Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread Br. Samuel Springuel
On 2014-12-21 12:20 AM, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: As both cases have the same stem direction one has to be shifted. Usually if you want two voices you either give them separate staves, or give one the \voiceOne and the other the \voiceTwo appellations. Ah! I didn't notice this because

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread Urs Liska
Am 21.12.2014 um 18:00 schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel: On 2014-12-21 12:20 AM, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: As both cases have the same stem direction one has to be shifted. Usually if you want two voices you either give them separate staves, or give one the \voiceOne and the other the

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread Br. Samuel Springuel
The piece I'm typesetting is a modern chant Our Father that we use in our morning office. It's sung acapella and has a melody and harmony line. The lyrics, dynamics, and articulations are always in sync between the two parts, it's just that the harmony has a different note (effectively, the

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread Kevin Barry
Hi, Does the piece you are reproducing have two sets of articulations, both above the staff? I can't remember ever having seen that kind of notation before. If you want to remove the articulations from one voice you can add the following line to it (place it in the same block as the music,

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread Br. Samuel Springuel
On 2014-12-21 3:27 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: Does the piece you are reproducing have two sets of articulations, both above the staff? I can't remember ever having seen that kind of notation before. No, it has only one set of articulations, but they apply to both parts when they appear. If you

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread Urs Liska
Am 21. Dezember 2014 21:57:37 MEZ, schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel rpspring...@gmail.com: On 2014-12-21 3:27 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: Does the piece you are reproducing have two sets of articulations, both above the staff? I can't remember ever having seen that kind of notation before. No, it

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread Urs Liska
Am 21. Dezember 2014 21:09:23 MEZ, schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel rpspring...@gmail.com: The piece I'm typesetting is a modern chant Our Father that we use in our morning office. It's sung acapella and has a melody and harmony line. The lyrics, dynamics, and articulations are always in sync

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread peter
Br == Br Samuel Springuel rpspring...@gmail.com writes: Br On 2014-12-21 12:20 AM, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: As both cases have the same stem direction one has to be shifted. Usually if you want two voices you either give them separate staves, or give one the \voiceOne and the other the

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread Br. Samuel Springuel
On 2014-12-21 4:30 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Your irritation originates in the fact that you want to produce a score that*looks* like chords but is structurally a polyphonic setting. There's nothing wrong with this but it implies expecting some uncommon behaviour. Concretely you have to hide the

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-21 Thread James Harkins
peter at chubb.wattle.id.au writes: As an aside, dutch note names and \relative make data entry MUCH faster. See below (part 2). FWIW, English note names are shorter if you use f for flat and s for sharp: cs vs cis is 33% more efficient. I understand why some prefer the Dutch names, as you

First time Voices user

2014-12-20 Thread Br. Samuel Springuel
So, I'm trying out voices for the first time, switching a piece I had written using chords for single staff polyphony to using voices. In the process I have run into a couple of things I don't understand: 1) Some notes that don't collide (to my eye), are getting shifted as if they did. When

Re: First time Voices user

2014-12-20 Thread peter
Br == Br Samuel Springuel rpspring...@gmail.com writes: Br 1) Some notes that don't collide (to my eye), are getting shifted Br as if they did. When the same pair of notes are set as a chord, Br there is no shift. Clearly there's a difference between what Br lilypond considers a collision