Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Kevin Cole
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:53 PM Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: > > I'll probably keep the \noBeam rather than the \autoBeamOff, since I'm > > trying to faithfully reproduce the original, as much as I can. > Non sequitur (I think). > > Consider: > > \version "2.22" > \language "english" > > \relative

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Guy Stalnaker
Again, much thanks. I would not have known this without your post. The Documentation page you reference clearly shows use of the "older" type of temporary polyphonic context and in the text explicitly mentions its use for lyric continuation. Yet doing so does require the use of \skip1 in

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Kevin Cole
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:51 PM Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > Am 29.10.21 um 21:03 schrieb Kevin Cole: > > First, I'm using LilyPond v. 2.20.0. (I often seem to end up at 2.18 > > and 2.21 when searching for documentation -- though explicitly > > changing the URL to 2.20 works.) >

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
I'll probably keep the \noBeam rather than the \autoBeamOff, since I'm trying to faithfully reproduce the original, as much as I can. Non sequitur (I think). Consider: \version "2.22" \language "english" \relative {   \time 3/4   \key d \major   d'8\noBeam d e16( fs) g8\noBeam a\noBeam fs

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
p.s. > This would mean that dynamics in either the \lower or \upper variables would > be centred “automagically”, and pedal markings entered in the \lower variable > would “automagically” appear below the staff — all without having to use > extra \dynamics and \pedal variables (with all the

Re: Hide flat (or others) sign

2021-10-29 Thread Knute Snortum
The problem sounds an awful lot like my problem in this thread: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2021-08/msg00243.html The issue is: https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/3466#note_344003849 -- Knute Snortum On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 1:10 PM Carl Sorensen wrote: > > >

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Guy Stalnaker
Whoa! What is this magic you're doing Master Moser?? - I made sure that the bf4. on "days" stays in the voice called melody. There are various ways to do this; I chose a "modern" way using \voices and \\ inside << >> which allows to automatically add a "second" voice This is a

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Am 29.10.21 um 22:14 schrieb Guy Stalnaker: Whoa! What is this magic you're doing Master Moser?? - I made sure that the bf4. on "days" stays in the voice called melody. There are various ways to do this; I chose a "modern" way using \voices and \\ inside << >> which allows to

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Kevin Cole
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:37 PM Guy Stalnaker wrote: > Kevin, > > You're encountering an known situation with polyphonic contexts like this > one. A change in 2.20.x modified how lyrics are calculated in these > polyphonic contexts. You need to manually add to the *lyrics* \skip1 to >

Re: Hide flat (or others) sign

2021-10-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 10/29/21, 12:44 PM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Knute Snortum" wrote: It's a known bug. I think you can shorten your solution to: \once \omit Accidental Can you point me to the issue of the known bug? I couldn't find it in my search. Thanks, Carl

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Kevin, Am 29.10.21 um 21:03 schrieb Kevin Cole: First, I'm using LilyPond v. 2.20.0. (I often seem to end up at 2.18 and 2.21 when searching for documentation -- though explicitly changing the URL to 2.20 works.) Yes, that's a bit of a nuisance. Second, I guess I'm not sure what you mean

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Guy Stalnaker
Kevin, You're encountering an known situation with polyphonic contexts like this one. A change in 2.20.x modified how lyrics are calculated in these polyphonic contexts. You need to manually add to the *lyrics* \skip1 to position the lyrics where you want them. Like so: words =

Re: Manipulating instrument names and staff group names

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > I don’t know of a good way to get this There are a whole bunch of ways to clothe that particular cat… Here’s one: %%% SNIPPET BEGINS %%% \version "2.22.1" \paper { indent = 1\in } \layout { \context { \Score \override InstrumentName.self-alignment-X = #RIGHT

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Kevin Cole
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:03 PM Kevin Cole wrote: > > Hi Lukas, > > First, I'm using LilyPond v. 2.20.0. (I often seem to end up at 2.18 > and 2.21 when searching for documentation -- though explicitly > changing the URL to 2.20 works.) > > Second, I guess I'm not sure what you mean by a

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Kevin Cole
Hi Lukas, First, I'm using LilyPond v. 2.20.0. (I often seem to end up at 2.18 and 2.21 when searching for documentation -- though explicitly changing the URL to 2.20 works.) Second, I guess I'm not sure what you mean by a compatible example: I thought that's what I provided. But the URL below

Re: 3 questions

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Valentin, > I’ve been thinking about maybe we should create a collection of high quality > style sheets users can simply include to get really nice, different styles. I > think that might open up the customizabilty of Lilypond Scores to new users. If you search the archives, you’ll see that

Re: 3 questions

2021-10-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Kieren, Using stylesheets is a powerful option in Lilypond. For example I’ve got a cosmetic include that takes care of fonts and many small details, like paper margins, offsetting ^\markup in Dynamics contexts to have them centered. Also I have slightly heavier Beams (Lilypond’s Beams

Re: Manipulating instrument names and staff group names

2021-10-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Josh, I don’t know of a good way to get this, but it might be worth a specific engraver. We might have some sort of instrument group name engraver that properly handles such stuff. Maybe. Cheers, Valentin Am Freitag, 29. Oktober 2021, 14:58:36 CEST schrieb josh: > Hello. I have been

Re: Hide flat (or others) sign

2021-10-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Mahanidhi, Am 29.10.21 um 20:24 schrieb Mahanidhi: Hello everybody, in one song in*\key gf *I have four consecutive g notes that become natural but I don't know why the program puts again the natural sign in front of the second note. Is it possible to hide the natural sign? Please post a

Re: Hide flat (or others) sign

2021-10-29 Thread Knute Snortum
It's a known bug. I think you can shorten your solution to: \once \omit Accidental -- Knute Snortum On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:36 AM Valentin Petzel wrote: > > Hello Mahandihi, > > It is possible to do that, e.g. By > \once\override Accidental.stencil = ##f > > But it would be better to

Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Kevin, Am 29.10.21 um 20:17 schrieb Kevin Cole: So. I have a piece with a few sections where there are two "voices" as I understand things. And according to the manual, the solution, which works fine is: Could you please post a compilable example? (Preferably as short as possible, but if

Re: Hide flat (or others) sign

2021-10-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Mahandihi, It is possible to do that, e.g. By \once\override Accidental.stencil = ##f But it would be better to fix the underlying problem. Can you send us a small example of when that happens? Are you perhaps using g! (thus forcing a natural accidental)? Cheers, Valentin Am Freitag,

Hide flat (or others) sign

2021-10-29 Thread Mahanidhi
Hello everybody, in one song in \key gf I have four consecutive g notes that become natural but I don't know why the program puts again the natural sign in front of the second note. Is it possible to hide the natural sign? Thank you. Mahanidhi

Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual.

2021-10-29 Thread Kevin Cole
So. I have a piece with a few sections where there are two "voices" as I understand things. And according to the manual, the solution, which works fine is: melody = { \relative { \global \new Voice = "melody" { \partial 4 bf4^\f | % 0

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Lukas, > based on my recent experience with \after, I think it might be reasonable to > develop and test something like that outside of the regular codebase, in > order to see how it fares in everyday heavy use. For sure. > (To be honest, it's not clear to me yet what you're describing.)

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Valentin, > 1) The user interface to this method is maybe not optimal. After all, this is > not a ready developed solution, but a quick test implementation. We do not > want to change the user interface if possible, as that breaks working scores. > So before pushing such a thing to master

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Kieren, I guess the main problems are: 1) The user interface to this method is maybe not optimal. After all, this is not a ready developed solution, but a quick test implementation. We do not want to change the user interface if possible, as that breaks working scores. So before pushing

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Kieren, Is there any technical reason this kind of thing shouldn’t be in the codebase, with the end-goal to replace the current “Piano with centred dynamics” template/mechanism with a \with-driven improvement? If it’s simply ;) a matter of getting the code polished up and pushed through

Re: 3 questions

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Kira, > I am also a new user Nice to have you in the ’Pond! > what draws me to Lilypond is the sheer aesthetics of it. Even the most basic > thing created with Lilypond looks 1000 times more professional and attractive > than MuseScore, in my opinion! Oh, for sure. I have a choral octavo

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Is there any technical reason this kind of thing shouldn’t be in the codebase, with the end-goal to replace the current “Piano with centred dynamics” template/mechanism with a \with-driven improvement? If it’s simply ;) a matter of getting the code polished up and pushed through the

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Stefano, > I just needed to state that this thread completely blew my mind. I’ve become almost totally immune to Lilypond — the application and the community — blowing my mind… But even my jaw dropped a little because of this thread. =) Cheers, Kieren.

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Stefano Troncaro
Hi all! I just needed to state that this thread completely blew my mind. Sorry for the spam, I found this too awesome to watch silently. El vie, 29 oct 2021 a las 10:25, Kieren MacMillan (< kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca>) escribió: > Hi David, > > >> My *big* question is: Can notes be pushed

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, >> My *big* question is: Can notes be pushed *with timing >> synchronization* between context? > > Without storing events, how would it even be possible without timing > synchronisation? Iteration happens in time order. Well, apart from > grace timing quirks. 1. That was my

Re: Licensing and custom lines

2021-10-29 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 29.10.2021 um 13:47 schrieb Wol : > > > Copyright exists SEPARATELY in the composition, the arrangement, the > performance, and the edition. >> As long as you distribute only engravings (output from LilyPond), there is >> no assertion in GPL of a need to release source, as described in

Re: Licensing and custom lines

2021-10-29 Thread Wol
On 28/10/2021 14:39, Carl Sorensen wrote: *From: *lilypond-user on behalf of Charlie Boilley *Date: *Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 1:37 AM *To: *"lilypond-user@gnu.org" *Subject: *Licensing and custom lines Dear Lilypond community, Then, how can be 100% sure that I can keep : - my

Re: Sending around contexts

2021-10-29 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi Valentin (et al.), > > This is looking marvellous! > > Agreed! This is the kind of mechanism I’ve been seeking for quite a > while now. Beyond the obvious (dynamics), I have lots of applications: > sending text/markup “past” an intervening context; sharing items >