Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread David Rogers
Urs Liska writes: > But F flat _is_ different from E, especially in its relationship to > other, 'normal' keys. F flat has a quite simple relation to G flat > that might happen in real music. So I'm happy that LilyPond offers to > explicitely write it down instead of refusing to do things, _she_

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Hans Aberg
On 19 Sep 2012, at 18:42, Urs Liska wrote: >> Just write e-major and the musicans will be thankfull ;-). > But F flat _is_ different from E, especially in its relationship to other, > 'normal' keys. F flat has a quite simple relation to G flat that might happen > in real music. So I'm happy tha

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Mark Knoop
At 17:10 on 19 Sep 2012, Urs Liska wrote: >BTW it was also Schumann who stated that Chopin sometimes waited a few >chord progressions too long before writing the enharmonic change. Even Chopin chose C# minor rather than D-flat minor for the second section of Op 28 no 15. http://www.youtube.com/w

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
t - Von: David Rogers [mailto:davidandrewrog...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 06:18 PM An: Lilypond-user Betreff: Re: F-flat Key Signature keith Luke writes: Does anyone know why the flats appear our of order when the key signature is F-flat? I'm really only summarizi

AW: Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread michael.strebl
s but from the practical point of view its useless. Just write e-major and the musicans will be thankfull ;-). Kind regards Michael - Originalnachricht - Von: David Rogers [mailto:davidandrewrog...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 06:18 PM An: Lilypond-user Betreff: Re: F

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread David Rogers
keith Luke writes: > Does anyone know why the flats appear our of order when the key > signature is F-flat? I'm really only summarizing what's been said: that it's probably already correct, that it's probably a bad idea to use it, and that the score is truly unreadable with the size mismatch be

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2012 16:21, schrieb David Nalesnik: Hello, On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Vaughan McAlley wrote: I appreciate the difference between sharps & flats more than many musicians, but even I would introduce an enharmonic change rather than use a key signature with a double-flat, if only

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Vaughan McAlley
On 19 September 2012 21:11, Urs Liska wrote: > So like in a Fifo buffer the first accidentals (f sharp or b flat a.s.o.) > are bumped out -> the double accidentals go at the end. > Yes, it seems the order is correct, it just looks strange because I’ve never seen such a key signature ‘in the wild

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread David Nalesnik
Hello, On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Vaughan McAlley wrote: > I appreciate the difference between sharps & flats more than many > musicians, but even I would introduce an enharmonic change rather than > use a key signature with a double-flat, if only to save time at > rehearsal: > > “Where‘s

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2012 13:02, schrieb Mark Knoop: At 12:43 on 19 Sep 2012, Thomas Morley wrote: Image: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes-dur Theoretical text (in german): http://books.google.de/books?id=D6ZZFHIuQ54C&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&ots=oEy-27k2LK&dq=fes-dur&hl=de Interestingly, on the english wikipedia

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Mark Knoop
At 12:43 on 19 Sep 2012, Thomas Morley wrote: >Image: >http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes-dur >Theoretical text (in german): >http://books.google.de/books?id=D6ZZFHIuQ54C&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&ots=oEy-27k2LK&dq=fes-dur&hl=de Interestingly, on the english wikipedia page the B double flat is notated first,

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/9/19 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Martin Tarenskeen" > > To: "keith Luke" > Cc: "Lilypond-user" > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:03 AM > Subject: Re: F-flat Key Signature > > > >> >> >

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Martin Tarenskeen" To: "keith Luke" Cc: "Lilypond-user" Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: Re: F-flat Key Signature On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, keith Luke wrote: Does anyone know why the flats appear our of or

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, keith Luke wrote: Does anyone know why the flats appear our of order when the key signature is F-flat? Not an answer to your question, but why are the flats to big and don't fit the staff, making them hard to read ? -- MT __

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Phil Holmes
: keith Luke To: Lilypond-user Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:33 AM Subject: F-flat Key Signature Does anyone know why the flats appear our of order when the key signature is F-flat

F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread keith Luke
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