A variation on issues #34: grace notes and \stemNeutral

2024-09-23 Thread Knute Snortum
This is a variation on issue #34 (grace note synchronization) where \stemNeutral gets ignored in one staff if there's a grace note in the other. %%% \version "2.25.18" rightHand = \relative { c'1 | \grace { c8 } c2 } leftHand = \relative { \clef bass \stemDown f,2 f | % \grace { s8 } %

Re: Accent too close to note with acciaccatura and slur

2024-09-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I have been running into... not quite a bug, but an "ugly" (bugly?) > where the accent is engraved too close to a note with an > acciaccatura and a slur. Here's a MWE: > > %%% > \version "2.25.18" > > \fixed c' { \acciaccatura { f8 } e

Re: Accent too close to note with acciaccatura and slur

2024-09-21 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 11:25 AM wrote: > Knute, > > > > Is positioning the accent above the note permissible? > > > > \fixed c' { \acciaccatura { f8 } e4^>^( f4) } > That's one way to do it... -- Knute Snortum

RE: Accent too close to note with acciaccatura and slur

2024-09-21 Thread carsonmark
Subject: Accent too close to note with acciaccatura and slur I have been running into... not quite a bug, but an "ugly" (bugly?) where the accent is engraved too close to a note with an acciaccatura and a slur. Here's a MWE: %%% \version "2.25.18" \fixed c&

Accent too close to note with acciaccatura and slur

2024-09-21 Thread Knute Snortum
I have been running into... not quite a bug, but an "ugly" (bugly?) where the accent is engraved too close to a note with an acciaccatura and a slur. Here's a MWE: %%% \version "2.25.18" \fixed c' { \acciaccatura { f8 } e4->^( f4) } %%% At the moment I just adj

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-21 Thread Walt North
ra Staff not to appear is to add the following to your \layout block:   \context {     \Score     \accepts NullVoice   } As an aside directed more at the dev community: is there any good reason not to make this the default behavior (and similar for StaffGroup,

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Saul Tobin
<< > << > \new NullVoice = "verseB" { \break \verseLyricsMelody } > >> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "verseB" { \verseOneLyrics } > >> > } > > > > On 9/20/2024 7:51 PM, Saul Tobin wrote: > > Another w

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
;verseB" { \verseOneLyrics }   >> } On 9/20/2024 7:51 PM, Saul Tobin wrote: Another way to get the extra Staff not to appear is to add the following to your \layout block:   \context {     \Score     \accepts NullVoice   } As an aside directed more at the dev community: is there

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
Sorry to be a pest I'm probably  just not getting the syntax correct.  I've tried this a couple of ways. To be clear this is a sample to demonstrate the question. Not what the actual score is. \version "2.24.2" \language "english" \layout {   indent = 0   \context {     \NullVoice  

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Saul Tobin
Another way to get the extra Staff not to appear is to add the following to your \layout block: \context { \Score \accepts NullVoice } As an aside directed more at the dev community: is there any good reason not to make this the default behavior (and similar for StaffGroup, etc

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
First - the example I sent is a stripped down sample just to demonstrate the question I have. For the actual score the intent is two fold. Intent one. The resulting score may be used by multiple instruments and vocalists.  In the case of the guitar player they only need the lyrics and chords

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Vaughan McAlley
On Sat, 21 Sept 2024 at 10:20, Walt North wrote: > Thanks, that took care of the alignment. > > However now I see an empty staff. Is it expected I would then have to > remove all empty staves? I tried that but may not have it right > > > \version "2.24.2" > > \language "english" > > \layout { >

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Saul Tobin
The easiest way to get the staff not to appear would be to put NullVoice inside a Staff or similar context that you want to appear. On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 8:19 PM Walt North wrote: > Thanks, that took care of the alignment. > > However now I see an empty staff. Is it expected I would then have

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread David Wright
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "verseB" { \verseOneLyrics } >   >> > } I could kind of see where you were going with https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2024-09/msg00152.html where you might have a guitarist strumming chords as they follow the words and chords of a song who

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
Thanks, that took care of the alignment. However now I see an empty staff.  Is it expected I would then have to remove all empty staves?  I tried that but may not have it right \version "2.24.2" \language "english" \layout {   indent = 0   \context {     \NullVoice     \RemoveAllEmptyStaves

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Saul Tobin
My understanding is that Devnull is not intended for alignment of lyrics because it does not have the necessary engraver to create the invisible grobs used for alignment. It appears to me in your example that actually the lyrics are just being spaced evenly without alignment to anything. Nullvoice

devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
Am I missing something?  It seems like using devnull to align lyrics to does pay attention to ties.  Ties do seem to be honored when using voice for alignment. Below is a stripped down example with screenshot. \version "2.24.2" \language "english" \layout {   indent = 0 } verseLyricsMelody

Re: scheme: problem with variable and value

2024-09-20 Thread K. Blum
Hi Timothy, Am 20.09.2024 um 21:28 schrieb Timothy Lanfear: You need (markup #:override `(box-padding . ,myvalue) #:box text) thanks a lot, that does the trick! Cheers, Klaus

Re: scheme: problem with variable and value

2024-09-20 Thread Timothy Lanfear
On 20/09/2024 20:20, K. Blum wrote: \version "2.24.3" #(define-markup-command (dosomething layout props text) (markup?)    (let* ((myvalue 1)) (interpret-markup   layout props   ; (markup #:override '(box-padding . 1) #:box text))   ; works   (markup #:override '(box-padding .

scheme: problem with variable and value

2024-09-20 Thread K. Blum
Dear community, I try to use a variable instead of a simple hard-coded value (outside the MWE, this would be the result of a calculation): %--- \version "2.24.3" #(define-markup-command (dosomething layout props text) (markup?)    (let* ((myvalue 1)) (inter

Text markup length and bar spacing

2024-09-17 Thread Lib Lists
Hi everybody, I'm trying to find the right option to make sure that the bar spacing follows the length of a text markup. See this example: if it's one bar long it works, if 2 or more it doesn't. \version "2.25.19" \score { << \new StaffGroup << \new Staff = "upper" { c'4 -\mar

Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate

2024-09-16 Thread William Rehwinkel via LilyPond user discussion
Dear Stu, I don't think that is the problem here, because in original OP snippet, if you comment out the line `\new Voice { \voiceFour e,2 }`, there is no barcheck fail, and if you try the following example you can hear how the upper notes become out of sync with the lower notes in the

Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate

2024-09-16 Thread Stu McKenzie via LilyPond User List
On 2024-09-16 14:27, Knute Snortum wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 2:14 PM Knute Snortum wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:15 PM David Kastrup wrote: In my book, an appoggiatura is executed at least with the written duration, and here you take 3/16 of time from 1/8

Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate

2024-09-16 Thread Knute Snortum
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 2:14 PM Knute Snortum wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:15 PM David Kastrup wrote: > >> >> In my book, an appoggiatura is executed at least with the written >> duration, and here you take 3/16 of time from 1/8. How is that supposed >

Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate

2024-09-16 Thread Knute Snortum
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:15 PM David Kastrup wrote: > > In my book, an appoggiatura is executed at least with the written > duration, and here you take 3/16 of time from 1/8. How is that supposed > to work? You probably want \acciaccatura or \grace instead. I think you're

Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate

2024-09-16 Thread David Kastrup
t; > This may be related to the problems with creating the MIDI output of an > appoggiatura with articulate. In my book, an appoggiatura is executed at least with the written duration, and here you take 3/16 of time from 1/8. How is that supposed to work? You probably want \acciacca

Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate

2024-09-16 Thread Knute Snortum
I have discovered that LilyPond 2.25.19 produces a bad bar check warning under certain circumstances. The three parts are 1) using two voices, 2) an appoggiatura, 3) using articulate.ly. Below is my example code: %%% \version "2.25.19" rightHand = \relative { \time 3/4 << { \voiceOne e'

Re: Inconsistent crescendo endings (and kate weirdness)

2024-08-26 Thread Knute Snortum
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 2:47 PM Wol wrote: > I've got a little mwe, but my crescendo endings seem a little random. On > line 1, the crescendo ends on the bar line, but the \! is on the g flat. > On line 2, the \! is on the g, and the crescendo ends on the g as I > would expe

Inconsistent crescendo endings (and kate weirdness)

2024-08-26 Thread Wol
I've got a little mwe, but my crescendo endings seem a little random. On line 1, the crescendo ends on the bar line, but the \! is on the g flat. On line 2, the \! is on the g, and the crescendo ends on the g as I would expect. Any ideas why? It's almost as if lilypond is randoml

Re: Song with repeat and partial

2024-08-10 Thread Raphael Mankin
mmon, that was why I asked and I was hoping that there was a way of doing it without stubs. But as that seems to be the accepted wisdom, so be it.

Re: Song with repeat and partial

2024-08-10 Thread Valentin Petzel
> I was hoping there was a neat trick that did not involve stubs. But if > that is the "traditional" way of doing things I mean, what du you want to see in the end? This sort of notation is very common in vocal music. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Song with repeat and partial

2024-08-09 Thread Raphael Mankin
On 09/08/2024 09:54, Valentin Petzel wrote: I have a song with an intro, several stanzas, and a refrain. Each stanza starts on the last beat of the measure.See the attached MWE. Is there a neat way of avoiding having a repeat bar in the middle of a measure while preserving the stanza numbers

Re: Song with repeat and partial

2024-08-09 Thread Valentin Petzel
> I have a song with an intro, several stanzas, and a refrain. Each stanza > starts on the last beat of the measure.See the attached MWE. > > Is there a neat way of avoiding having a repeat bar in the middle of a > measure while preserving the stanza numbers is their proper pla

Re: Song with repeat and partial

2024-08-08 Thread Raphael Mankin
t the stanza numbers could become detached from their proper place, which is in front of the first syllable of each verse. However, I would take the advice of Henning Hraban Ramm, and place Refrain as markup (I would use italics) over the staff, rather than inserting it into the lyrics. If that's no

Re: Song with repeat and partial

2024-08-08 Thread David Wright
hed from their proper place, which is in front of the first syllable of each verse. However, I would take the advice of Henning Hraban Ramm, and place Refrain as markup (I would use italics) over the staff, rather than inserting it into the lyrics. If that's not possible for other reasons, then

Song with repeat and partial

2024-08-07 Thread Raphael Mankin
This is a follow-up from a question I asked a few weeks back. I have a song with an intro, several stanzas, and a refrain. Each stanza starts on the last beat of the measure.See the attached MWE. Is there a neat way of avoiding having a repeat

Re: OpenLilyLib include-pattern, instrument header, and \include layout { }

2024-08-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Pond-mates! >> to get the behavior of \header { instrument = "whatever" }, >> as seen with \bookpart, > > What's available for changing the "instrument" header mid-piece, > without using \bookpart at all? %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.25.11" \paper { scoreTitleMarkup = \markup \fromprope

Re: OpenLilyLib include-pattern, instrument header, and \include layout { }

2024-08-07 Thread Karlin High
On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 10:21 PM Karlin High wrote: > to get the behavior of \header { instrument = "whatever" }, > as seen with \bookpart, Another idea: What's available for changing the "instrument" header mid-piece, without using \bookpart at all? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA

Re: Multiple fingering and glides

2024-08-07 Thread Valentin Petzel
Am Donnerstag, 1. August 2024, 22:36:40 MESZ schrieb Fennel: > Hi all, > > I'm working on a project that involves multiple fingerings for each note, > and shift lines or glides between some notes. Since lilypond will only > engrave glides between notes with the same fingering

Re: Multiple fingering and glides

2024-08-07 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 6. Aug. 2024 um 05:14 Uhr schrieb Fennel : > > Multiple fingerings are being used because I'm working on a heavily annotated > edition of a work that suggests multiple sets of fingerings for a single > passage. To summarize, alternative fingerings, right? > I'm currently choosing to eng

OpenLilyLib include-pattern, instrument header, and \include layout { }

2024-08-06 Thread Karlin High
es are suitable. The finished tune index will be part of a pocket-size book, 3-3/8" x 5" (85mm x 127mm) with ~10 single staves per page, each with notation for the first line of a tune as sung. OpenLilyLib (version 0.6.0) \includePattern is working well to include 233 (and counting) .ly

Re: Multiple fingering and glides

2024-08-05 Thread Fennel
Multiple fingerings are being used because I'm working on a heavily annotated edition of a work that suggests multiple sets of fingerings for a single passage. I'm currently choosing to engrave harmonic symbols (the flageolets) as fingering objects as well because I need them to behave like fing

Cross-nesting \repeat segno and \repeat volta

2024-08-03 Thread Vlado Ilić
I'm wondering the same thing, here's my example: \version "2.24.4" \relative c' { c1 \mark \markup{\segno} \repeat volta 2 { d \mark \markup{\coda} \alternative { \volta 1 { e } \volta 2 { f } } } g_\markup { \hspace #8 \center-column { \line {\italic "D.S." \segno \italic "al" \coda} \italic

Shorten volta spanner to first and last measure only

2024-08-03 Thread Vlado Ilić
spanner on measure 1 and measure 28

Re: "oom pah" and chord line

2024-08-02 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:18, Gilles Sadowski a écrit : > > Hello. > > A common accompaniment motive is "oom pah": > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oom-pah > > An excerpt of a LilyPond-generated score is attached. > I get this PDF output by encoding separatel

Re: Multiple fingering and glides

2024-08-02 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Fr., 2. Aug. 2024 um 05:42 Uhr schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > > > > I'm working on a project that involves multiple fingerings for each > > note, and shift lines or glides between some notes. [...] > > Hopefully Harm has some time to help here since he is the origi

Re: Multiple fingering and glides

2024-08-01 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I'm working on a project that involves multiple fingerings for each > note, and shift lines or glides between some notes. [...] Hopefully Harm has some time to help here since he is the original author of the fingering glide code, IIRC. > 1. The \once text override is applying

Multiple fingering and glides

2024-08-01 Thread Fennel
Hi all, I'm working on a project that involves multiple fingerings for each note, and shift lines or glides between some notes. Since lilypond will only engrave glides between notes with the same fingering, I'm using finger 5 to be the placeholder fingering and overriding the Fing

Re: Spontini and page numbers

2024-07-31 Thread Paolo Prete
This is a LilyPond bug, not a Spontini issue. Which LilyPond version are you currently using? Did you try other versions as well? In any case, if changing LilyPond doesn't solve the issue I can show you alternative ways to print page numbers, but I will be home with my PC available on Monday, so pl

Spontini and page numbers

2024-07-31 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
Spontini (v1.25) is behaving oddly in the following example. In SVG mode the following code will compile, but both pages will not be available in the browser panel, only the first page. If Spontini is then set to PDF mode, it will behave as expected, but at the cost of the graphic functionality

"oom pah" and chord line

2024-07-31 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. A common accompaniment motive is "oom pah": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oom-pah An excerpt of a LilyPond-generated score is attached. I get this PDF output by encoding separately the "oom" ("bassoon" line) and the "pah" (the chord line), fo

Re: Engravers, fingerings and acknowledgments

2024-07-29 Thread Luca Fascione
On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 5:57 AM David Kastrup wrote: > Lukas-Fabian Moser writes: > > > You're using append! wrong. > > So try > > > > (set! fl (append fl ...)) > > (append! '() ...) > > cannot modify an empty list in-place because there is on

Re: Engravers, fingerings and acknowledgments

2024-07-29 Thread David Kastrup
). Most pertinent: (append! '() ...) cannot modify an empty list in-place because there is only one empty list in the whole system and it is an unchangeable constant. Indeed Guile happens to modify the given list in-place with append! whenever it can, but it is impossible for the empty list. -- David Kastrup

Re: Engravers, fingerings and acknowledgments

2024-07-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
trying to understand a problem I'm seeing. > > I have this engraver that acknowledges stems and fingerings, > this is meant to work with a before-line-breaking callback that > repositions the fingerings. > So I thought that I could just sit there, listen for the fingerings as > t

Engravers, fingerings and acknowledgments

2024-07-29 Thread Luca Fascione
Hi, I'm trying to understand a problem I'm seeing. I have this engraver that acknowledges stems and fingerings, this is meant to work with a before-line-breaking callback that repositions the fingerings. So I thought that I could just sit there, listen for the fingerings as they got

Re: Tempo changes and spanners

2024-07-24 Thread Tom Brennan
I really appreciate your work on that! It's also a very instructive example to emulate, I imagine. One quick question -- is this "lattice" idea I'm doing (maintaining a separate voice with nothing but tempo and spaces that gets munged into the parts) a bad idea for any reas

Re: Tempo changes and spanners

2024-07-23 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 23. Juli 2024 um 23:52 Uhr schrieb Tom Brennan : > > Hi all > > I'm notating a sonata for a cello and piano, and I would like to produce > three "artifacts" (products?) from this: > > 1. A solo cello part (a typical single staff representation) >

Tempo changes and spanners

2024-07-23 Thread Tom Brennan
Hi all I'm notating a sonata for a cello and piano, and I would like to produce three "artifacts" (products?) from this: 1. A solo cello part (a typical single staff representation) 2. A "study score" where all staves are equivalent sizes 3. An accompaniment part for t

Re: Matching Lilypond and Word font sizes

2024-07-15 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 at 09:18, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > If you use `\abs-fontsize`, you get a font size (in markups) in points > regardless of the selected staff size. Hello, And the default text font size is 11pt for a default staff size (20pt), as documented by Werner in NR 1.

Re: Matching Lilypond and Word font sizes

2024-07-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Tell me where you can find out or see how the font sizes in > lilypond and Word correspond. For example, \SetFontSize = #1, What is `\SetFontSize`? > \abs-font size #1, how do they match the font size in Word? If you use `\abs-fontsize`, you get a font size (in markups)

Matching Lilypond and Word font sizes

2024-07-14 Thread Виноградов Юрий
Hello. Tell me where you can find out or see how the font sizes in lilypond and Word correspond.For example, \SetFontSize = #1, \abs-font size #1, how do they match the font size in Word? Please help me.С уважением,Виноградов Юрий.

Thoughts on Emacs LilyPond-mode, templates and Lyqi

2024-07-13 Thread Laurie Savage
Hi, I've been playing with Emacs for editing Lilypond files, and while it isn't Frescobaldi I'm starting to enjoy using it. After all, George R R Martin wrote Game of Thrones on Wordstar because he was comfortable with the keystrokes. *Templates*: I have found a very good re

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-10 Thread David Wright
gt; > > How is that at its root different for your Deck? Look at the position of the << >> for a start. In Deck, taking a single verse of lyrics, the simultaneity is between the lyrics and the upper voices (Staff << >>), and hence with the lower voices (ChoirStaff &l

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-09 Thread Raphael Mankin
arallelism is coded at the level of the staff which is a bit further away from the lyrics definitions. Your texti, textii and textiii are according to the syntax also to be sung simultaneously. I agree that different structuring would probably make the problem go away. I am still learning my w

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-09 Thread Hans Aikema
ible as the parallelism is coded at the level of the staff which is a bit further away from the lyrics definitions. Your texti, textii and textiii are according to the syntax also to be sung simultaneously.

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-09 Thread David Wright
. With real music, as opposed to MWEs, your "extra line" problem usually goes away by arranging that the verse/chorus interface occurs across a linebreak. For example, if you were setting the Satie on four pages rather than the published six, pages 1 & 2 would have one line of lyrics

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-09 Thread David Wright
ise them. Rather, look at the system's default Compose sequences, which on Debian are stored at: /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose Search or scroll down to "agrave", where the French diacriticals start, and notice that they're mnemonic: Compose ` a makes à, as d

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> As you mention 'snippet': The right place for this is the LSR, I >> believe. > > Definitely, yes. But I don’t dislike the idea of having some more or > less standard LSR snippets for people who want something like this. Having a 'standard LSR snippet' is certainly a good thing since we then c

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-08 Thread Raphael Mankin
On 08/07/2024 22:12, Mats Bengtsson wrote: On 2024-07-08 21:40, Raphael Mankin wrote: An alternative to the already proposed solutions is to name the Lyrics context that you want to keep, and then reuse it for the refrain: \version "2.24.3" melody = { \relative c'    

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 2024-07-08 21:40, Raphael Mankin wrote: An alternative to the already proposed solutions is to name the Lyrics context that you want to keep, and then reuse it for the refrain: \version "2

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-08 Thread Raphael Mankin
On 08/07/2024 19:53, Mats Bengtsson wrote: On 2024-07-08 15:37, Raphael Mankin wrote: I am having difficulty layout  satisfactorily a song that has 3 verses and a refrain. The refrain comes on a separate line from the verses. It looks unsightly, and wastes space on the page. Neither NR nor

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 2024-07-08 15:37, Raphael Mankin wrote: I am having difficulty layout  satisfactorily a song that has 3 verses and a refrain. The refrain comes on a separate line from the verses. It looks unsightly, and wastes space on the page. Neither

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-08 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 08.07.24 um 15:51 schrieb Raphael Mankin: Yes, that works, thank you. Not as elegant a solution as I would like, in that it mixes verse with refrain, but it works. You can use \set stanza = "1. " at the beginning of the lyrics, and for the chorus either the same or something lik

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-08 Thread Raphael Mankin
Yes, that works, thank you. Not as elegant a solution as I would like, in that it mixes verse with refrain, but it works. On 08/07/2024 14:46, Christopher R. Maden wrote: On 7/8/24 09:37, Raphael Mankin wrote: I am having difficulty layout  satisfactorily a song that has 3 verses and a

Re: Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-08 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 7/8/24 09:37, Raphael Mankin wrote: I am having difficulty layout  satisfactorily a song that has 3 verses and a refrain. The refrain comes on a separate line from the verses. It looks unsightly, and wastes space on the page. Neither NR nor LM seem to address this case. I don’t remember

Song: multiple verses and refrain

2024-07-08 Thread Raphael Mankin
I am having difficulty layout satisfactorily a song that has 3 verses and a refrain. The refrain comes on a separate line from the verses. It looks unsightly, and wastes space on the page. Neither NR nor LM seem to address this case. I attach my MWE. But here is the .ly

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
with grmpf above' not part of > >> this or that set?" > > > > > > Yes, but here the extensibility comes into play. If you want to do > > something like that and we have a snippet for that → use the > > snippet. If you prefer different encodi

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Raphael Mankin
oards, one ordinary one, and one for mathematical symbols. Nowadays we can have programmable keycap symbols that can change as we press shift/alt/compose. That may be a way to go - relatively cheap and can be handled at the OS level.

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
, but here the extensibility comes into play. If you want to do > something like that and we have a snippet for that → use the > snippet. If you prefer different encodings → change things as you > like. Lilypond does already offer a quite powerful framework for > getting such things

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2024, 18:41:56 MESZ schrieb Werner LEMBERG: > > And so while I do agree that if the problem can be solved before > > Lilypond actually matter, then great. But if this does not work out > > to you, then nothings wrong with getting Lilypond to help you out.

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> And so while I do agree that if the problem can be solved before > Lilypond actually matter, then great. But if this does not work out > to you, then nothings wrong with getting Lilypond to help you out. Certainly! However, this shouldn't become part of LilyPond IMHO; it'

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
t then this becomes sole responsibility of the OS and toolset. But then we’d demand all people to feel comfortable with the options that do exist. Maybe for you and your cases compose sequences do work well. But then there are and have been many paradigms of inputting and encoding such stuff, a

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Anyhow, I persist in my opinion that facilitating the input of > accented characters is best done at a level different than LilyPond. +1 Werner

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le jeudi 04 juillet 2024 à 15:21 +0100, Raphael Mankin a écrit : > It is partly an OS problem,  but also that no common keyboard (or > keyboard layout) contains  the complete set of Latin characters. Not sure how far what you call the “complete set of Latin characters” extends, but if you somehow

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Raphael Mankin
On 04/07/2024 09:57, Jean Abou Samra wrote: Le jeudi 04 juillet 2024 à 08:09 +0100, Raphael Mankin a écrit : I already use these, but they are incomplete. Thanks to all who replied; I obviously struck a nerve, and i10n is still an issue in spite of utf8. I beg to differ. IMHO, entering

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 04.07.24 11:14, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: I suppose it'd be also possible if you're wrapping your .ly file inside some latex-ly .tex file to use LaTeX's syntax for accented characters Certainly the reason why #(include-special-characters) was developed, see my other reply in the thread. Bes

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
with diacritics—I wonder why those aren’t included. I thought maybe ´ etc. might be combining diacritics, but that’s not the case either. So I think they should be added. Meanwhile, the first link above explains how to easily add more replacements yourself—I use it for prime signs and thin

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
s. N. Andrew Walsh er/ihn/ihm/sein | he/him/his Berlin On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 11:21 PM Raphael Mankin wrote: > I have tried all sorts of things, but how do I get French accented > characters in lyrics and markup? > > > -- > > >

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le jeudi 04 juillet 2024 à 08:09 +0100, Raphael Mankin a écrit : > I already use these, but they are incomplete. > > Thanks to all who replied; I obviously struck a nerve, and i10n is still > an issue in spite of utf8. I beg to differ. IMHO, entering special characters is an OS-l

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-04 Thread Raphael Mankin
replied; I obviously struck a nerve, and i10n is still an issue in spite of utf8. Best regards Simon

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Valentin, On 03.07.24 14:31, Valentin Petzel wrote: I’ve taken some time to create a function for decoding html-style entities. wow, that’s a great bit of initiative! I’m really sorry that only upon seeing this I remembered the text-replacements function already in LilyPond which does pre

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-03 Thread Raphael Mankin
’ve added the option of using a : to specify unicode number as the default # has a special meaning in Lilypond and will thus require quotes.) The file is quite large because it contains a mapping of entity-strings to unicode entities. But simply include the file and use \htmldecode where ever you

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-03 Thread Valentin Petzel
; > > > \markup\htmldecode { "á" "è" "ç" "â" ... } > > > > or > > > > \markup\htmldecode { &:xE1; &:xE8; &:xE7; &:xE2; ... } > > > > (I’ve added the option of using a : to specify unicode number

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-03 Thread Valentin Petzel
t; or > > \markup\htmldecode { "á" "è" "ç" "â" ... } > > or > > \markup\htmldecode { &:xE1; &:xE8; &:xE7; &:xE2; ... } > > (I’ve added the option of using a : to specify unicode number as the default > # has a specia

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-03 Thread Valentin Petzel
&:xE1; &:xE8; &:xE7; &:xE2; ... } (I’ve added the option of using a : to specify unicode number as the default # has a special meaning in Lilypond and will thus require quotes.) The file is quite large because it contains a mapping of entity-strings to unicode entities. But simply i

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-03 Thread Carlo Stemberger
for ç); 2) Using a compose sequence[1] (more practical). On a GNU/Linux system an Italian keyboard might be a good alternative for you: it's a QWERTY keyboard, you have the most common characters (é è ç à É È Ç À) available, and you can get the missing ones with method 2. Best regards, Ca

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-03 Thread Jean Abou Samra
x desktop, this is very easy to enable: open Settings app, select the "Keyboard" tab and click "Compose key" (under "Special Character Entry"). You can configure a key of your keyboard to be a "Compose key" which makes it insert various special characte

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-03 Thread Raphael Mankin
On 02/07/2024 22:25, Jean Abou Samra wrote: I have tried all sorts of  things, but how  do I get French accented characters in lyrics and markup? Uh… just write them directly: \version "2.24.2" \markup { Quelques caractères accentués } \lyrics { É à û Ï } Thank you. The

Re: French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-02 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> I have tried all sorts of  things, but how  do I get French accented > characters in lyrics and markup? Uh… just write them directly: \version "2.24.2" \markup { Quelques caractères accentués } \lyrics { É à û Ï } Jean signature.asc Description: This is a digitall

French lyrics and accented characters

2024-07-02 Thread Raphael Mankin
I have tried all sorts of things, but how do I get French accented characters in lyrics and markup? --

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