Re: Segmentation Fault in 2.18 (was Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?)

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Shann
I just came across a workaround for this LilyPond crash - adding \once \override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'transparent = ##t before the multi-measure rests in the second voice results in the typesetting finishing correctly. I came across this because I was getting the number printed twice in

Re: Segmentation Fault in 2.18 (was Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?)

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:27:53AM +, Richard Shann wrote: I just came across a workaround for this LilyPond crash - adding I have been getting very occasional segfaults with Lily since at least 2.17. I have never been able to create a minimal example because as soon as I change anything

Segmentation Fault in 2.18 (was Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?)

2014-02-01 Thread Richard Shann
On Thu, 2013-11-14 at 21:14 +0100, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: On 14.11.2013 16:19, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post my version later. Fantastic, thank you! :-) so, here is the version I regularly use ... in fact, this is

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. The duplicate rests section didn't register with my brain until a few seconds later. I certainly prefer the 2014 look more with the merging, for sure,

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/20 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. They noticed too ;-) http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/rolls-tremolos-jari-williamsson-and-finale-2014/

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb: 2013/11/20 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. They noticed too ;-)

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/20 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb: 2013/11/20 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. They noticed

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/11/20 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. They noticed too ;-)

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/20 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/11/20 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. They noticed too

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-15 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/11/15 Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl: Op Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:52:06 +0100 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org schreef: Hi all, this has just appeared: http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/quick-peeks-at-finale-2014-consolidate-rests/ and I think what they describe as inferior behaviour in

Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, this has just appeared: http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/quick-peeks-at-finale-2014-consolidate-rests/ and I think what they describe as inferior behaviour in Finale 2012 is (nearly) exactly what we have to do (OK, we don't have to manually drag rests to an appropriate place but let

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread flup2
It would be a great idea (although I haven't idea about the way to implement it into LilyPond). But I noticed how ugly the tremelo-notehead collision is, with Finale 2014 default settings ;-) Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Learn-from-Finale

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs, there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. To me it seems, that finale learned from lilypond ;) I adapted it and integrated it in my own always-to-load-extensions and use it in all my choral transcriptions. Best, Jan-Peter Am

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.11.2013 11:16, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hi Urs, there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. To me it seems, that finale learned from lilypond ;) I adapted it and integrated it in my own always-to-load-extensions and use it in all my

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.11.2013 11:08, schrieb Karl Hammar: Urs Liska: Does anybody have an idea how one could improve this situation for LilyPond? You have to be more specific, what is it you want ? I'm not wanting anything specific, just raise this issue. It seems that there already _is_ a solution, so

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread SoundsFromSound
- composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Learn-from-Finale-2014-seriously-tp153908p153918.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: But I often have to do things like { \voiceOne d'4 \oneVoice r \voiceOne d' } \new Voice { \voiceTwo d4 s d } For this purpose I once wrote a function: \dual { g'4 \rr4 g' } { d'4 s d' } -- Johan rr =

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/11/13 11:16, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. Please note that multi-measure rests are not automatically combined. In addition, it hardly matches the ease of the Sibelius/Finale features if the

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes: For this purpose I once wrote a function: rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur) (ly:duration?) #{ \oneVoice #(make-music 'RestEvent 'duration dur) \voiceOne #} ) rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur)

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Joseph, Am 14.11.2013 14:45, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: Please note that multi-measure rests are not automatically combined. there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post my version later. In addition, it hardly matches the ease of the Sibelius/Finale

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/11/13 15:05, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post my version later. Fantastic, thank you! :-) You're right, but I would take this as a proposal to add this as a standard command to lily. Yes, I agree. In fact for optimal

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur) (ly:duration?) #{ \tweak direction #CENTER r$dur #}) would seem saner. Thanks for the suggestion. I needed #{ \tweak #'direction #'CENTER r$dur #}) but it sure looks nice(r). Do you know

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur) (ly:duration?) #{ \tweak direction #CENTER r$dur #}) would seem saner. Thanks for the suggestion. I needed #{ \tweak #'direction #'CENTER

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Michael Rivers
I've always used Phil's solution (manually placing one rest and using s for the other), but, come to think of it, it would be nice for this to be done automatically. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Learn-from-Finale-2014-seriously-tp153908p153952.html

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Caio Barros
2013/11/14 Michael Rivers michaeljriv...@gmail.com I've always used Phil's solution (manually placing one rest and using s for the other), but, come to think of it, it would be nice for this to be done automatically. After typing a full orchestral movement and solving the merge problem with

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-11-14 um 23:26 schrieb Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net: I may be stating the obvious...but I've always used b4\rest (or whatever note position you want the rest) in one voice and s4 in the other voices. Not that elegant, but simple. But doesn’t that play the b4 in MIDI?

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net writes: Am 2013-11-14 um 23:26 schrieb Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net: I may be stating the obvious...but I've always used b4\rest (or whatever note position you want the rest) in one voice and s4 in the other voices. Not that elegant, but

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:52:06 +0100 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org schreef: Hi all, this has just appeared: http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/quick-peeks-at-finale-2014-consolidate-rests/ and I think what they describe as inferior behaviour in Finale 2012 is (nearly) exactly what we have to