Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: Let me try to rephrase things: the more functionality is moved into the Scheme layers, the less people you can find who are capable of working on it. For me, the complexity of LilyPond itself outplays learning a new programming language by far. Moreover, learning

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: Let me try to rephrase things: the more functionality is moved into the Scheme layers, the less people you can find who are capable of working on it. For me, the complexity of LilyPond itself outplays learning a new

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/6/1 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org: For me, the complexity of LilyPond itself outplays learning a new programming language by far. In other words, saying Who's going to learn LilyPond? Nobody will! is more or less the same as saying Who is going to learn Scheme to contribute to

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2012/6/1 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org: For me, the complexity of LilyPond itself outplays learning a new programming language by far. In other words, saying Who's going to learn LilyPond? Nobody will! is more or less the same as saying Who

Re: how to underline or italic a single word in lyric?

2012-06-01 Thread Jakub Pavlík
2012/6/1 i...@soundand.com ** Hi- please direct me to.. I can't find how to underline a single word in the lyrics I'd settle for italic if that's the only possibility but I couldn't find either in manual or repository. using stable version thanks jay Maybe one more hint may

Re: how to underline or italic a single word in lyric?

2012-06-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jay (et al.), Sorry but it's not in the v2.14 pdf manual. That may be true (I haven't checked), but it's definitely in the HTML version: I just checked: the snippet explicitly showing how to use \markup in lyrics *is* in the v2.14 PDF manual. So now the question isn't how to synchronize

Re: position of footer

2012-06-01 Thread Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger
Am 31.5.2012 um 17:26 schrieb -Eluze: I think you are filling the columns with empty lines - better (and easier) would be to define a markup item for each case you have (middle pages and last page): oddFooterMarkup = \markup \fill-line { %% Fuß alle Seiten außer erste und letzte

Workflow/Toolchain for final final touches

2012-06-01 Thread Nils
Hello, a few days ago two deals with my publisher were called off. Including anger, insults (on his part) and the promise to never work together again. Mainly the cause were disagreements how a good score looks. You may remember a few strange questions from me on this list in the last weeks

Re: Workflow/Toolchain for final final touches

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Nils l...@nilsgey.de writes: When converted to pdf (or ps? or svg?) can I load the whole score in Inkscape (I don't think so, I have tried it) or some other postscript or vector editor so that I can do this kind of stuff? I think that people were able to work on SVG for postediting. Working

Re: Workflow/Toolchain for final final touches

2012-06-01 Thread Klaus Föhl
When converted to pdf (or ps? or svg?) can I load the whole score in Inkscape (I don't think so, I have tried it) or some other postscript or vector editor so that I can do this kind of stuff? Hello Nils, While I have only started to explore with a mini example, I have been using pdf2svg to

Re: besideCN seems to have stopped working

2012-06-01 Thread Robin Bannister
Gerry Prosser wrote: Removing the dollars certainly seems to work - thank you! Hopefully someone cleverer than us will be along shortly to explain why ... It was David Kastrup's work which makes it possible to remove the dollars. And please note that any dollars you remove should of course

Re: position of footer

2012-06-01 Thread -Eluze
Kai-48 wrote: Am 31.5.2012 um 17:26 schrieb -Eluze: But now the middle page footers are not centered even though they are in a \fill-line and \center-column environment. To show, what I mean, I attached the PDF. Since I did nothing but rearrange the code in the manner you suggested,

Re: Workflow/Toolchain for final final touches

2012-06-01 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2012-06-01 um 16:33 schrieb Nils: When converted to pdf (or ps? or svg?) can I load the whole score in Inkscape (I don't think so, I have tried it) or some other postscript or vector editor so that I can do this kind of stuff? You can do some corrections in PDF using Acrobat Pro or

Re: positioning of fret diagram

2012-06-01 Thread -Eluze
dam1en wrote: I would like to align the fret diagram to the center of the page.but I need your help to do this : welcome to LilyPond! I think this will do: \markup \override #'(size . 6.75) \fill-line { \fret-diagram-terse #'o 1 3;o 2 3;o 2 3;o 2 ;o 1 3;o 1 3; } cheers

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, Who is going to learn reading notes, let alone writing them? Of course LilyPond is only for geeks, because it is just geeks who bother with writing music rather than listening to it. In other words, composers who use Lilypond are a [very, very small] subset of a [very small]

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Roberts
Kieren MacMillan wrote: Who is going to learn reading notes, let alone writing them? Of course LilyPond is only for geeks, because it is just geeks who bother with writing music rather than listening to it. In other words, composers who use Lilypond are a [very, very small] subset of a

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi David, Who is going to learn reading notes, let alone writing them? Of course LilyPond is only for geeks, because it is just geeks who bother with writing music rather than listening to it. In other words, composers who use

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Jeff Barnes
From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca Hi David, Who is going to learn reading notes, let alone writing them?  Of course LilyPond is only for geeks, because it is just geeks who bother with writing music rather than listening to it. In other words, composers who use Lilypond

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Nils
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:02:02 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi David, Who is going to learn reading notes, let alone writing them? Of course LilyPond is only for geeks, because it is just geeks who bother with writing

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Tim Roberts t...@probo.com writes: Kieren MacMillan wrote: Who is going to learn reading notes, let alone writing them? Of course LilyPond is only for geeks, because it is just geeks who bother with writing music rather than listening to it. In other words, composers who use Lilypond are a

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Nils (et al.), Authors may write in Microsoft Word and Comic Sans, they can give it to their publisher who then can use whatever they need, with a pro-grade typographer person, to create the real deal. The content stays, the format gets better. Similar situation with music notation.

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Jeff Barnes jbarnes...@yahoo.com wrote: It sounds like it would be quite valuable to know the commonalities of this very very small very small group for positioning Lily and for future development direction. Have you read my articles in The LilyPond Report

dashed initial barline with SystemStartBar?

2012-06-01 Thread diekunstderfuge
Hi all, I would like the barline printed by System_start_delimiter_engraver using SystemStartBar to print as a dashed barline instead of a solid barline. I've looked at the Internals reference for 2.14 ( http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/internals/systemstartbar

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:18:58 +0200 From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Appreciation / Financial support Message-ID: 87bol3osql@fencepost.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Tim Roberts t...@probo.com writes:

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Francisco Vila writes: 2012/6/1 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org: For me, the complexity of LilyPond itself outplays learning a new programming language by far. In other words, saying Who's going to learn LilyPond? Nobody will! is more or less the same as saying Who is going to learn

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com writes: You should have a look at the website for Ardour if you haven't already.  Paul has a little bar that fills up toward a monthly total, and has an easy donation method that is highly visible.  You might also want to get in touch with him to get some

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:19 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Anyway, I am _one_ developer of several, and it would be inappropriate to turn the LilyPond website into a personal payment collector for myself.  And Paul Davis runs a decidedly larger part (and also has larger

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:05:02PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: David's right. However, i think it would be ok to add a monthly donations progress bar on the sponsoring subpage (http://www.lilypond.org/sponsoring.html), under David's name. What do you think? To me this would be more like

Re: Multiple tensions in Chord Mode

2012-06-01 Thread Louis Guillaume
On 5/28/12 6:38 PM, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 09:48:29AM -0400, Louis Guillaume wrote: There is, however, one thing that I find impossible, that is, having two of the same tension in the chord symbol expression. There is a single case I can think of and that is

Re: how to underline or italic a single word in lyric?

2012-06-01 Thread Nick Payne
On 01/06/12 23:35, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Jay (et al.), Sorry but it's not in the v2.14 pdf manual. That may be true (I haven't checked), but it's definitely in the HTML version: I just checked: the snippet explicitly showing how to use \markup in lyrics *is* in the v2.14 PDF manual. So

Re: Multiple tensions in Chord Mode

2012-06-01 Thread Jeff Barnes
From: Louis Guillaume If I may start with a bit of humble philosophy, when I see a flat 9 especially, I almost always conclude that the tonality will include a sharp 9 as well, simply because of the dissonance that would result from having the flat 9 competing against an unaltered

Autochange snippet broken?

2012-06-01 Thread Valentin Villenave
Hi everybody, (lots of awesome talks on -user these days!) I'm wondering what has gone wrong with this: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=724 a.k.a. Autochange with a different pitch (for the search engine's sake). It used to work with 2.15.30 or so, but with 2.15.39 it doesn't work anymore.

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 115, Issue 5

2012-06-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:19:47 +0200 From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Appreciation / Financial support Message-ID: 87pq9izsws@fencepost.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com writes:

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/6/1 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: And lilynet is a good place for experimental / unofficial stuff. Well, http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/Special:RecentChanges There are four main links in http://lilynet.net . The frog forum does not exist as linked there. The wiki... you

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 115, Issue 5

2012-06-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 22:20:40 +0100 From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: Janek Warcho? janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Cc: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org, lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Appreciation / Financial support Message-ID: 20120601212040.GA24998@gperciva-desktop

Re:Appreciation / Financial support (David Kastrup)

2012-06-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:47:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 115, Issue 5 Message-ID:     1338590874.40885.yahoomail...@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type:

Re: Lilypond to xml -singing voice festival

2012-06-01 Thread fresco
fresco wrote: David Kastrup wrote: fresco tuxs...@googlemail.com writes: But when I try to insert: \include festival.ly #(set! song:*debug* #f) \festival #bach-präl.xml { \tempo 4 = 100 } into another file (see text below), I get error messages like:

Re: dashed initial barline with SystemStartBar?

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi, 2012/6/1 diekunstderfuge dolcevitafinea...@gmail.com: Hi all, I would like the barline printed by System_start_delimiter_engraver using SystemStartBar to print as a dashed barline instead of a solid barline. it seems that the only available style is 'bar-line. But you can override the

Re: dashed initial barline with SystemStartBar?

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/6/2 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: (...) Hi again, my suggestion in the previous mail will cause an error in some cases. Please replace `dashedStart' with the following revised definition: dashedStart = \override Score.SystemStartBar #'stencil = #(lambda (grob) (if

Re: Multiple tensions in Chord Mode

2012-06-01 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jun 1, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Jeff Barnes jbarnes...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Louis Guillaume If I may start with a bit of humble philosophy, when I see a flat 9 especially, I almost always conclude that the tonality will include a sharp 9 as well, simply because of the dissonance

Re: Lilypond to xml -singing voice festival

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
fresco tuxs...@googlemail.com writes: fresco wrote: David Kastrup wrote: fresco tuxs...@googlemail.com writes: But when I try to insert: \include festival.ly #(set! song:*debug* #f) \festival #bach-präl.xml { \tempo 4 = 100 } into another file (see text below), I get error

Re: Autochange snippet broken?

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: Hi everybody, (lots of awesome talks on -user these days!) I'm wondering what has gone wrong with this: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=724 a.k.a. Autochange with a different pitch (for the search engine's sake). It used to work with

Re: Autochange snippet broken?

2012-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: Hi everybody, (lots of awesome talks on -user these days!) I'm wondering what has gone wrong with this: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=724 a.k.a. Autochange with a different pitch (for the search