Patch/issue procedures (was: Randomness in layout)

2015-08-22 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: [Patch] Maybe put it up on Rietveld and post a pointer on bug-lilypond? Even when it does not make all that much sense to create a new Google issue for it, my original suggestion to post patch series to bug-lilypond while we are transitioning

Re: Patch/issue procedures (was: Randomness in layout)

2015-08-22 Thread David Nalesnik
David, On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 2:24 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: [Patch] Maybe put it up on Rietveld and post a pointer on bug-lilypond? Even when it does not make all that much sense to create a new Google issue for it, my

Re: Patch/issue procedures (was: Randomness in layout)

2015-08-22 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:00 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: David, On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 2:24 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: [Patch] Maybe put it up on Rietveld and post a pointer on bug-lilypond? Even when it

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 21.08.2015 um 10:13 schrieb Sharon Rosner: Hi all, I have a question that is both general and specific. Is there a way to automatically introduce a bit of randomness into the way different objects are layed-out in Lilypond? Specifically, I’m trying to find a way to make slurs look more

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 21.08.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Malte Meyn: I think that it should be possible to redefine ( to tweak every slur with some randomness. Here you go: %%% \version 2.19.25 ( = #(define-event-function () () #{ \single \override Slur.eccentricity = #(* 0.5 (random:normal))

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread David Kastrup
tisimst tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: On 8/21/2015 5:40 AM, Andrew Bernard [via Lilypond] wrote: ... I am sorry this is not the technical answer you require, but part of your answer is that lilypond can't irregularise (I am going to make this a new word) scores, out of the box, as it

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 21.08.2015 um 20:31 schrieb Nathan Ho: On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:16 AM, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote: Am 21.08.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Malte Meyn: I think that it should be possible to redefine ( to tweak every slur with some randomness. Here you go: You can also do

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread tisimst
On 8/21/2015 5:40 AM, Andrew Bernard [via Lilypond] wrote: ... I am sorry this is not the technical answer you require, but part of your answer is that lilypond can't irregularise (I am going to make this a new word) scores, out of the box, as it stands now. Andrew and Sharon, et al, To

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Nathan Ho
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:16 AM, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote: Am 21.08.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Malte Meyn: I think that it should be possible to redefine ( to tweak every slur with some randomness. Here you go: You can also do \relative { \override Slur.eccentricity = #(lambda

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread tisimst
On 8/21/2015 4:14 PM, David Nalesnik-2 [via Lilypond] wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:37 PM, David Kastrup [hidden email] /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=179907i=0 wrote: tisimst [hidden email] /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=179907i=1 writes: On 8/21/2015 5:40

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Sharon Rosner
Hi all and thanks for your replies, I’d just like to clarify that my intention is not to undo the excellent music setting capabilities of lilypond, but rather to introduce a tiny amount of irregularity, or “grain”, in order to try to reproduce that feel that you get in old editions, or even

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:37 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: tisimst tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: On 8/21/2015 5:40 AM, Andrew Bernard [via Lilypond] wrote: There was one oddity I encountered in the process, though. When I irregularized the flags, I noticed that a flag is

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-08-21 21:37 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: tisimst tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: On 8/21/2015 5:40 AM, Andrew Bernard [via Lilypond] wrote: ... I am sorry this is not the technical answer you require, but part of your answer is that lilypond can't irregularise (I am going to

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Sharon, This opens up a topic of deep interest. I would have to say, as somebody earnestly trying to come to terms with serious lilypond programming and the scheme interfaces, you would be better off buying a dozen HB pencils. but all joking aside, the beauty of tools like lilypond is

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Malte, This is exactly what the OP requested. Although admirable technically, aesthetically, to me, with the clash between the precision engraving and the slurs, it looks disturbing, and erroneous. Just my two cents worth - it’s a topic I have been musing on for a long time. And lilypond is

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread David Nalesnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:18 PM, tisimst tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/2015 4:14 PM, David Nalesnik-2 [via Lilypond] wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:37 PM, David Kastrup [hidden email] http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=179907i=0 wrote: tisimst [hidden email]

Re: Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread David Nalesnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:56 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: See attached patch. (Try it out with Harm's function attached above.) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Randomness in layout

2015-08-21 Thread Sharon Rosner
Hi all, I have a question that is both general and specific. Is there a way to automatically introduce a bit of randomness into the way different objects are layed-out in Lilypond? Specifically, I’m trying to find a way to make slurs look more “hand-drawn” by slightly changing eccentricity,