Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I guess I was thinking it might be easier/clearer for documentation, > since people wouldn't have to search for "repeat tie" as opposed to > "laissez vibrer" to get the two different versions of what is > ultimately the same thing. The current git version of the NR has the index entries tie

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-07-28 6:29 am, David Kastrup wrote: \laissezvibrer might be an alias, though I am not sure whether it would not, in that function, be deserving of some tweaks giving it a longer minimal visual length. Isn't it also conventional to annotate it "l.v."? If we had a more general semi-tie c

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > There isn't much of an incentive to ever have the halftie direction > computed in any manner, so giving the user interface to them another > hoop does not seem to give any return to the user. Fair point… I guess I was thinking it might be easier/clearer for documentation, since peopl

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > >> I don't see why. They are halfties. > > So why not \halftie #LEFT and \halftie #RIGHT? > (i.e., they're both halfties, so just have a direction parameter) There isn't much of an incentive to ever have the halftie direction computed in any manner, so givin

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > I don't see why. They are halfties. So why not \halftie #LEFT and \halftie #RIGHT? (i.e., they're both halfties, so just have a direction parameter) Just a thought. Kieren.

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Hodges writes: > From: David Kastrup > There is also \startTrillSpan/\stopTrillSpan, \startGroup/\stopGroup, > \startGraceSlur/\stopGraceSlur, \startTextSpan/\stopTextSpan, > \startMeasureCount/\stopMeasureCount, > \startMeasureSpanner/\stopMeasureSpanner .  > > So there is a clear pa

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread Paul Hodges
From: David Kastrup There is also \startTrillSpan/\stopTrillSpan, \startGroup/\stopGroup, \startGraceSlur/\stopGraceSlur, \startTextSpan/\stopTextSpan, \startMeasureCount/\stopMeasureCount, \startMeasureSpanner/\stopMeasureSpanner .  So there is a clear pattern of \startItem and \endItem b

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 28/07/2022 16:25, David Kastrup wrote: >> There is also \startTrillSpan/\stopTrillSpan, \startGroup/\stopGroup, >> \startGraceSlur/\stopGraceSlur, \startTextSpan/\stopTextSpan, >> \startMeasureCount/\stopMeasureCount, >> \startMeasureSpanner/\stopMeasureSpanner . On t

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 28/07/2022 16:25, David Kastrup wrote: There is also \startTrillSpan/\stopTrillSpan, \startGroup/\stopGroup, \startGraceSlur/\stopGraceSlur, \startTextSpan/\stopTextSpan, \startMeasureCount/\stopMeasureCount, \startMeasureSpanner/\stopMeasureSpanner . On the opposite side, there is \endSpanne

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 28 juil. 2022 à 16:06, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > >  > > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 7:30 AM David Kastrup wrote: >> >> The current naming is a drag. >> >> "\repeatTie" and "\laissezvibrer" are a stupid combination of terms for >> the two different half ties you need to deal with in th

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 7:30 AM David Kastrup wrote: > >> >> The current naming is a drag. >> >> "\repeatTie" and "\laissezvibrer" are a stupid combination of terms for >> the two different half ties you need to deal with in the context of >> repeats or other visual non-l

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread Carl Sorensen
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 7:30 AM David Kastrup wrote: > > The current naming is a drag. > > "\repeatTie" and "\laissezvibrer" are a stupid combination of terms for > the two different half ties you need to deal with in the context of > repeats or other visual non-linearities. > I completely agree

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-28 Thread David Kastrup
Kenneth Wolcott writes: > Hi Hwaen and David; > > Thank you very much for your replies. > > It does solve the problem. > > I saw that command but, for some reason I did not think it applied > to my situation. The current naming is a drag. "\repeatTie" and "\laissezvibrer" are a stupid com

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-27 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi Hwaen and David; Thank you very much for your replies. It does solve the problem. I saw that command but, for some reason I did not think it applied to my situation. I will try to make a note of this so I don't ask this question again; I'll just have to consult my "gotcha" list. Ken

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-27 Thread David Wright
On Wed 27 Jul 2022 at 21:27:53 (-0700), Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > I must be missing something obvious here. > > The last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the > repeat. > > Lilypond 2.22.2 complains: > > La_Bamba.ly:67:40: warning: unterminated tie > r8 f''

Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?

2022-07-27 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
Greetings Ken, I wonder if this isn't a place for \laissezVibrer Hwaen Ch'uqi On 7/28/22, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > Hi; > > I must be missing something obvious here. > > The last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the > repeat. > > Lilypond 2.22.2 complains: > > La_