Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread Stan Sanderson
Briefly- Age: 75, using LilyPond since 2003, many Mutopia submissions which others have updated. Most challenging project (2003-2004): Joseph Archer's parlor piano transcription of his "Alice, Where Art Thou?." Mutopia was my example and teacher back then. I'm a retired physics teacher, frustrat

Re: Unterminated tie

2015-09-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-09-13 0:11 GMT+02:00 David Sumbler : > I have yet another problem related to repeats. The piece I am setting > has one instrument which is tied from the last note in the > first-time-bar to the note at the start of the repeat. (Moving the > repeats does not help, because there are a lot of o

Unterminated tie

2015-09-12 Thread David Sumbler
I have yet another problem related to repeats. The piece I am setting has one instrument which is tied from the last note in the first-time-bar to the note at the start of the repeat. (Moving the repeats does not help, because there are a lot of overlapping ties.) I tried to produce an untermina

Re: vertical kerning problem

2015-09-12 Thread karl
Mike: > I have a nasty vertical kerning issue where the mezzo forte > above the tenor’s “off” is sandwiched between the lyrics “Oz.” > and “to” in the alto. Yes, nasty. > Does anyone know how to force the dynamics (and therefore the > tenor staff) below the lyrics in this case? What if you move

RE: Clef symbol after a barline

2015-09-12 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
David, Here is a snippet. I am not sure where it is located in the manual, V 2.18. \once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3 '( staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature)) The order of the items can be changed to suit needs. All of them need n

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread Jacques Menu
63 years old, recently retired computer scientist, and an amateur double reed player after playing the double bass for some time. Started with LP 2.12, across which I came looking for a LaTeX complement for producing scores. After using TextMate on Mac OS X I switched to Frescobaldi some time a

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread PMA
PMA wrote: PMA wrote: Martin Tarenskeen wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and developers? My average age is 75. Better answer -- My age is 75. I've been using Lilypond for ca 5 years, without an editor (other than VI), and entirely for original comp

Clef symbol after a barline

2015-09-12 Thread David Sumbler
At a repeat, if there is a clef sign within the first-time-bar, then it is essential to restate the appropriate clef at the start of the second-time-bar - but of course the clef sign needs to come after the repeat barline, not before it in its usual position at a barline. I tried the solution post

Re: mixed \time

2015-09-12 Thread David Kastrup
Blöchl Bernhard writes: > Thanks for help! Obviously the correct terms for manual search are > "unmetered" or "cadencas" ... sorry, I did not know. > > If I understand that correctly > \remove "Bar_engraver" > and/or > \remove "Default_bar_line_engraver" > is not enough? More like too much. > M

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson
> > Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > >> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users > >> and developers? 47! I've used LilyPond from the very first versions back in 1996. Actually, I first used the MPP (MusiXTeX PreProcessor) by Han-Wen and Jan and then started to test LilyPon

Re: Fwd: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 59 year old system manager with a background in system programming, down to assembly language. Generally I dislike GUIs, so vi + Lily is "sweet music to my ears", though I do admit to Frescobaldi on occasions. I use it for a little composing, more ar

Re: mixed \time

2015-09-12 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Thanks for help! Obviously the correct terms for manual search are "unmetered" or "cadencas" ... sorry, I did not know. If I understand that correctly \remove "Bar_engraver" and/or \remove "Default_bar_line_engraver" is not enough? My simple minded interpretation of that \remove something was t

Re: mixed \time

2015-09-12 Thread David Kastrup
Blöchl Bernhard writes: >> Am 12.09.2015 20:39, schrieb: >>> There is nothing "polymetric" at all in that code. You just have two >>> separate scores, one after the other. >>> >>> It is not clear what you are trying to achieve here. > > > I did not claim that to be polyrhythm. Anyway, if you co

Re: mixed \time

2015-09-12 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
I did not claim that to be polyrhythm. Anyway, if you compile the code you get a couple of double bars in the second half without any logic, at least for me. However you name that, I want a double bar between the rising and descending scales (with different length/rhythms?) and one double bar

Re: mixed \time

2015-09-12 Thread David Kastrup
Blöchl Bernhard writes: > Am 10.09.2015 15:33, schrieb Phil Holmes: >>  >> I think what you need to look for is "polymetric notation" in the >> Notation Reference. >> >> -- >> Phil Holmes >> > > Indeed my starting point was > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythm

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread Josh Monks
I'm 19 years old and a student of Music at the University of Birmingham. I started to dabble in Lilypond a few years ago when it piqued my interest. Nowadays I use it for engraving composition work and musical examples for essays and other written work. I find Lilypond really useful because I can

Re: Re: Fauré requiem

2015-09-12 Thread karl
Simon Albrecht: > Am 09.09.2015 um 16:55 schrieb k...@aspodata.se: ... > > http://turkos.aspodata.se/choir/osthammar/faur%C3%A9/requiem.pdf > > Some remarks: > – In choral music by convention the dynamics, sometimes also > articulations, phrasing slurs &c. are placed above the staff, at least

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread Pierre-Luc Gauthier
>>> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users I'm ~30 years age. Background: At first using Music Sculptor(for about two years), then Note Worthy(For about 2 years), then Finale(for about 6 years) and then a rather abrupt transition(not being a programmer at all) to th

Re: mixed \time

2015-09-12 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Am 10.09.2015 15:33, schrieb Phil Holmes:  I think what you need to look for is "polymetric notation" in the Notation Reference. -- Phil Holmes Indeed my starting point was http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms#polymetric-notation> In reality I did not mix \

Re: vertical kerning problem

2015-09-12 Thread Mike Solomon
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > > 2015-09-11 15:31 GMT+02:00 Mike Solomon : >> Hey all, >> >> I have a nasty vertical kerning issue where the mezzo forte above the >> tenor’s “off” is sandwiched between the lyrics “Oz.” and “to” in the alto. >> Does anyone know how to f

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread PMA
PMA wrote: Martin Tarenskeen wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and developers? My average age is 75. Better answer -- My age is 75. I've been using Lilypond for ca 5 years, without an editor (other than VI), and entirely for original compositions. My

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
I'm 57. Full-time orchestra musician (bass trombone). I've been using LilyPond for at least 12 years, maybe longer. First heard of it when there was an announcement on the MusiXTeX list that version 0.0.1(?) was released having grown from being a pre-processor to MusiXTeX. It still required

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/09/15 13:24, David Kastrup wrote: > Depends on the composer's date of death and whether you are transcribing > editorial annotations as well or just sticking to the Urtext. "we were > given photocopy music sheet" does not exactly sound a lot more legal > either, though I have indeed (from Ho

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread David Sumbler
I guess I had better join in this "off"-topic. I use Lilypond and Emacs on Ubuntu 12.04. I previously use Score for the flute-and-harp arrangements that my former partner and I used to publish. I found learning to use Lilypond effectively much harder to than Score was. It's always much easier t

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Gerdau writes: >> Meanwhile I reinstalled jEdit and changed java: >> >> $ java -version >> java version "1.6.0_36" >> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.13.8) (6b36-1.13.8-0ubuntu1~14.04) >> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.25-b01, mixed mode) >> >> No success, at least neither C

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2015-09-12 12:37 GMT+02:00 BB : >> Beside the \version line the file has no content. > > A real minimal example ;) I don't see anything in there requiring 2.19.26. The file looks as if it would compile fine with 2.18.0. -- David Kastrup ___

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread David Kastrup
MING TSANG writes: > I'm 68 years old and an IBM mainframe programmer using COBOL. Now retired. > I've been using Lilypond since v1.12. One of the reason I choose > lilypond because it supports UTF-8 for lyrics. Now I am gladly using > V2.18.2 and V2.19.26. > I sing in a choir.  Time and time, we

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread BB
Which mail program do you use? May be the editor of the provider in a browser? Might make some difference. On 12.09.2015 13:36, Thomas Morley wrote: 2015-09-12 13:02 GMT+02:00 Michael Gerdau : Meanwhile I reinstalled jEdit and changed java: $ java -version java version "1.6.0_36" OpenJDK Runt

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

2015-09-12 Thread MING TSANG
I'm 68 years old and an IBM mainframe programmer using COBOL. Now retired. I've been using Lilypond since v1.12. One of the reason I choose lilypond because it supports UTF-8 for lyrics. Now I am gladly using V2.18.2 and V2.19.26. I sing in a choir.  Time and time, we were given photocopy music s

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-09-12 13:02 GMT+02:00 Michael Gerdau : >> Meanwhile I reinstalled jEdit and changed java: >> >> $ java -version >> java version "1.6.0_36" >> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.13.8) (6b36-1.13.8-0ubuntu1~14.04) >> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.25-b01, mixed mode) >> >> No success, a

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread Michael Gerdau
> Meanwhile I reinstalled jEdit and changed java: > > $ java -version > java version "1.6.0_36" > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.13.8) (6b36-1.13.8-0ubuntu1~14.04) > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.25-b01, mixed mode) > > No success, at least neither Ctrl+c Ctrl+v nor via mouse-menu >

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-09-12 12:35 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > Thomas Morley writes: > >> 2015-09-12 8:58 GMT+02:00 Blöchl Bernhard : >>> jEdit is available for >>> Windows >>> Unix/Linux >>> Mac OS X >>> VMS >>> So, Windows is not a hindrance to use jEdit. jEdit needs Java, also >>> available for all platforms. >>

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-09-12 12:37 GMT+02:00 BB : > Beside the \version line the file has no content. A real minimal example ;) > I can copy/paste it withot > any problem. > > \version "2.19.26" > > > > On 12.09.2015 12:15, Thomas Morley wrote: > > I attach a file, where I'm not able to c/p > Can't see anyhing fis

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2015-09-12 8:58 GMT+02:00 Blöchl Bernhard : >> jEdit is available for >> Windows >> Unix/Linux >> Mac OS X >> VMS >> So, Windows is not a hindrance to use jEdit. jEdit needs Java, also >> available for all platforms. >> >> Actual version is jEdit 5.2. I actually do not use

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread BB
Beside the \version line the file has no content. I can copy/paste it withot any problem. \version "2.19.26" On 12.09.2015 12:15, Thomas Morley wrote: I attach a file, where I'm not able to c/p Can't see anyhing fishy there. ___ lilypond-user mai

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-09-12 8:58 GMT+02:00 Blöchl Bernhard : > jEdit is available for > Windows > Unix/Linux > Mac OS X > VMS > So, Windows is not a hindrance to use jEdit. jEdit needs Java, also > available for all platforms. > > Actual version is jEdit 5.2. I actually do not use jEdit, I stopped it about > 20 yea

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread Michael Gerdau
> >> Can somebody confirm? > >> Or ever heard of? Neither. I just installed jEdit 5.2.0 on 64bit ArchLinux and there seems to be no such problem whatsoever. $ java -version openjdk version "1.8.0_60" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_60-b24) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.60-b23, mixe

Re: [OT] gmail: not able to paste code

2015-09-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-09-12 4:30 GMT+02:00 Nick Payne : > On 12/09/2015 07:59, Thomas Morley wrote: >> >> 2015-09-11 23:36 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> right now I'm not able to copy/paste code from jEdit into a mail. >>> >>> I'm using gmail on Ubuntu 14.04 >> >> 64-bit (the host) >> $ uname -a

Re: vertical kerning problem

2015-09-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-09-11 15:31 GMT+02:00 Mike Solomon : > Hey all, > > I have a nasty vertical kerning issue where the mezzo forte above the tenor’s > “off” is sandwiched between the lyrics “Oz.” and “to” in the alto. Does > anyone know how to force the dynamics (and therefore the tenor staff) below > the ly