lilypond 2.16.2 soon in Debian?

2013-04-24 Thread Federico Bruni
Speaking about LilyPond on Linux... yesterday I've seen that version 2.16 is still in debian experimental: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lilypond The next Debian stable, which is going to be released in a few days, will have 2.14 again. Hopefully 2.16 will be added to backports in

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013-04-24 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
David Kastrup writes: Ask Wilbert about the LyBoek project... Is that a work title? Yes. The official title is Liedboek, as in URL:http://www.liedboek.nl/ Indeed. An exposition of the project logistics would be interesting, yes. Yes, there are plans for a writeup of the project. Jan

Re: lilypond 2.16.2 soon in Debian?

2013-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com writes: Speaking about LilyPond on Linux... yesterday I've seen that version 2.16 is still in debian experimental: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lilypond The next Debian stable, which is going to be released in a few days, will have 2.14

Re: lilypond 2.16.2 soon in Debian?

2013-04-24 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/4/24 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org The next Debian stable, which is going to be released in a few days, will have 2.14 again. Again? Current Debian stable has 2.12.3. So we are making progress. yes, you are right however, having 2.16 would be a better progress lilypond is not in the

Re: How to get dynamics centred on a piano staff?

2013-04-24 Thread Peter Toye
Helge, Sorry - yes. My email client appended the whole message. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 6:37:16 AM, you wrote: I reply inline... 2013/4/23 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com Thanks Urs and all others who

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-24 Thread Klaus Föhl
Vaughan McAlley writes: (As an aside, I’ve lately been learning Tex by publishing my mother’s autobiography. The book should look great. If I want to create a version for e-readers, it looks like I have to get to ePub via HTML format. It seems a shame, because the Tex source probably contains

\shape question

2013-04-24 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, just a quick (and urgent) question: \shape Slur #'((0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) should be correct syntax? Or am I blind? At least LilyPond 2.17.16 hits me error: wrong type for argument 2. Expecting symbol list or music, found ((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0)) \shape Slur

Re: \shape question

2013-04-24 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs, the order of the arguments changed in 2.17: \shape #'((0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) Slur should work. The second argument now also may be music, so that you can use in a tweak fashion: c-\shape #'((0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) ( d) HTH best, Jan-Peter Am 24.04.2013 10:57, schrieb

Re: \shape question

2013-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Hi all, just a quick (and urgent) question: \shape Slur #'((0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) should be correct syntax? Or am I blind? At least LilyPond 2.17.16 hits me error: wrong type for argument 2. Expecting symbol list or music, found ((0 . 0)

Re: \shape question

2013-04-24 Thread Urs Liska
Am Mittwoch, den 24.04.2013, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hi Urs, the order of the arguments changed in 2.17: \shape #'((0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) Slur should work. The second argument now also may be music, so that you can use in a tweak fashion: c-\shape #'((0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 .

Re: \shape question

2013-04-24 Thread Urs Liska
Am Mittwoch, den 24.04.2013, 11:05 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Hi all, just a quick (and urgent) question: \shape Slur #'((0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) should be correct syntax? Or am I blind? At least LilyPond 2.17.16 hits me

Re: \shape question

2013-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am Mittwoch, den 24.04.2013, 11:05 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Hi all, just a quick (and urgent) question: \shape Slur #'((0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)(0 . 0)) should be correct syntax? Or am I blind? At

Re: Alignment problem with instrument name

2013-04-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, As a newbie I'm a bit surprised that Lilypond doesn't do that automatically. 1. It places the left edge of the music automatically. When you think about it, this makes far more sense than having the left edge placed according to the width of the instrument names (and thus

Re: Extension:Score

2013-04-24 Thread Klaus Föhl
Carlo Stemberger schrieb: Il 23/04/2013 17:49, Klaus Föhl ha scritto: Hello, Just snooping around and discovering that this markup: score\relative c' { f d f a d f e d cis a cis e a g f e }/score now [works on|has been enabled for] mediawiki i.e. en.wikipedia.org Commands like

Off-topics : vibrato

2013-04-24 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi List, Does anyone know a modern notation to indicate a vibrato ? Thanks, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Off-topics : vibrato

2013-04-24 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 24 avr. 2013, at 16:31, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, Does anyone know a modern notation to indicate a vibrato ? Thanks, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Off-topics : vibrato

2013-04-24 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Thanks Mike, looks interesting. Do you think that this notation is often used by modern composers ? Have you seen it elsewhere ? 2013/4/24 m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org On 24 avr. 2013, at 16:31, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, Does

Re: Off-topics : vibrato

2013-04-24 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Pierre, On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mike, looks interesting. Do you think that this notation is often used by modern composers ? Have you seen it elsewhere ? Graphic notations of vibrato are fairly common. A

Possible additional signs

2013-04-24 Thread Peter Toye
I find that the Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme signs as used by Schönberg can be useful. They can save time in rehearsal letting players know who should be on top. Any chance of getting them put into Lilypond? Regards, Peter Toye mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com

Re: Possible additional signs

2013-04-24 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Peter, On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com wrote: I find that the Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme signs as used by Schönberg can be useful. They can save time in rehearsal letting players know who should be on top. Any chance of getting them put into Lilypond?

Re: Off-topics : vibrato

2013-04-24 Thread Owain Sutton
Another common option is simply indicating 'vib.', 'senza vib.', 'molto vib.' etc. On 09:07, Wed 24 Apr 2013, David Nalesnik wrote: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:07:51 -0500 From: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Off-topics : vibrato To: Pierre Perol-Schneider

Re: Possible additional signs

2013-04-24 Thread Peter Toye
David, Thanks. I'd not discovered that yet. But I've only been using Lilypond for about a week. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 3:26:21 PM, you wrote: Hi Peter, On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Peter Toye

Re: Extension:Score

2013-04-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/4/24 Klaus Föhl klaus.fo...@uni-giessen.de: Carlo Stemberger schrieb: Il 23/04/2013 17:49, Klaus Föhl ha scritto: Hello, Just snooping around and discovering that this markup: score\relative c' { f d f a d f e d cis a cis e a g f e }/score now [works on|has been enabled

Re: Off-topics : vibrato

2013-04-24 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 04/24/2013 04:36 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: Another common option is simply indicating 'vib.', 'senza vib.', 'molto vib.' Depends how precise a visual indicator you want to have of the type of vibrato, particularly with respect to precise indication of the 'vertical' extent (i.e. the range of

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/4/24 Vaughan McAlley vaug...@mcalley.net.au: (As an aside, I’ve lately been learning Tex by publishing my mother’s autobiography. The book should look great. If I want to create a version for e-readers, it looks like I have to get to ePub via HTML format. It seems a shame, because the Tex

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/4/24 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com: It seems a shame, because the Tex source probably contains all the information one would need to produce a nice e-book) Maybe this http://www.latex2html.org/ can help, if you can customise it for your needs. Also google for latex to epub and

Re: Alignment problem with instrument name

2013-04-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Wim van Dommelen Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: Re: Alignment problem with instrument name Thanks. As a newbie I'm a bit surprised that Lilypond doesn't do that automatically. But at least I've got a

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-24 Thread Andrew Bernard
Call me old-fashioned or antique, but despite their ubiquity, iPads and Kindles are just too small to read music from at any proper distance. There is a reason music scores are on large paper - readability. When iPads get to 235 x 310 mm screens (Klavierformat piano score paper size) then

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: Call me old-fashioned or antique, but despite their ubiquity, iPads and Kindles are just too small to read music from at any proper distance. There is a reason music scores are on large paper - readability. When iPads get to 235 x 310 mm screens

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-24 Thread Carl Peterson
In landscape orientation, the width of the iPad screen is about 7.75 inches (don't have one personally, but using the Pythagorean theorem on a 9.7 diagonal), which is about a quarter-inch wider than a line of a US-Letter size printing with 1/2 inch margins (7.5 line length, about 190 mm). So you

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-24 Thread Andrew Bernard
Again, maybe I am out of date but I need to see a full page of music, and even a full two page spread to see what's coming up and what's gone past when playing, not two or three systems, so that I have a wide musical context. And US Letter is still narrow. But then again, to show I am not

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-24 Thread Andrew Bernard
And, you can't easily markup the score with a pencil... I don't think Avid Scorch supports annotations as yet, either. This is relevant to lilypond discussions, as having lilypond target fine printed output is going to be valid for a very long time to come, I reckon. Andrew On 24/04/13 3:11

Re: Off-topics : vibrato

2013-04-24 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 24 avr. 2013, at 15:58, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mike, looks interesting. Do you think that this notation is often used by modern composers ? Have you seen it elsewhere ? 2013/4/24 m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org On 24 avr.

Two's company : three's the result

2013-04-24 Thread Roman Stawski
Hi folks I've just comme across this in 2.17.11 --- \version 2.17.11 \paper { ragged-right = ##t } { \new PianoStaff \new Staff \relative c'' { a1 } \new Staff \relative c' { f1 } \break \new PianoStaff \new Staff \relative c'' { b1 } \new Staff

Re: Two's company : three's the result

2013-04-24 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/4/24 Roman Stawski ro...@stawski.fr Hi folks I've just comme across this in 2.17.11 --- \version 2.17.11 \paper { ragged-right = ##t } { \new PianoStaff \new Staff \relative c'' { a1 } \new Staff \relative c' { f1 } \break \new PianoStaff

Re: Two's company : three's the result

2013-04-24 Thread Roman Stawski
On 24/04/2013 21:03, Federico Bruni wrote: You can find an explanation here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/usage/common-errors#an-extra-staff-appears Thanks Federico, I wasn't aware of this one. I appreciate the pointer. the right input is: \version 2.17.11 \paper {

convert-ly rule for \stringTuning

2013-04-24 Thread Federico Bruni
I've just happened to update an old score from 2.13.x to latest version 2.17.7 The following custom tuning: \set TabStaff.stringTunings = #'(2 -3 -5 -8 -13 -20) has been converted to: \set TabStaff.stringTunings = #`(,(ly:make-pitch 0 1 NATURAL) ,(ly:make-pitch -1 5 NATURAL) ,(ly:make-pitch

Re: lilypond 2.16.2 soon in Debian?

2013-04-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013, Federico Bruni wrote: The next Debian stable, which is going to be released in a few days, will have 2.14 again. Hopefully 2.16 will be added to backports in the next future. But it's in experimental since september: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lilypond.html I

Vertically aligning markups with one another

2013-04-24 Thread Oscar Dub
Hi everyone, I've come to a problem I don't know how to fix involving the way that markups are aligned to one another. I think there might be some scheme hacking involved in getting the result I need, although potentially there might be an override which I've overlooked that would do the same

Re: Off-topics : vibrato

2013-04-24 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Thanks much to all of you for your detailed replies. Cheers, Pierre 2013/4/24 m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org On 24 avr. 2013, at 15:58, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mike, looks interesting. Do you think that this notation is often used

Lobbying paper follow-up

2013-04-24 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, trying to catch up on all the stuff written lately. Obviously I somewhat lack the overview, so I try to do my best to do everybody justice (knowing it won't work out ...) ### Structure/Outline of the paper Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 10:09 -0400 schrieb Carl Peterson:

Re: Vertically aligning markups with one another

2013-04-24 Thread Andrew Bernard
Because you have changed the number of lines in the staff the text won't line up. If you added something like \once \override TextScript #'Y-offset = #-4.15 before the markup for 'five' this would align it to the baseline of the surrounding text markup. Or you could put this sort of