Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Ruedas rue...@dtm.ciw.edu writes: Hi Kieren, On 27/4/12 3:00 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I doubt that this new default behavior reflects common practice, though As a pianist, I can tell you it absolutely does reflect common engraving practice for piano staves: It is a very rare piano

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Ruedas
Hi Kieren, On 27/4/12 3:41 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: It should be easy to define a custom context (e.g. MultiStaffPiano) to behave this way — perhaps when you've got it worked out as you think it should behave, you can add it to the codebase? I would like to, but I guess I would have to know

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Ruedas
Hi David, On 27/4/12 10:34 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Thomas Ruedasrue...@dtm.ciw.edu writes: i.e., my main concern here is the situation where you may have more than two staves, which is a much more common situation. Why would you be using a PianoStaff for those? I'm not sure I understand

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, In some piano music, you may have three different levels, as it were, e.g. a melodic line in the treble, played by the right hand, a deep bass consisting of long notes in the left hand, and in between chords filling in the time between the bass notes, also played by the left hand. In such

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Thomas, I would like to, but I guess I would have to know GUILE/Scheme and/or C++ in order to do that Not really… Just Lilypond. What are the features/behaviours you want? I'm sure we can quickly build it together. Cheers, Kieren. ___

\RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-26 Thread Thomas Ruedas
Hi again, I have a piano score in which there are sometimes two, sometimes three staves, and I want the empty third staff to disappear during long stretches in which it is empty. This used to work in an earlier version (2.10) but after having converted to 2.14.2, it doesn't anymore. Below

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-26 Thread Choan Gálvez
On 4/27/12 01:51 , Thomas Ruedas wrote: Hi again, I have a piano score in which there are sometimes two, sometimes three staves, and I want the empty third staff to disappear during long stretches in which it is empty. This used to work in an earlier version (2.10) but after having converted to

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-26 Thread Thomas Morley
Am 27. April 2012 01:51 schrieb Thomas Ruedas rue...@dtm.ciw.edu: Hi again, I have a piano score in which there are sometimes two, sometimes three staves, and I want the empty third staff to disappear during long stretches in which it is empty. This used to work in an earlier version (2.10)

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-26 Thread Thomas Ruedas
Hi Choan and Harm, thanks for the prompt reply. On 27/4/12 2:28 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: this is a new feature with 2.14. The Keep_alive_together_engraver: Per default a PianoStaff is removed only when all staves are empty. A single staff isn't deleted any more. If you want this behaviour,

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Thomas, I doubt that this new default behavior reflects common practice, though As a pianist, I can tell you it absolutely does reflect common engraving practice for piano staves: It is a very rare piano score (perhaps 1/10 of 1%) that contains only a single staff. That is precisely the

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-26 Thread Thomas Ruedas
Hi Kieren, On 27/4/12 3:00 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I doubt that this new default behavior reflects common practice, though As a pianist, I can tell you it absolutely does reflect common engraving practice for piano staves: It is a very rare piano score (perhaps 1/10 of 1%) that contains

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Thomas, i.e., my main concern here is the situation where you may have more than two staves, which is a much more common situation. The case I wanted to make in the first place is to drop empty staves beyond the second staff, and in the piano scores I have (e.g. Debussy or Messiaen), it