor Adán
Hello Stefan, A modification of this example in the LSR may be what you want: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=374 best, V!ctor Adan On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Stefan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Lilypond-users, these days I found the great function with the slashed

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-16 Thread Francisco Vila
After reading this thread, one thing is clear to me: There is a point in the development course from stable to next stable, where people should move to the current development release and forget the old one. These days too many people uses 2.10 and its old documentation. If a new user wants to

Upgrading to a newer version of lilypond

2008-11-16 Thread chip
Ok, so after all is said and done in the other thread I started, here goes another one - is there a proper upgrade path or do I just download and extract the latest version over the top of the existing version? The Application Usage document only mentions 'upgrade' in relationship to

v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread Jonathan Kulp
There is a point in the development course from stable to next stable, where people should move to the current development release and forget the old one. These days too many people uses 2.10 and its old documentation. If a new user wants to start using LilyPond, I undoubtedly send him to

Re: Upgrading to a newer version of lilypond

2008-11-16 Thread Jonathan Kulp
If you got it via the Synaptic Package Manager or Add/Remove Programs, then remove the old version the same way before trying to install the new one. Jon chip wrote: Ok, so after all is said and done in the other thread I started, here goes another one - is there a proper upgrade path or do

Re: v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Jonathan Kulp wrote: I imagine that the reason many people still start out with 2.10.33 (on Linux at least) is because 2.10.33 is the version in the repositories or is even pre-installed in the distro (e.g. Ubuntu Studio). For these cases there should perhaps be a warning about correct

Re: Upgrading to a newer version of lilypond

2008-11-16 Thread chip
Jonathan Kulp wrote: If you got it via the Synaptic Package Manager or Add/Remove Programs, then remove the old version the same way before trying to install the new one. Jon Thanks Jon, got the 'older' version uninstalled the and new version installed and made a new entry to my path so it

Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

2008-11-16 Thread chip
I just installed 2.11 and re-ran a piece that parsed fine in 2.10, and you can see a warning message in the results below - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lilypond Que Bison Te Miras - alto.ly GNU LilyPond 2.11.63 Processing `Que Bison Te Miras - alto.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music...

Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

2008-11-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 02:20:33PM -0700, chip wrote: Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... warning: Can't fit systems on page -- ignoring between-system-padding The spacing is apparently a bit tight for 1 page, but lilypond has decided that spreading it over 2 pages would look worse.

String versus scheme function

2008-11-16 Thread Johan Vromans
Hi, I can do \new Staff = FooBar ... and xxx = #(string-append Foo Bar) \new Staff = \xxx ... but not \new Staff = #(string-append Foo Bar) ... What is needed to get the last form working? -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: String versus scheme function

2008-11-16 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 16 nov. 08 à 22:50, Johan Vromans a écrit : Hi, I can do \new Staff = FooBar ... and xxx = #(string-append Foo Bar) \new Staff = \xxx ... but not \new Staff = #(string-append Foo Bar) ... What is needed to get the last form working? That would require to change the parser.

Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

2008-11-16 Thread chip
Ok, I'll ignore, even though I prefer not to see errors and warnings. Not that it matter, I'm just curious, in my code I don't adjust any of the between systems padding, so what might be causing this? Is it something in my code or just some oddity in lily? -- Chip Graham Percival wrote: On

Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

2008-11-16 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 16 nov. 08 à 23:15, chip a écrit : Ok, I'll ignore, even though I prefer not to see errors and warnings. Not that it matter, I'm just curious, in my code I don't adjust any of the between systems padding, so what might be causing this? Is it something in my code or just some oddity in

Re: v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/16 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is a point in the development course from stable to next stable, where people should move to the current development release and forget the old one. These days too many people uses 2.10 and its old documentation. If a new user wants to start

Re: Upgrading to a newer version of lilypond

2008-11-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/16 chip [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Jon, got the 'older' version uninstalled the and new version installed and made a new entry to my path so it will run from the command line. I recommend new Linux users to install as root, being the reason that it is fully automatic. As normal user, on

Squawks in compilations when compiling using 2.11.63

2008-11-16 Thread Ian Hulin
I am getting the following diagnostics when I compile a lilypond file. I still get an OK Pdf file, but how do I track down the cause in my source code? Using --verbose just seems to develop a load of noise in the log file. Does anyone have any more information on debugging this, or does a

Re: v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread David Stocker
For what it's worth, remember that as documented on this forum, you shouldn't have to uninstall 2.10 on Ubuntu Studio before you install a newer version if you install in your home directory. The 'lilypond' command calls LilyPond from the home directory before it looks for it elsewhere. After

lilypond print jobs consistently disappear to dev null

2008-11-16 Thread Federico Grau
Hello, My lilypond print jobs consistently disappear to dev null when I try to print them with a free software tool such as kpdf or gpdf?! My printer is a pretty standard laser printer, (HP Lasterjet 4 with PS support) connected via parallel cable to a CUPS server. Most of the time it works

Re: lilypond print jobs consistently disappear to dev null

2008-11-16 Thread Peter Chubb
Federico == Federico Grau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Federico Hello, My lilypond print jobs consistently disappear to dev Federico null when I try to print them with a free software tool such Federico as kpdf or gpdf?! My printer is a pretty standard laser Federico printer, (HP Lasterjet 4 with

Repeats and midi blocks

2008-11-16 Thread Ian Hulin
Why isn't the effect of \unfoldRepeats in a \midi block the default behaviour? If you're listening to a sound playback of your piece, don't you want to hear it as it would be played rather than the computer clunking along and playing all the \altenative bars one after another as now? How do I

Re: v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:03 PM, David Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, remember that as documented on this forum, you shouldn't have to uninstall 2.10 on Ubuntu Studio before you install a newer version if you install in your home directory. The 'lilypond' command calls

Re: Repeats and midi blocks

2008-11-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:50:29AM +, Ian Hulin wrote: Why isn't the effect of \unfoldRepeats in a \midi block the default behaviour? If you're listening to a sound playback of your piece, don't you want to hear it as it would be played rather than the computer clunking along and