Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Thomas Bonte
See http://www.nabble.com/Creating-a-nice-formatted-Chords-%2B-Lyrics-layout-for-guitar-players-to13829430.html#a13829430 for a working example. Keith Weintraub-3 wrote: Folks, Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords and lyrics? I don't want to

Re: musicxml2ly

2008-11-26 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello, although I have pleaded in the past to develop xml-conversion I must admit that I was not aware about the technical and legal conflicts. - -) Third, Recordare claims copyright on the typesetting of those MusicXML files, so we can't simply copy them into our build tree for testing

Re: musicxml2ly

2008-11-26 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 09:44:32AM +0100, Hajo Dezelski wrote: So the only way I see in the moment is to enhance the midi-export so that we have a chance to use the music in another context. Thats what I call a dead-end solution! The MIDI specification was defined in the 1980's and was not

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/26/08 12:05 AM, Brett Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Here's one possible solution: I'm using version 2.11.63, rather than 2.11.64, and I don't get any warnings - I don't get any output either! No pdf is generated. Rather strange. Brett Oops -- my copy

Re: musicxml2ly

2008-11-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 26. November 2008 schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: So let's not drop MusicXML support, even we don't like the legal issues around it. Okay, sorry if I confused you with legal arguments. I suppose, I have to clarify this: The MusicXML

Re: musicxml2ly

2008-11-26 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello and sorry, So let's not drop MusicXML support, even we don't like the legal issues around it. I did NOT intend to propose to drop MusicXML support. My intensions as explained in other threads are different: As a musical Dilettant I have no orchestra or band at my disposal. So I use in

creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
[Lilypond 2.11.64] Hi all, I need a centred column of (left-aligned) markups — it's a poem that I want floating in the centre of the leading page of a choral score. I know there have been a lot of changes recently, e.g. the thread http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-08/

Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
2008/11/26 Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need a centred column of (left-aligned) markups — it's a poem that I want floating in the centre of the leading page of a choral score. Is it the same thing that I had a couple of weeks ago or do you want the exact opposite behaviour?

Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread james
does this work for you: \markup { \fill-line { \left-column { \line {roses are red} \line {violets are blue} \line {honey is sweet} \line {and so is sugar} } } Am 26.11.2008 um 15:43 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: [Lilypond 2.11.64] Hi all, I

manipulating .ly with bash - echo drops \

2008-11-26 Thread Rob Canning
hello, i have generated a lilypond file and would like to be able to manipulate the file with bash scripts. first thing i would like to do is insert some additional stuff one line under the 'version 2.10 line. the script i have is below - the problem is the echo $line bit drops all the \

Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi James, does this work for you Not as an example of great poetry… ;-) but the Lilypond output is exactly what I need! Thanks, Kieren. p.s. Out of curiosity, I'd still be interested in how to accomplish this with \markuplines as opposed to \markup — anyone?

Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread EluzeW
left-aligning with a certain distance from the left border seems simple: \version 2.11.64 \markup { \hspace #35 \column { \fontsize #2 \override #'(font-family . medium) { When You Are Old and Grey } \left-align When you are old and grey and full of sleep, And nodding

Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Eluze, but now i'm suspicious you to want it really and automatically centered, isn't it?! Yes! =) Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: manipulating .ly with bash - echo drops \

2008-11-26 Thread Rob Canning
Rob Canning wrote: hello, i have generated a lilypond file and would like to be able to manipulate the file with bash scripts. first thing i would like to do is insert some additional stuff one line under the 'version 2.10 line. the script i have is below - the problem is the echo $line bit

Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread -Eluze
amazing what Lilypond achieves just with simple commands! =) http://www.nabble.com/file/p20705128/left-aligned%2Bcenter.pdf left-aligned+center.pdf Kieren MacMillan wrote: but now i'm suspicious you to want it really and automatically centered, isn't it?! Yes! =) Kieren.

Re: manipulating .ly with bash - echo drops \

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Rob Canning wrote: Rob Canning wrote: hello, i have generated a lilypond file and would like to be able to manipulate the file with bash scripts. first thing i would like to do is insert some additional stuff one line under the 'version 2.10 line. the script i have is below - the problem is

Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread james
Am 26.11.2008 um 16:42 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi James, does this work for you Not as an example of great poetry… ;-) I don't know. That poem is one of my favorites. It's full of surprise and whimsy. It's cute and clever, it gets its point across. I've read a lot of much worse

Re: manipulating .ly with bash - echo drops \

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Rob Canning wrote: first thing i would like to do is insert some additional stuff one line under the 'version 2.10 line. Ah. I overlooked this part. The script I put in the other email won't put the text in the right place like you want. I guess your dirty solution is better :) Jon --

Re: manipulating .ly with bash - echo drops \

2008-11-26 Thread Rob Canning
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Rob Canning wrote: first thing i would like to do is insert some additional stuff one line under the 'version 2.10 line. Ah. I overlooked this part. The script I put in the other email won't put the text in the right place like you want. I guess your dirty solution

Re: manipulating .ly with bash - echo drops \

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Rob Canning wrote: Jonathan Kulp wrote: Rob Canning wrote: first thing i would like to do is insert some additional stuff one line under the 'version 2.10 line. Ah. I overlooked this part. The script I put in the other email won't put the text in the right place like you want. I guess

Re: musicxml2ly

2008-11-26 Thread Daniel Hulme
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:05:46AM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Comapare it to OGG vs. MP3. From the Open Source point of view it is recommended not to use MP3 but OGG. But in the real world everyone uses MP3. You made two statements there, both of which are untrue. A few years ago there

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson
In this example, I don't see any point of using the DevNull trick to align the lyrics. It's just as easy to explicitly insert the durations directly in the lyrics, something like: \version 2.11.64 myChords = \chordmode { c1 g f c } myLyrics = \lyricmode { Hi2 there4 let's | have fun with

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Absolutely, if you only want to make nothing but chords and lyrics. However, if you want to set music, and then make an extraction containing only chords and lyrics, the Devnull trick works. Also, if you want to have multiple stanzas of lyrics, you only have to enter the durations once, and you

Problem with braces font in standalone markup

2008-11-26 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
Look at the following markup: \markup { \line { left \override #'(font-encoding . fetaBraces) \lookup #brace50 right } } The real one is much bigger, much complex, with many texts. All text must be in Times New Roman: \markup { \override #'(font-name . Times new roman) \line { left \override

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread strk
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 06:49:11PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/25 Keith Weintraub [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Folks, Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords and lyrics? I don't want to worry about the notes and just want to put word phrases

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread strk
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:57:43PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Here's one possible solution: \version 2.11.64 \new Devnull = myVoice \myMelody \new Lyrics { \lyricsto myVoice \myLyrics } I tried with 2.10.33 but doesn't work. I get the warnigns you mention, but lyrics aren't

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/26/08 2:43 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:57:43PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Here's one possible solution: \version 2.11.64 \new Devnull = myVoice \myMelody \new Lyrics { \lyricsto myVoice \myLyrics } I tried with 2.10.33 but

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread strk
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:45:54PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 11/26/08 2:43 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:57:43PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Here's one possible solution: \version 2.11.64 \new Devnull = myVoice \myMelody \new

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/26/08 2:59 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:45:54PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 11/26/08 2:43 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:57:43PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Here's one possible solution: \version

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread strk
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 03:30:31PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 11/26/08 2:59 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Confront these two: (1) http://foo.keybit.net/~strk/tmp/amadomio.pdf http://foo.keybit.net/~strk/tmp/amadomio.ly (2)

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/26/08 3:52 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks ! Too verbose for my taste but oh well... You could define your own commands (right after the \version statement): #(define ms melisma) #(define me melismaEnd) and then change your melody to % Amado mio r4 e a4. c,8 | e4.

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: The problem is that the implicit melismata generated by the ties are ignored in the Devnull context, as described in the 2.11 documentation (Notation Ref. Section 2.1.4 Specific Lyrics, subsection Lyrics independent of notes). Note: Use the 2.11 docs instead of the

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread strk
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:07:42PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: If a good way to do this arises from this thread, let's add it to the fretted-strings.itely file for future ref. It was a @TODO when I was rewriting fretted strings but it was something I didn't see the need for (I had the use

Re: Problem with braces font in standalone markup

2008-11-26 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi, 2008/11/26 sdfgsdhdshd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: \markup { \override #'(font-name . Times new roman) \line { left \override #'(font-encoding . fetaBraces) \lookup #brace50 right } } The font-name override applies to the whole \line block, so \lookup tries to pluck brace50 from Times New Roman.

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
The right way to do this is to develop a function that adds durations to lyric syllables based on a music expression (you can see the prototype in the \lyricsto c++ source code). I plan to work on this sometime in the future (probably first with scheme). I think it can solve the \lyricsto

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/26/08 4:34 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:07:42PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: If a good way to do this arises from this thread, let's add it to the fretted-strings.itely file for future ref. It was a @TODO when I was rewriting fretted strings but it

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 11/26/08 4:34 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:07:42PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: If a good way to do this arises from this thread, let's add it to the fretted-strings.itely file for future ref. It was a @TODO when I was rewriting

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Jon, If you take away the Staff from strk's example, and do it the way I had my original, you'll have just what you want. The score should contain: \new ChordNames { \myChords } \new Devnull = Melody { \myMelody } \new Lyrics { \lyricsto Melody \myMelody } Try my

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Jon, If you take away the Staff from strk's example, and do it the way I had my original, you'll have just what you want. The score should contain: \new ChordNames { \myChords } \new Devnull = Melody { \myMelody } \new Lyrics { \lyricsto Melody

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/26/08 7:15 PM, Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Jon, Yes, this works, but it only confirms my belief that someone who wants this really would be better off with a word processor or GuitarTeX. The spacing looks awful without a staff, not at all the

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Lilypond do it. Maybe we should put an example in the docs anyway, though. I suppose at the very least it would show people how to do it and it wouldn't come up on the list anymore (or we'd have a place to direct them when it did). Maybe we could do one example with a

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/26/08 8:21 PM, Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Lilypond do it. Maybe we should put an example in the docs anyway, though. I suppose at the very least it would show people how to do it and it wouldn't come up on the list anymore (or we'd have a place

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Brett Duncan
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Yes, this works, but it only confirms my belief that someone who wants this really would be better off with a word processor or GuitarTeX. The spacing looks awful without a staff, not at all the sort of thing you normally see in a songbook of this type. (If the staff is

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Brett Duncan wrote: Jonathan Kulp wrote: Yes, this works, but it only confirms my belief that someone who wants this really would be better off with a word processor or GuitarTeX. The spacing looks awful without a staff, not at all the sort of thing you normally see in a songbook of this

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/26/08 9:27 PM, Brett Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes you want this as part of a larger set of outputs, e.g. you are printing out parts for the vocalist, bass, sax AND the guitarist who just wants the lyrics and the chords (because he can't/won't read musical notation). It

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-26 Thread strk
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 07:49:44PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I took strk's example and turned it into what I think he wants by the rather crude method of making everything in the melody transparent and turning the rests into skips. This works better than devnull for preserving the