Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I fully understand what you say, and similar symbols are used for >> singers, too, however, I think this somehow contradicts what >> lilypond is intended to do: engraving well-formatted music. It's >> not lilypond's job to imitate hand-written marks! In other words, >> I want to see some *pri

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-24 Thread Brian Barker
At 13:06 24/06/2014 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: It's not lilypond's job to imitate hand-written marks! In other words, I want to see some *printed* editions with such entries [sc. over bar lines] so that we can adjust lilypond accordingly, if necessary. In some Puccini scores, marks for poss

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-24 Thread Jay Anderson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > I fully understand what you say, and similar symbols are used for > singers, too, however, I think this somehow contradicts what lilypond > is intended to do: engraving well-formatted music. It's not > lilypond's job to imitate hand-written

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I can't believe that it doesn't affect spacing. As soon as you >> insert something visible into the score that has a timing value >> (and a breathing mark definitely has, if probably not specified >> exactly), it *must* take part of the horizontal formatting. You >> even give a hint how to pos

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-24 Thread James
On 24/06/14 08:13, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> - The mark generally doesn't affect the music spacing or beaming in >> any way. > I can't believe that it doesn't affect spacing. As soon as you insert > something visible into the score that has a timing value (and a > breathing mark definitely has, i

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> - The mark generally doesn't affect the music spacing or beaming in > any way. I can't believe that it doesn't affect spacing. As soon as you insert something visible into the score that has a timing value (and a breathing mark definitely has, if probably not specified exactly), it *must* ta

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-23 Thread Jay Anderson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:24 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > You don't say which frustration. You apparently want to have automatic > beams across breath marks. To me, that does not make a lot of sense. Sorry, I took out too much context from the original message. It's pretty common in horn music (

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-23 Thread David Kastrup
Jay Anderson writes: > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Thomas Morley > wrote: >> Well, nowadays we have the 'collision-interfaces-property but adding >> breathing-sign-interface to it seems to have no effect. >> >> \version "2.17.12" >> >> respectBS = { >> \override Beam #'collision-interfaces

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2014-06-23 Thread Jay Anderson
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > Well, nowadays we have the 'collision-interfaces-property but adding > breathing-sign-interface to it seems to have no effect. > > \version "2.17.12" > > respectBS = { > \override Beam #'collision-interfaces = > #'(beam-interface >

Re: BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2013-03-06 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/3/7 Nathan : > Hello, > > It says in the docs that \breathe interrupts automatic beams. FWIW, 2.12.3 didn't divide the beams. I didn't found a single point to apply, though. > How do I > override this behavior without resorting to manual beaming? > > In other words, I have something like the

BreathingSigns and automatic beams

2013-03-06 Thread Nathan
Hello, It says in the docs that \breathe interrupts automatic beams. How do I override this behavior without resorting to manual beaming? In other words, I have something like the following snippet: \relative c' { c8 d \breathe e f g f \breathe e d c d \breathe e f g f \breathe e d c1 } a