Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Turning the leaves of American hymnbooks, I can't see many > where space is saved just by combining voices. I don’t have time to do the same… but as I said, the spacing savings of combined voices is quite easy to demonstrate: SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.19.32" \new ChoirStaff

Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-19 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Sep 2016 at 15:52:06 (-0400), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Karlin, > > > what exactly causes the attraction to combined voices and > > the disaffection for separated voices? I'm not sure, but I'll try to answer. > > I think that answer is pretty good, and probably partly true. Related w

Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-19 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Sep 2016 at 19:16:16 (+), Karlin High wrote: > PS - Another American tradition is shaped notes, as in the Lilypond > \aikenHeads command. I think those want combining even more; the > attached PNG has an example. My own view here is that the 4th shaped note is a good example of wh

Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-17 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 17/09/16 00:05, Karlin High wrote: > On 9/16/2016 5:26 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: >> 2) How does the "American" style indicate when the voices cross? > > In short, it follows the "English" style until the cross-condition ceases. > > Here's an example that came to hand: > https://s3.amazonaws

Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-16 Thread Karlin High
On 9/16/2016 5:26 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: > 2) How does the "American" style indicate when the voices cross? In short, it follows the "English" style until the cross-condition ceases. Here's an example that came to hand: https://s3.amazonaws.com/wayne-hooper/quartet-arrangements/alltheway.pd

Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-16 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 16/09/16 20:52, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Karlin, > >> what exactly causes the attraction to combined voices and >> the disaffection for separated voices? I'm not sure, but I'll try to answer. > > I think that answer is pretty good, and probably partly true. Related would > be the argument

Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Karlin, > what exactly causes the attraction to combined voices and > the disaffection for separated voices? I'm not sure, but I'll try to answer. I think that answer is pretty good, and probably partly true. Related would be the argument that combined voices allow each part to more quickly g

Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-16 Thread Karlin High
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Beaming, partcombine and pickups Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 23:24:12 -0500 From: David Wright ...I'm not sure it's wise of me to ask what the attraction is of the American convention of part-combining... End Forward

Re: Beaming, partcombine and pickups

2016-09-16 Thread Rutger Hofman
On 09/16/2016 06:24 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 17:15:02 (-0600), David F. wrote: I have a song in 9/8 time with a pickup of three eighth notes. I expect Lilypond to beam those three eighth notes together, but it does not when I combine two voices with partcombine. Am I doi

Re: Beaming, partcombine and pickups

2016-09-15 Thread David Wright
On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 17:15:02 (-0600), David F. wrote: > I have a song in 9/8 time with a pickup of three eighth notes. I expect > Lilypond to beam those three eighth notes together, but it does not when I > combine two voices with partcombine. > > Am I doing something wrong? Is Lilypond doin

Beaming, partcombine and pickups

2016-09-15 Thread David F.
I have a song in 9/8 time with a pickup of three eighth notes. I expect Lilypond to beam those three eighth notes together, but it does not when I combine two voices with partcombine. Am I doing something wrong? Is Lilypond doing something wrong? How might I work around this? Thanks! David