Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/7/6 Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com: Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top tip and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by Hindemith, though smaller in type, typeset by Scott, has slanting to the left. So there is some variation.

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/7/7 James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com: From: Janek Warchoł [lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com] 2011-07-06 22:21 james.l...@datacore.com wrote: Can we have some sharps and flats and perhaps some numeric signatures? There is no context for the

aleatoric squiggles

2011-07-07 Thread James Harkins
Google let me down on this one -- I'm looking for some advice on notating aleatoric materials. The piece is for the Chinese instrument sheng and live electronics (computer running SuperCollider). Many of the computer materials will start at a specific point in the score, but the exact notes and

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/7/7 Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com: On 7 Jul 2011, at 08:14, Janek Warchoł wrote: Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top tip and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by Hindemith, though smaller in type, typeset by Scott, has

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Hans Aberg
On 7 Jul 2011, at 08:14, Janek Warchoł wrote: Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top tip and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by Hindemith, though smaller in type, typeset by Scott, has slanting to the left. So there is some

Re: aleatoric squiggles

2011-07-07 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
Karim Barkati karimbark...@gmail.com is currently typesetting a score not unlike this for viola electronics. I'm ccing him to this e-mail: his approach also uses glissandi and looks really nice. For the arrow: \relative c' {\override Glissando #'bound-details #'right #'arrow = ##t c1

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Thu 07 Jul 2011, 10:16 Janek Warchoł wrote: I guess our G-clef is curved partly to distinguish itself from other software' clefs. Default Finale clef has very straight vertical line for example. I would rather not take into account other software' clefs.. (Probably, I simply do not like

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Hans Aberg
On 7 Jul 2011, at 10:16, Janek Warchoł wrote: Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top tip and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by Hindemith, though smaller in type, typeset by Scott, has slanting to the left. So there is some

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Xavier Scheuer
2011/7/7 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com: I guess our G-clef is curved partly to distinguish itself from other software' clefs.  Default Finale clef has very straight vertical line for example. Maybe I’ve missed some discussions, but what’s the purpose of this survey ? Do you

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best? The first. IMHO, the other two are too small or should be used for special situations only, like tight full scores. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com writes: At another place in Edition Peters, there is a slant to the right - these are hand drawn, I think. More likely hand-engraved. Of course an engraver can tilt the type before committing to the hammer. -- David Kastrup

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/7/7 Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org: Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best? The first.  IMHO, the other two are too small or should be used for special situations only, like tight full scores. I've looked on IMSLP and many scores use clefs smaller than left one, not only

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
The first.  IMHO, the other two are too small or should be used for special situations only, like tight full scores. I've looked on IMSLP and many scores use clefs smaller than left one, not only when staves are crowded. Yes, especially non-German editions use very small clefs. It's a

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2011 11:37, schrieb Xavier Scheuer: 2011/7/7 Janek Warchołlemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com: I guess our G-clef is curved partly to distinguish itself from other software' clefs. Default Finale clef has very straight vertical line for example. Maybe I’ve missed some discussions, but

RE: Cues + ties/LV

2011-07-07 Thread James Lowe
Hello, )-Original Message- )From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org )[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On )Behalf Of James Harkins )Sent: 07 July 2011 04:43 )To: lily-users )Subject: Cues + ties/LV ) )Was just playing around with cues, and

RE: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow

2011-07-07 Thread James Lowe
Hello --- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Marc Mouries Sent: 07 July 2011 03:36 To: lilypond-user Subject: Re: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow What exactly does 'keep

Page number offset and placement

2011-07-07 Thread Hilary Snaden
Is it possible to (1) allow the page-turn-breaker to behave normally but, if the first page number is 2, decrement all of the printed page numbers by 1, (2) place the odd page numbers in the top left corner of a page and the even numbers in the top right corner? This is for a case where a part

Re: aleatoric squiggles

2011-07-07 Thread James Harkins
At Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:21:01 +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Karim Barkati karimbark...@gmail.com is currently typesetting a score not unlike this for viola electronics. I'm ccing him to this e-mail: his approach also uses glissandi and looks really nice. For the arrow: \relative

Re: aleatoric squiggles

2011-07-07 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:16 PM, James Harkins wrote: At Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:21:01 +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Karim Barkati karimbark...@gmail.com is currently typesetting a score not unlike this for viola electronics. I'm ccing him to this e-mail: his approach also uses glissandi

Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores

2011-07-07 Thread couch...@gmail.com
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I've been having a heck of a time finding previous threads that go into any depth. I see one from 2008 (revived in 2010) that references a part of the Learning Manual that seems to have moved from section 5 but doesn't really contain all that much

Re: Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores

2011-07-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello Andrew, What is frustrating to me is that doing something that seems to be standard in music notation (such as writing multiple parts) takes so much manual effort and so many hacks to look good. And there is much more documentation for strange things (like printing notes with colored

Re: Page number offset and placement

2011-07-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Hilary, Is it possible to (1) allow the page-turn-breaker to behave normally but, if the first page number is 2, decrement all of the printed page numbers by 1, (2) place the odd page numbers in the top left corner of a page and the even numbers in the top right corner? This is for a

Re: Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores

2011-07-07 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I've been having a heck of a time finding previous threads that go into any depth. I see one from 2008 (revived in 2010) that references a part of the Learning Manual that seems to have moved from section 5 but doesn't really contain all

Re: Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores

2011-07-07 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2011, 15:25:43 schrieb couch...@gmail.com: I would like to set a large piece with multiple parts, with the option of producing single-part scores (e.g. an orchestral piece). I have found that very quickly my source files get out of control. What are the best practices

Re: Polymetric music and page breaks

2011-07-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 5 July 2011 23:34, Andrea La Rose andrea.lar...@gmail.com wrote: This snippet seems to do the trick: global = { \repeat unfold 3 { \time 4/4 \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f { s1*4 } \bar \break { s1*4 } The override of the stencil removes the extra time signatures;

Re: Page number offset and placement

2011-07-07 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2011, 16:06:17 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Hilary, Is it possible to (1) allow the page-turn-breaker to behave normally but, if the first page number is 2, decrement all of the printed page numbers by 1, (2) place the odd page numbers in the top left corner of a

Re: fret diagrams for scales and arpeggios - finger numbers as intervals

2011-07-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 7 July 2011 04:36, Jay Lee jkl...@mac.com wrote: Anybody? Or is it really not possible? The easiest method is to define the markup first, then insert it into the verbose list: flatSeven = \markup { \concat { \flat 7 } } \markup { \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ((finger-code .

Re: Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores

2011-07-07 Thread Ralph Palmer
A lot of this is beyond me, Andrew, but : On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:25 AM, couch...@gmail.com couch...@gmail.comwrote: - Short lived divisi - is there a better method than using on every note? What about a passage with rhythmic differences? Must this be separated into yet another part?

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/7/7 Bill Mooney mooney...@aim.com: Greetings all, I prefer 2 or 3 before 1. Putting them in context - see the attached files, where I have superimposed pairs to show the differences as precisely as I could. Good idea, thanks! Janek ___

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/7/7 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com: Maybe I’ve missed some discussions, nope :) but what’s the purpose of this survey ?  Do you plan to modify LilyPond’s G-clef ? Yes. It's been irking me since i began using Lily; I don't like it for similar reasons as some of you (see attachment).

RE: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread James Lowe
Hello, From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Janek Warchoł [lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 July 2011 22:09 To: Xavier Scheuer Cc: lilypond-user Subject:

Can't get \RemoveEmptyStaffContext and \RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext to work together

2011-07-07 Thread Brett McCoy
I have an orchestral score and I am trying to suppress empty staves from printing in systems, using \RemoveEmptyStaffContext and \RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext. Going by a previous thread I found, I have tried this: \layout { \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext } } \layout {

Re: Can't get \RemoveEmptyStaffContext and \RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext to work together

2011-07-07 Thread Brett McCoy
Sorry email got sent before I finished! I meant to say: I tried this: \layout { \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext } } \layout { \context { \RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext } } and I tried \layout { \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }

Re: Can't get \RemoveEmptyStaffContext and \RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext to work together

2011-07-07 Thread Brett McCoy
Interesting... I changed my percussion staff to a drum staff and then used \RemoveEmptyDrumStaffContext and it worked correctly. *shrug* On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry email got sent before I finished! I meant to say: I tried this: \layout {

Re: Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores

2011-07-07 Thread James Harkins
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:25:43 -0400 From: couch...@gmail.com couch...@gmail.com Subject: Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores I'm also relatively new to ly so I don't have detailed answers. I am specifically looking for advice on the following subjects: - Time, key, and tempo changes

Re: aleatoric squiggles

2011-07-07 Thread James Harkins
At Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:20:15 +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Not bad, though the glisses don't always join exactly. I won't be too fussy at this stage. That's odd...they should. Could you send an example of them not joining up? Add this to your example and you'll see it. \override

Re: fret diagrams for scales and arpeggios - finger numbers as intervals

2011-07-07 Thread Jay Lee
Neil Puttock n.puttock at gmail.com writes: snip The easiest method is to define the markup first, then insert it into the verbose list: flatSeven = \markup { \concat { \flat 7 } } \markup { \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ((finger-code . in-dot))) \fret-diagram-verbose

Re: fret diagrams for scales and arpeggios - finger numbers as intervals

2011-07-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/7/11 10:21 PM, Jay Lee jkl...@mac.com wrote: Neil Puttock n.puttock at gmail.com writes: snip The easiest method is to define the markup first, then insert it into the verbose list: flatSeven = \markup { \concat { \flat 7 } } \markup { \override #'(fret-diagram-details .

Re: fret diagrams for scales and arpeggios - finger numbers as intervals

2011-07-07 Thread Jay Lee
Jay Lee jkllee at mac.com writes: snip #'( (place-fret 4 1 5) (place-fret 3 4 ,flatThree) (place-fret 2 4 5) (place-fret 1 4 R)

Re: Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores

2011-07-07 Thread Keith OHara
couchand at gmail.com couchand at gmail.com writes: I would like to set a large piece with multiple parts, with the option of producing single-part scores (e.g. an orchestral piece). I have found that very quickly my source files get out of control. 1) http://www.mutopiaproject.org/

Re: Best Practices for Multiple Part Scores

2011-07-07 Thread Keith OHara
Keith OHara k-ohara5a5a at oco.net writes: file: horns.ly [...] \score { \keepWithTag#'part \new Staff \horns_mvt_I \commonConductor_mvt_I } \score { \keepWithTag#'part \new Staff \horns_mvt_II \commonConductor_mvt_II I had