Re: Piano pedal gradual release

2019-11-30 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 7:40 AM Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the > > dampers are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a binary > > choice. > > That’s not true: the amount of pressure applied by the

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

2019-11-30 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Phil, > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the dampers > are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a binary choice. That’s not true: the amount of pressure applied by the dampers — from 100% to 0% — is graduated (based on how much gravity is

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

2019-11-30 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 30. Nov. 2019 um 11:50 Uhr schrieb Andrew Bernard : > I don't write this stuff, I am merely the harmless drudge that tries to > engrave it! [...] > I have seen other composers write the same thing also. I think > it's a type of modernist composer shared delusion. > > The things we

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

2019-11-30 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 30. Nov. 2019 um 01:20 Uhr schrieb Andrew Bernard : > > I wonder if it is possible to indicate piano pedal gradual release off, > and gradual on, using curves? Please refer to attached shots of MS. > > We have been able to do great things with pedal lines before in respons

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

2019-11-30 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am Samstag, 30 Nov 2019 10:24:30 - schrieb Phil Holmes: > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the > dampers are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a > binary choice. So a gradual release simply makes the time the sustain > ends somewhat

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

2019-11-30 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Phil, I don't write this stuff, I am merely the harmless drudge that tries to engrave it! Although I think it's somewhat stupid, I will say, speaking as somebody who has made harpsichords most of my life, and messed around with many keyboard instruments, it is possible to hear very,

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

2019-11-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Andrew Bernard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:20 AM Subject: Piano pedal gradual release I wonder if it is possible to indicate piano pedal gradual release off, and gradual on, using curves? Please refer to attached shots of MS. We

Re: Pedal gradual release

2019-01-22 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
Greetings Aaron, This is very exciting what you are doing! I have nothing to offer but encouragement. As a professional pianist, I can tell you that the technique is hardly new. As a composer who loves LilyPond, the ability to at last achieve this pedal marking with a degree of flexibility is

Re: Pedal gradual release

2019-01-22 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Aaron, This would be great to go in the openlilylib library when ready, Thanks for your help. I am sure that once available, many people will use this. It can go alongside my pedal decoration code there (down with the help of several others). Pedals have been somewhat neglected in lilypond,

Re: Pedal gradual release

2019-01-22 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-01-20 5:16 am, Andrew Bernard wrote: Hi Aaron, What we really want is a lovely curved bezier spline! I appreciate your suggestion, but I personally would rather code PostScript than hack hairpins to be pedal dynamics. I went through all that when I tried to do this by hijacking text

Re: Pedal gradual release

2019-01-20 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-01-20 5:16 am, Andrew Bernard wrote: Hi Aaron, What we really want is a lovely curved bezier spline! I appreciate your suggestion, but I personally would rather code PostScript than hack hairpins to be pedal dynamics. I went through all that when I tried to do this by hijacking text

Re: Pedal gradual release

2019-01-20 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-01-20 4:28 am, Aaron Hill wrote: One option would be to exploit a Hairpin: sustainGradualRelease = -\tweak shorten-pair #'(0 . 1.35) -\tweak height #1 -\tweak style #'dashed-line -\tweak self-alignment-Y #DOWN -\tweak to-barline ##f -\tweak stencil #(elbowed-hairpin

Re: Pedal gradual release

2019-01-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Aaron, What we really want is a lovely curved bezier spline! I appreciate your suggestion, but I personally would rather code PostScript than hack hairpins to be pedal dynamics. I went through all that when I tried to do this by hijacking text spanners, and it was never satisfactory. The

Re: Pedal gradual release

2019-01-20 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-01-20 3:04 am, Andrew Bernard wrote: I use a wedge type symbol to indicate gradual release of a piano pedal. Since this is not built in to lilypond, I developed code like the following to do the job, using PostScript. I don't mind using PostScript as I am fluent in it, but objectively,

Re: Pedal gradual release

2019-01-20 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 1/20/19, Andrew Bernard wrote: > generalise this and make it more user friendly I assume you know about this example: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=698 My instinct would be to print the sustainPedal brackets normally, and then hack the Sostenuto pedal stencil (in bracket mode as well so

Pedal gradual release

2019-01-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
#"0.15 setlinewidth [0.3] 0 setdash 0 setlinecap 6 -1.3 moveto 10.2 0.15 2 div add 2 rlineto currentpoint stroke moveto 0.15 setlinewidth [] 0 setdash 0 -2.2 rlineto stroke" } s s s s s\sustainOff } \markup { "Pedal gradual release example" } \score { \new

Piano pedal gradual release

2017-03-05 Thread Andrew Bernard
Is there any support for pedal gradual release when using line and bracket style where the gradual release ends in a sustain pedal off event? I am aware that for a sustain on/sustain off event you can simply use bracket flare settings, but in this case I need to influence the segment to the end