Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-18 Thread Mark Polesky
u_li wrote: > That said, the original problem is basically not solved yet: > Is it possible to have a tremolo that doesn't repeat a pair of > notes for a regular number of times? Nobody said it needed to be elegant... - Mark * * * * * * * * \version "2.13.22" silent = #(make-dynamic-script "s")

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread u_li
Thanks Reinhold, that is very much what there is to it Am 09.05.2010 18:41, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Sonntag, 9. Mai 2010, um 17:04:12 schrieb Phil Holmes: OK - so the original author was being lazy by writing it as a shorthand. Actually, it's not so much about being lazy, but

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Sonntag, 9. Mai 2010, um 17:04:12 schrieb Phil Holmes: > OK - so the original author was being lazy by writing it as a shorthand. Actually, it's not so much about being lazy, but about telling the performer that are really only two notes involved. If you have 9 consecutive 8th notes, you'll n

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread u_li
l Holmes > > > - Original Message - > From: "u_li" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation > > >> >> I'm not exactly sure what you mean. >> Do you talk about t

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread Phil Holmes
PM Subject: Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Do you talk about the line below the left of the two empty note heads? Yes, that's a ledger line. There are no tremolo marks at all in the picture, but the second part of the bar is me

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread u_li
olmes > > > - Original Message - > From: "u_li" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:36 PM > Subject: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation > > >> >> Dear community, >> >> I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset w

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread Phil Holmes
I would have assumed that what you have taken as tremolo marks are actually leger lines - are you sure they're not? -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: "u_li" To: Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread u_li
Sorry Kieren, Now that I looked through your example more closely and understood what it does, I realized that it does the same as my \scaleDurations solution. So it still produces six prolonged triplets (i.e. six eights over the duration of three quarters) instead of nine triplets. So there is

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread u_li
Hi Kieren, many thanks for that. I'll have to go through it again to understand what you did, but apparently it works now! Please understand that I don't try to work my way through your first idea ... It's all quite complicated still ... Best Urs Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi Reinhold: > >

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread u_li
Thanks for the idea. I don't know If I had tried this before. But: While giving the correct optical representation, your solution only occupies 2 quarter notes instead of 3. Because I need 9 eights not six triplets. I didn't try Kieren's solutions yet (which I'll do afterwards), but while proces

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reinhold: > You should be able to achieve this with > \times 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 {cis8 g }} Nice! My solution was definitely less elegant. But yours causes a barcheck failure at that duration -- it still needs to be augmented to be durationally correct: \version "2.13.18" tupletStuff

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > Is there a way to produce such an irregular tremolo (ending on the initial > note)? I might suggest something like: \version "2.13.18" \layout { \context { \Score \override TupletBracket #'stencil = ##f \override TupletNumber #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 0.3) } } dlHalfOn

Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Sonntag, 9. Mai 2010, um 13:36:44 schrieb u_li: > I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond: > http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg > tremolonotation_2.jpg That's not an unusual tremolo, but rather a tremolo combined with a tuplet... You will have to wri

Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation

2010-05-09 Thread u_li
Dear community, I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond: http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg tremolonotation_2.jpg The first part of the bar shows the real notes, the second part the shorthand notation Webern used for the rest of the score. With \rep