Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Original-Nachricht Thomas Scharkowski t.scharkowski at t-online.de writes: (without quotes) is missing at the end of your code. It's more likely that your mail reader interpreted as a quoted line and didn't show it to you. The final came through just fine for me. Hi

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Urs, I realise that now! Thanks. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Sunday, April 14, 2013, 7:33:21 PM, you wrote: Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye: - BTW, I recommend using Frescobaldi instead of Lilypad:

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Thomas, I think it's there. It's not easy to distinguish between the in the Lilypond code and the in the mailing list quotes! But it now seems to be working - I'm not sure why! Don't understand your comment about R1 - I'm following the learning manual which uses r for rests. Best regards,

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Urs Liska
Am 15.04.2013 10:34, schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Newbie problems Urs, I realise that now! Thanks. Not at all! I think it's one of our tasks on this list to keep new users from giving up on LilyPond ;-) Urs Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com http://www.ptoye.com

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
I've realised that there's a silly problem here, which isn't Lilypond's fault. One really needs two different defaults for opening a .ly file: one to edit it (Lilypad, Frescobaldi etc.) and one to engrave it (Lilypond). And Microsoft, curse them, in Windows 7 and later removed the possibility

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Phil Holmes
Subject: Re: Newbie problems I've realised that there's a silly problem here, which isn't Lilypond's fault. One really needs two different defaults for opening a .ly file: one to edit it (Lilypad, Frescobaldi etc.) and one to engrave it (Lilypond). And Microsoft, curse them, in Windows 7

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Wim van Dommelen
On 15 Apr 2013, at 08:09 , Thomas Scharkowski wrote: Original-Nachricht Thomas Scharkowski t.scharkowski at t-online.de writes: (without quotes) is missing at the end of your code. It's more likely that your mail reader interpreted as a quoted line and didn't show it

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread James Harkins
Peter: R is for full measure rests. Very likely, the examples from the Learning Manual to which you refer contain shorter rests, less than a full bar's duration. For them, indeed you should use r, which prints a normal rest symbol according to the rhythmic value. Full-bar rests should appear with

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Subject: Re: Newbie problems I've realised that there's a silly problem here, which isn't Lilypond's fault. One really needs two different defaults for opening a .ly file: one to edit it (Lilypad, Frescobaldi etc.) and one to engrave it (Lilypond). And Microsoft, curse them, in Windows 7 and later

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Phil Holmes
10:30 AM Subject: Re: Newbie problems Phil, The obvious thing would (IMHO) seem to be to add right-click menu items for .ly files. Edit goes to Lilypad (or Frescobaldi etc), Engrave goes to Lilypond. All with suitable arguments in the command lines. Unfortunately, since MS withdrew

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
that far into Microsoft and Windows 7. I was asking for documentation tweak suggestions. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: Federico Bruni ; lilypond-user Mailinglist Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Newbie problems Phil

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Urs, Now downloaded it, but it won't work properly - I get: Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.16.2 [Warlock1.ly]... Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. Please check path and permissions. when I try to engrave. Is this the place to ask about Frescobaldi problems, or should I go to their mailing

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Urs Liska
Am 15.04.2013 11:56, schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Newbie problems Urs, Now downloaded it, but it won't work properly - I get: Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.16.2 [Warlock1.ly]... Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. Please check path and permissions. when I try to engrave. Is this the place

RE: Newbie Problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Gentry
I always use R*3/4*1 the 1 can be replaced by the number of bars rest you want - 3/4 is the time signtaure. You also need \set Score.skipBars = ##t if more than one bars rest. R*x/y*n is better than any rn because the whole bar rest is centered in the bar Learning Lilypond is easy at first

RE: Newbie Problems - oops spot the deliberate mistake

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Gentry
I always use R1*3/4*1 the 1 can be replaced by the number of bars rest you want - 3/4 is the time signtaure. You also need \set Score.skipBars = ##t if more than one bars rest. R1*x/y*n is better than any rn because the whole bar rest is centered in the bar Learning Lilypond is easy at first

Re: Newbie Problems - oops spot the deliberate mistake

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Gentry peter.gen...@sunscales.co.uk writes: I always use R1*3/4*1 the 1 can be replaced by the number of bars rest you want - 3/4 is the time signtaure. You also need \set Score.skipBars = ##t if more than one bars rest. R1*x/y*n is better than any rn because the whole bar rest is

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Thank you all very much for your help. It's not the most intuitive user interface (or should that be language?), and I've only been trying it out for a few hours, so I'm coming up with all sorts of silly issues. One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the documentation.

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Noeck
It is annoying, but part of our digital life. I don't think we will ever get rid of this, get used to it. That's why I deviate from the usual indentation for this mailing list and put an extra space in front of the and signs (or I add additional intent of one space): \relative c' { c d

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Shane Brandes
Searching yields far more benefits than wasted time. You will tangentially touch upon all manner of other really useful abilities in Lilypond when looking for something you are after. And as Mr. Kastrup pointed out, if you simply Google something it is helpful to include the version number you are

Re: [Spam??] Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Peter Toye wrote Monday, April 15, 2013 3:48 PM One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the documentation. As with all language systems,. you spend an awful lot of time searching. With well over 1000 pages I guess that's not too surprising. The index is not

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Paul Morris
On Apr 15, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com wrote: One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the documentation. As with all language systems,. you spend an awful lot of time searching. I have had good luck searching the Notation Reference index page

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Wim van Dommelen
Hi Joram, But that alone doesn't always work, some email programs jump in, they see this extra indentation and patch it. So when you send out a nicely fit message, my email program (standard/default Apple OS X mail) scrambles it (and if needed again). Not a problem for me, but as you

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Rogers
Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com writes: Thank you all very much for your help. It's not the most intuitive user interface (or should that be language?), and I've only been trying it out for a few hours, so I'm coming up with all sorts of silly issues. One problem I'm having is that it's not

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com writes: Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com writes: Thank you all very much for your help. It's not the most intuitive user interface (or should that be language?), and I've only been trying it out for a few hours, so I'm coming up with all sorts of silly

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Rogers
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away. No need to reserve additional space for the info manual. You're right - I didn't think of that, because I didn't have Emacs when I started using Lilypond. I still haven't made the switch, though I would

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away. No need to reserve additional space for the info manual. You're right - I didn't think of that, because I didn't have Emacs when I started using

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Nick Payne
On 16/04/13 01:00, Paul Morris wrote: On Apr 15, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com wrote: One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the documentation. As with all language systems,. you spend an awful lot of time searching.

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/4/15 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the documentation. As with all language systems,. you spend an awful lot of time searching. Some search tips: 1. use the index of each manual and search the best keywords that come to

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Rogers
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: It would likely be worth it to have an Emacs window open just for reading the documentation... (... Good point; I'll reserve a space for it on my desktop...) :) -- David R ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: It would likely be worth it to have an Emacs window open just for reading the documentation... (... Good point; I'll reserve a space for it on my desktop...) :) Be sure to make yourself acquainted with info

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread James Harkins
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes: When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away.No need to reserve additional space for the info manual. Because C-x b is the most fun in the world... Frescobaldi has a tabbed panel to the right, which displays the generated PDF by default. The other

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes: David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes: When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away.No need to reserve additional space for the info manual. Because C-x b is the most fun in the world... Uh, no? C-h i goes to info, q exits it again but

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread James Harkins
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes: FWIW, I started out by using emacs to edit my Lilypond files, but found problems. Auto-indentation was hit or miss, and the auto-completion dictionary has some major gaps. Uh, it is generated from LilyPond's own source files, so you should probably

Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Toye
Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in getting to work at all. The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. 1) Double-clicking on a .ly file gets into Wordpad, and doesn't compile the file. To compile it I have to drag-and-drop the file onto the Lilypond icon on

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/4/14 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in getting to work at all. The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. which version of lilypond? 1) Double-clicking on a .ly file gets into Wordpad, and doesn't compile the

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com schrieb: 2013/4/14 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in getting to work at all. The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. which version of lilypond? 1) Double-clicking on a .ly file

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com schrieb: 2013/4/14 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in getting to work at all. The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. which version of lilypond? 1) Double-clicking on a .ly file

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Toye
- Sunday, April 14, 2013, 1:44:33 PM, you wrote: Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com schrieb: 2013/4/14 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in getting to work at all. The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hi Peter, (without quotes) is missing at the end of your code. Also, I recommend using R1 instead of r1. Thomas Original-Nachricht - Sunday, April 14, 2013, 1:44:33 PM, you wrote: Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com schrieb: 2013/4/14 Peter

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Newbie problems - BTW, I recommend using Frescobaldi instead of Lilypad: http://frescobaldi.org/download Is this the right place to be recommending a rival product? I'll have a look. Thanks. It's not a rival product

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Newbie problems - Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com schrieb: I think that you have to associate the .ly extension with Lilypad. That would seem to be the case. It's the sort of thing I'd expect the installation routine

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com writes: BTW, I recommend using Frescobaldi instead of Lilypad: http://frescobaldi.org/download Is this the right place to be recommending a rival product? I'll have a look. Thanks. It's not a rival product. Lilypad is just an add-on packaged with LilyPond on

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Phil Holmes
- From: Urs Liska To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Newbie problems Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye: - Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com schrieb: I think that you have to associate the .ly

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/4/14 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de: I think that you have to associate the .ly extension with Lilypad. That would seem to be the case. It's the sort of thing I'd expect the installation routine to do automatically. Yes, indeed. Could someone else on Windows check this and send a

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
, but then it should be clearly documented. Urs -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Urs Liska To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Newbie problems Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread James Harkins
Thomas Scharkowski t.scharkowski at t-online.de writes: (without quotes) is missing at the end of your code. It's more likely that your mail reader interpreted as a quoted line and didn't show it to you. The final came through just fine for me. Also, I recommend using R1 instead of r1.

Re: Newbie problems with chordnames

2004-06-10 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Wolfgang Mechsner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. In a piano score I would like to have the chordnames above the staff not below the staff. 2. I have no success with \set ChordNames.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(0 . 0) (tried out many numbers) to change the space of the chordnames to the

Newbie problems with chordnames

2004-06-08 Thread Wolfgang Mechsner
1. In a piano score I would like to have the chordnames above the staff not below the staff. 2. I have no success with \set ChordNames.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(0 . 0) (tried out many numbers) to change the space of the chordnames to the staff. Wolfgang -- URL www.wolfgang-mechsner.de

RE: Newbie problems with chordnames

2004-06-08 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Doesn't this work? \score { \new ChordNames \chords { c:1 } \new PianoStaff \new Staff \notes { c } \new Staff \notes { c } } Or do you mean between the staves? 1. In a piano score I would like to have the