Hi,
recently I wrote that LilyPond input files - being plain text - are a
quite natural choice for single-source or cross-media publishing.
However, I'm not so sure anymore that this is really true (yet).
When finishing a LilyPond score to publication quality there is quite a
lot of tweaking
Urs Liska m...@ursliska.de writes:
Hi,
recently I wrote that LilyPond input files - being plain text - are a
quite natural choice for single-source or cross-media publishing.
However, I'm not so sure anymore that this is really true (yet).
When finishing a LilyPond score to publication
David Kastrup writes:
Sure. For that reason, I consider much of the time spent on tweaking
and tweaking tools a waste of lifetime better spent on trying to get the
automatisms right. Of course, that option is harder and requires
different resources. But it only needs to be done once.
Yes,
Am 26.11.2013 11:31, schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen:
We used to have an experimental `tweak editor' that would store tweaks a
in a separate tweaks file. In some way it would be a nice intermediate
to put all manual tweaks in a separate file and merge them with the
actual source. It would be good to
Two observations:
1. The “\set associatedVoice” needs to before the syllable PRIOR to the one
you actually want to “switch” to the new voice — one of my least favourite
things in Lilypond.
2. The X-offset tweak is to avoid the weird shift of the text (to match the
shift of the note in
Hello all,
I am used to this topic. And I made up my own tool, which is working for
me, but should be called experimental.
I always hesitate to post my github link, because its not well
formed/documented and a mixup of totally different things ...
but there is one engraver, which actually deals
2013/11/26 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
A way to permanently separate music source from tweaks would be a good
thing IMO. Separating content from appearance.
If that would be possible one could switch a set of tweaks (i.e. different
target formats) together with the different layout style
On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 11:35 +0100, Urs Liska wrote:
Am 26.11.2013 11:31, schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen:
We used to have an experimental `tweak editor' that would store tweaks a
in a separate tweaks file. In some way it would be a nice intermediate
to put all manual tweaks in a separate file
Dear LilyPonders,
In about two weeks' time, SCORA will make its premiere with the Leuven
Alumni Orchestra (Leuven, BE). Dates are 14 December (20:15) and 15
December (15:00)
SCORA is a synchronised system for letting orchestra's play from
displays/tablets. The rendering is based on
Am 26.11.2013 11:31, schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen:
Sure. For that reason, I consider much of the time spent on tweaking
and tweaking tools a waste of lifetime better spent on trying to get the
automatisms right. Of course, that option is harder and requires
different resources. But it only
Hello,
Nice. I'm not sure I can be present, but it's anyway a interesting project.
Regarding Rachmaninov, his work will enter public domain in Belgium (and most
of European countries) in a few weeks, the January 1st following the 70th
anniversary of his death.
Philippe
Le 26 nov. 2013 à
Philippe Massart phili...@philmassart.net writes:
Hello,
Nice. I'm not sure I can be present, but it's anyway a interesting project.
Regarding Rachmaninov, his work will enter public domain in Belgium
(and most of European countries) in a few weeks, the January 1st
following the 70th
Am 26.11.2013 14:12, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
Am 26.11.2013 11:31, schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen:
Sure. For that reason, I consider much of the time spent on tweaking
and tweaking tools a waste of lifetime better spent on trying to get the
automatisms right. Of course, that option is harder and
Hi all,
we should also work on good interfaces for
tweaking the engraving *and* on interfaces to separate content and
design. In my former answer to Urs' post, I talked about the engraver I
use. Here's the idea behind it again:
- I have my music stored, to recall it when I actually engrave
On 11/26/13 6:12 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote:
In my former answer to Urs' post, I talked about the engraver I
use. Here's the idea behind it again:
- I have my music stored, to recall it when I actually engrave it.
- I want to be able to say: Modify item x in measure n on moment
Am 26.11.2013 14:41, schrieb Carl Sorensen:
It's more complex than having a single file that can be correctly
processed by lilypond, but it's doable with today's tools.
Do you have actual experience how this setup behaves when you have to
update the content?
Having the branches like you do
Am 26.11.2013 14:28, schrieb Urs Liska:
In what way do you consider it experimental?
I don't like the current way of addressing the contexts. I still have to
first look in the created *.edition.log file, to see, under which path
the context is addressed. This is OK for me, but I don't know, how
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes:
On 11/26/13 6:12 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote:
In my former answer to Urs' post, I talked about the engraver I
use. Here's the idea behind it again:
- I have my music stored, to recall it when I actually engrave it.
- I want to be able to
Am 26.11.2013 14:41, schrieb Carl Sorensen:
In my former answer to Urs' post, I talked about the engraver I
use. Here's the idea behind it again:
- I have my music stored, to recall it when I actually engrave it.
- I want to be able to say: Modify item x in measure n on moment m with
Am 26.11.2013 15:04, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
and right docs sooon
I meant write docs soon ...
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Hi Jan-Peter (et al.),
Most times I was able to use (once) override or set, which are
supported. Also supported are break and pageBreak. But if one wants to
edit one notehead (or Accidental) of a chord, it seems not possible
right now. I probably will introduce an interface for that kind of
On 26/11/13 11:01, David Kastrup wrote:
Sure. For that reason, I consider much of the time spent on tweaking
and tweaking tools a waste of lifetime better spent on trying to get the
automatisms right. Of course, that option is harder and requires
different resources. But it only needs to be
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
I think that you personally are quite right to focus your efforts on
automation, but it doesn't mean that the efforts to build friendly
tweaking tools are a waste of time or resources ill-spent.
The problem is not with the friendly
2013/11/26 Jan Rosseel j...@rosseel.com:
Dear LilyPonders,
SCORA is a synchronised system for letting orchestra’s play from
displays/tablets. The rendering is based on Lilypond, for various reasons.
One of them being the quality of the rendering for which I do get very
positive feedback.
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Philippe Massart phili...@philmassart.net writes:
Regarding Rachmaninov, his work will enter public domain in Belgium
(and most of European countries) in a few weeks, the January 1st
following the 70th anniversary of his death.
The new trade law treaty
Am 26.11.2013 16:35, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
Aah, this is wondeful! Sibelius being engraved by LilyPond;-)
LOL
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Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Philippe Massart phili...@philmassart.net writes:
Regarding Rachmaninov, his work will enter public domain in Belgium
(and most of European countries) in a few weeks, the January 1st
following the 70th
One World!
2013/11/26 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Philippe Massart phili...@philmassart.net writes:
Regarding Rachmaninov, his work will enter public domain in Belgium
(and most of European countries) in a few weeks, the January 1st
The program:
[...]
Jean Sibelius – 5th Symphony
Aah, this is wondeful! Sibelius being engraved by LilyPond ;-)
Janek
I can assure you this gave nice babylonic situations when discussing the
engraving process with people. I always had to clarify whether I was talking
about Sibelius
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/11/26 Jan Rosseel j...@rosseel.com:
The program:
[...]
Jean Sibelius – 5th Symphony
Aah, this is wondeful! Sibelius being engraved by LilyPond ;-)
Finale included!
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2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/11/26 Jan Rosseel j...@rosseel.com:
The program:
[...]
Jean Sibelius – 5th Symphony
Aah, this is wondeful! Sibelius being engraved by LilyPond ;-)
Finale included!
Take a look at the Finale of
If only we could make a pun of MuseScore
On 11/26/2013 10:49 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote:
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/11/26 Jan Rosseel j...@rosseel.com:
The program:
[...]
Jean Sibelius – 5th Symphony
Aah, this is wondeful!
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Ryan McClure
ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.comwrote:
If only we could make a pun of MuseScore
Yeah, that would be NoteWorthy.
Sorry.
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Am 26.11.2013 16:49, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/11/26 Jan Rosseel j...@rosseel.com:
The program:
[...]
Jean Sibelius – 5th Symphony
Aah, this is wondeful! Sibelius being engraved by LilyPond ;-)
Finale
Marcos Press tdy.p...@gmail.com writes:
2013/11/26 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Philippe Massart phili...@philmassart.net writes:
Regarding Rachmaninov, his work will enter public domain in Belgium
(and most of European countries) in a few
Hi Kieren,
On 26.11.2013 15:38, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
As someone who is experimenting with polymetric music (i.e., with non-aligned
bar lines), please consider — and try to handle gracefully — such situations.
(That is to say, “measure-moment-context” must be Voice-, or at least Staff-,
On 11/26/13 6:45 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
Am 26.11.2013 14:41, schrieb Carl Sorensen:
It's more complex than having a single file that can be correctly
processed by lilypond, but it's doable with today's tools.
Do you have actual experience how this setup behaves when you
Am 26.11.2013 17:16, schrieb Carl Sorensen:
On 11/26/13 6:45 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
Am 26.11.2013 14:41, schrieb Carl Sorensen:
It's more complex than having a single file that can be correctly
processed by lilypond, but it's doable with today's tools.
Do you have actual
Hi all,
The number we want to be talking about is maybe a tweak every few pages.
A friendly tweaking tool is still nice for that, but it's not as
important than when you are doing a hundred tweaks per page.
But if we are talking about a hundred tweaks per page, it is extremely
unlikely
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:
Hi all,
The number we want to be talking about is maybe a tweak every few pages.
A friendly tweaking tool is still nice for that, but it's not as
important than when you are doing a hundred tweaks per page.
But if we are talking about
2013/11/26 Urs Liska m...@ursliska.de:
When finishing a LilyPond score to publication quality there is quite a lot
of tweaking involved - as you can see from Janek's recent posts on
lilypondblog.org. And this tweaking makes the engraving very specific,
actually it's only valid for a specific
2013/11/26 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:
On 11/26/13 6:45 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
Am 26.11.2013 14:41, schrieb Carl Sorensen:
It's more complex than having a single file that can be correctly
processed by lilypond, but it's doable with today's tools.
Do you have actual
2013/11/26 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:
My complex versioning strategy (as Urs correctly called it) is to put
the music in a git repository, with a branch for content, and then a
separate branch for each edition. The branches for each edition are
maintained to be one commit away from the
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
I think that you personally are quite right to focus your efforts on
automation, but it doesn't mean that the efforts to build friendly
tweaking tools are a waste of time or resources
Am 26.11.2013 18:12, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
Bottom line: after \shaping 1000 slurs, i got really bored and
improved \shape. After using it for the next 500 slurs, i expect to
get really bored again and fix some issues in slur formatting that
will bother me the most - because i'll be_personally
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
But if we are talking about a hundred tweaks per page, it is
extremely unlikely that those tweaks are _not_ dealing with
systematic problems, and dealing with systematic problems is
something that the
On 11/26/2013 08:55 AM, David Nalesnik wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Ryan McClure
ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com mailto:ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com
wrote:
If only we could make a pun of MuseScore
Yeah, that would be NoteWorthy.
A nod of respect from Alberta!
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I'm completly with you!
The thing is Trade Treaties means there are ownership discussion.
I do respect Authors but Ownership is a little different.
Corporates rats exist everywhere and from any origen. Even here in
Argentina (South-East American continent).
To stop rats for doing their lifes in
On 11/26/13 9:50 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/11/26 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:
This isn't as big a problem as it could be because I don't get to the
tweaks until the content is reasonably settled.
I was thinking about such setup, too. But the problem that i
Marcos! Otro usuario argentino de Lilypond! Saludos!!!
Marcos! Another argentinian user of Lilypond!!! Greets!
2013/11/26 Marcos Press tdy.p...@gmail.com
I'm completly with you!
The thing is Trade Treaties means there are ownership discussion.
I do respect Authors but Ownership is a little
I frequently typeset psalm chants, where the number of words per reciting
note vary from one verse to another. To help the singers keep their eyes on
the correct line of lyrics, I would like to fill empty space with a line of
dots, like in the index of a book, like so:
The earth is the Lord's,
Even though the default is for bar numbers to be printed at the beginning of
every line of a piece except the first one, there are circumstances where a bar
number is not printed at the beginning of a non-initial line. For example,
the following snippet generates two lines, but the second
I was aware of the project to bump the entry in public domain, but until
now, all I heard was about related rights (performer, producer, etc.) and
not authors.
Philippe
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Hi,
the break happens in the middle of a measure. The break is possible
here, because there is an implicit repeat barline. To let the barnumber
show up, you can do an override at the next barline.
Am 26.11.2013 20:32, schrieb Patrick or Cynthia Karl:
Even though the default is for bar
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Rosen
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:54 AM
To: 'Ryan McClure'; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RE: MultiMeasureRestNumber centered between staves
From: Ryan McClure [mailto:ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:00 PM
Hi Daniel,
Eh. I appreciate the response, but it's not very elegant... I'd prefer it to
be
more automatic. Does such a solution not exist?
Bump.
I assume you found this?
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-10/msg00293.html
Just in case it helps…
Kieren.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 3:23 PM
To: Daniel Rosen
Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List
Subject: Re: MultiMeasureRestNumber centered between staves
Hi Daniel,
I assume you found this?
flup2 phili...@philmassart.net writes:
I was aware of the project to bump the entry in public domain, but until
now, all I heard was about related rights (performer, producer, etc.) and
not authors.
See URL:https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
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Works great! Thank you very much Thomas!!!
2013/11/22 Adrian Fernandez adrianfernandezfa...@gmail.com
Thanks Thomas!!! i'll give it a try
2013/11/21 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
2013/11/21 Adrian Fernandez adrianfernandezfa...@gmail.com:
Hi! excuse my bad english. How can I
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/11/26 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
But if we are talking about a hundred tweaks per page, it is
extremely unlikely that those tweaks are _not_ dealing with
systematic problems, and dealing with
2013/11/25 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
If you'd like to help with getting bend stuff and LilyJAZZ into
openlilylib/snippets that would be absolutely awesome! We accept pull
requests on github, or you could send us patches. If you don't feel
comfortable with such workflows, It
Hi
Just a quick but honest thank you from my side to all of you for
improving the out-of-the-box quality, tweaking-possibilities (e.g.
\shape) and simplifications for users (e.g. the.dot.syntax instead of #')!
I think, the blog posts show that there is still room for improvements
to the
Dear LilyPond users,
Ryan posed a question on the bug-report list regarding how to set the example
in the attached image, with the repeats written out.
You see the new voice is written conceptually as the upper voice, although it
is lower in pitch than the voice being repeated in the percents.
On Nov 27, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net wrote:
Dear LilyPond users,
Ryan posed a question on the bug-report list regarding how to set the example
in the attached image, with the repeats written out.
You see the new voice is written conceptually as the upper voice,
Piaras Hoban phoban01 at gmail.com writes:
Thanks so much for this; works really well. Is the wrapper-function
functionality explained anywhere in the docs?
The closest is
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/extending/callback-functions
where a function references the 'direction of a
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