Re: typesetting: doing it twice

Il giorno dom 18 feb 2018 alle 22:26, Ali Cuota ha scritto: Dear Simon, thanks for your much better formulation: coordinating Mutopia ( or even people without the idea of publishing, but accepting others do it for them). This is my question. Mutopia has a list of

RE: what's the error?

Ben, Thanks for the solution! Mark From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:38 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: what's the error? On 2/18/2018 10:28 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:

Re: what's the error?

On 2/18/2018 10:28 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: Hello, See the attachment for what I want. This is what I code: \relative c'' { <<{bes8 [a]}\\{     \once \set tieWaitForNote = ##t     \grace {c,8~ d~ fis~} 4}>> } The error message is “unterminated tie.” Someone have a keener eye than

what's the error?

Hello, See the attachment for what I want. This is what I code: \relative c'' { <<{bes8 [a]}\\{ \once \set tieWaitForNote = ##t \grace {c,8~ d~ fis~} 4}>> } The error message is "unterminated tie." Someone have a keener eye than I? Thank you. Mark

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Is that the same scenario? By "encountered first" is the doc referring to the parser or to the moment in musical time? I can attempt turning off skylines, but I suspect the score will just explode. I haven't had time to construct a controlled example of the squished spacing. Seems hard to make it

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Hi Saul, > I'm actually surprised that ordering behavior isn't documented. It's so > consistent 99% of the time I just assumed it was officially defined behavior. Well, says “If two objects have the same

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

I'm actually surprised that ordering behavior isn't documented. It's so consistent 99% of the time I just assumed it was officially defined behavior. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Saul, > > > I probably will write such a function >

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Hi Saul, > I probably will write such a function Excellent! Be sure to share it with the list. > when you write ^"one"^"two" you expect "two" to be displayed above "one." I've actually never had that expectation! (Perhaps I should have? I guess I just assumed it works like every other

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

I probably will write such a function to deal with my immediate needs, but I raise the issue because this is a case where Lilypond has well defined behavior MOST of the time, and then sometimes violates it. Normally, when you write ^"one"^"two" you expect "two" to be displayed above "one." It

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

This is exactly my point. All of the suggested solutions to maintain consistent vertical ordering require using a case-by-case override or markup function. There is no way to create a global setting to force Lilypond to respect text vertical ordering. MOST of the time, Lilypond respects the order

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

On 02/18, Saul Tobin wrote: > This is exactly the sort of situation I'm talking about. You're correct > that the order doesn't change the meaning, just as changing the vertical > order of instruments in the score doesn't change the scoring. But there is > a strong convention of how to order

Re: Re[2]: Re-direct write processes in Frescobaldi?

I could conceive of a designer that would do that (solder things to the motherboard) to increase the likelihood of planned obsolescence in a device. But, this is only if the parts that are being used are actually designed that way: and thus cheaply built machines have a higher rate of

Re: Advice on glyph construction

Hi Torsten, Thank you so much for your help. I can adapt that to my needs. It is surprising that the open circle and the filled ones of various sorts in Unicode have different bounding boxes. And that's a great tip for showing the bounding box. You would think these circle glyphs would often be

Re: typesetting: doing it twice

Hi Francois, That's an interesting question but it is software engineering, not something in the lilypond domain. You could use git and manage pull requests,as one example. Yours is a meta level question unrelated to lilypond per se, which is an engraving tool, not a code base management

Re: Re[2]: Re-direct write processes in Frescobaldi?

Hi Joshua, So you are just ignoring all the test results about SSD drives? You think that Macbook Air users should all rush to buy an external disk? As previously, suggested, google the many test results on drive endurance, and take it easy, and discard the myth you hold on to which dates from

Re: Re[2]: Re-direct write processes in Frescobaldi?

Thank you, I already save all of my data to a separate drive, so everything that goes on the SSD is trivial and retrievable (such as purchased apps, etc). I really need this SSD to last a long time, though, as the SSD is soldered directly to the motherboard... This would mean an expensive

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Hi Torsten, > Sometimes, the order of stacks /is/ important and you even can't always put > them together into a \markup column I didn’t refute that. I simply pointed out there is nothing in Lilypond to distinguish between when script order is important and when it's not — so she does what she

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Hi Kieren, Sometimes, the order of stacks /is/ important and you even can't always put them together into a \markup column: Fingering, for example, uses script-priority, too. This time, it does not depend on any input order, but the script-priority is calculated from the Y-position of the

Re: pre-processors for change note_language

On 18.02.2018 22:28, Ali Cuota wrote: Hi again, Do we have some preprocessors to translate noteNames from one language to other? I never read about it, but maybe I missed the point in the doc. LilyPond doesn’t, but python-ly does. You can either open the code in Frescobaldi, highlight it,

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Hi Saul, > However, the vertical order of expressions is part of content, not a purely > graphical layout issue. Hmmm… I'm not sold on that. If I write versus , is the order part of the content? All three notes appear at the same musical moment, and will appear vertically

pre-processors for change note_language

Hi again, Do we have some preprocessors to translate noteNames from one language to other? I never read about it, but maybe I missed the point in the doc. Thanks in advance, Francois ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: typesetting: doing it twice

Dear Simon, thanks for your much better formulation: coordinating Mutopia ( or even people without the idea of publishing, but accepting others do it for them). This is my question. Francois

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Indeed. However, the vertical order of expressions is part of content, not a purely graphical layout issue. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:08 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Saul Tobin writes: > > > It seems very un-Lilypond-like for the output to be so

Re: typesetting: doing it twice

On 18.02.2018 21:40, Ali Cuota wrote: Hello Lilyponders, I have a question about planning typesetting: Do we have any possibility to say which piece we will typeset, by date. To avoid 2 persons typesetting the same at the same moment? Hi Francois, what are you referring to? LilyPond users in

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Saul Tobin writes: > It seems very un-Lilypond-like for the output to be so unpredictable, No. It is the job of LilyPond to arrange elements in the best possible manner representing the input, and that is what it does. LilyPond is not a music typewriter, but a

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Hi Saul, > It seems very un-Lilypond-like for the output to be so unpredictable, given > that the order is well defined most of the time. It is hard to predict from > the code when Lilypond will violate the specified order, so the only real > solution is to combine expressions into a single

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Hi Joram, TextScript.script-priority has a default value of 200. Each concurrent TextScript will be counted up (starting with 200+0 = 200, 200+1 = 201, 200+2 = 202, etc.) by default. The smaller the number, the closer to the notehead. So, by default, LilyPond will keep the order of TextScripts

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

It seems very un-Lilypond-like for the output to be so unpredictable, given that the order is well defined most of the time. It is hard to predict from the code when Lilypond will violate the specified order, so the only real solution is to combine expressions into a single markup 100% of the

Re: 2.19.81 tarball updates?

On 2/18/2018 3:44 PM, Mason Hock wrote: This link doesn't work for you? http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/source/v2.19/ Mason And the current downloads are listed and available here: http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ from the lilypond.org website:

Re: 2.19.81 tarball updates?

On 2/18/2018 3:44 PM, Mason Hock wrote: This link doesn't work for you? It does, but I copied your original message without double checking it - you made a mistake and posted an "s" at the end of downloadI see it now, yes it's online.

Re: 2.19.81 tarball updates?

This link doesn't work for you? http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/source/v2.19/ Mason On 02/18, Ben wrote: > > On 2/18/2018 2:42 PM, Mason Hock wrote: > > downloads.linuxaudio.org is working again, and the mirrors they host > > including Lilypond's are back up. However, the newest

typesetting: doing it twice

Hello Lilyponders, I have a question about planing typesetting: Do we have any possibility to say which piece we will typeset, by date. To avoid 2 persons typesetting the same at the same moment? Thanks in advance, Francois ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Hi, Am 18.02.2018 um 14:16 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle: > How about script-priority? That seems to work: { a-\tweak script-priority #201 -"p=201" -"p default" a a a a-\tweak script-priority #202 -"p=202" -"p default" a a a } According to this example the default priority seems to be

Re: 2.19.81 tarball updates?

On 2/18/2018 2:42 PM, Mason Hock wrote: downloads.linuxaudio.org is working again, and the mirrors they host including Lilypond's are back up. However, the newest version up there is still 2.19.80. When will 2.19.81 be added? Thanks, Mason Hi, It's still down for me here

2.19.81 tarball updates?

downloads.linuxaudio.org is working again, and the mirrors they host including Lilypond's are back up. However, the newest version up there is still 2.19.80. When will 2.19.81 be added? Thanks, Mason ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

How about script-priority? I always thought that concurrent (Text)Scripts will be internally numbered by counting up script-priority in the order given and the first (Text)Scripts will be printed closest to the noteheads (depending on whether the scripts are above or below the stave). So, even

Re: Advice on glyph construction

Hi Andrew, It's quite annoying that the Unicode characters differ in size and bounding box (surprisingly, there is no matching circle among the Geometric Shapes U+25A0 to U+25FF)... Andrew Bernard wrote > [...] but I can't figure out how to get the rightmost Unicode glyph to sit > further down

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Saul Tobin writes: > That's a reasonable workaround, but it's not semantic. A single column > markup is appropriate for one expression split across lines IMO. If it's > multiple expressions communicating distinct things, it makes sense to keep > them separate,

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

That's a reasonable workaround, but it's not semantic. A single column markup is appropriate for one expression split across lines IMO. If it's multiple expressions communicating distinct things, it makes sense to keep them separate, particularly if one or more of them are predefined markups. On

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

On 18.02.2018 01:19, Saul Tobin wrote: Is there a way to force Lilypond to respect the specified vertical order of TextScripts? Ideally, not as a one time override or tweak but throughout an entire score. The solution that comes to mind is assigning different values of

Re: Advice on glyph construction

In partial accomplishment of this with text spanners, the following is close but I can't figure out how to get the rightmost Unicode glyph to sit further down, and then I also need arrows off to the right of this glyph from time to time. I am sure others can do much better than my effort here.

Re[2]: Re-direct write processes in Frescobaldi?

Andrew Bernard wrote on 17/02/2018 08:40:12 Myths about SSD's arise from early days. You have a new computer with presumably a current SSD. Such SSD's can sustain petabyte (that's petabyte) writes before they fail. If you write a terabyte of Frescobaldi data to the disk in a year, which is

Re: Re-direct write processes in Frescobaldi?

Am 18. Februar 2018 09:01:30 MEZ schrieb David Kastrup : >Joshua Nichols writes: > >> The reason I asked was not because I didn't know this, but because an >> article said "under normal use, SSDs will last longer than the >computer >> themselves." I don't

Re: Force Lilypond to preserve vertical order of TextScripts?

Saul Tobin writes: > Hi all, > > I've noticed that under certain circumstances (I think if the page spacing > needs to be compressed?) Lilypond will disregard the vertical order of > TextScripts. So something like: > > \relative c'' { > f4^"long long long"^"short"

Re: Re-direct write processes in Frescobaldi?

Joshua Nichols writes: > The reason I asked was not because I didn't know this, but because an > article said "under normal use, SSDs will last longer than the computer > themselves." I don't know if constantly saving, writing, and compiling > lilypond files with