Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-04 Thread Paul Scott
On 5/4/20 2:10 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: On 2020-05-04 08:14, Valentin Villenave wrote: On 5/3/20, Paul Scott wrote: Out of simple curiosity what is the purpose of the \compressMMRests { } structure rather than the \set or \override action I would think of? I'm guessing \compressMMRests does

Re: Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 5/4/20, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > What was the rationale to recommend (and only mention) \compressMMRests > instead of \compressEmptyMeasures in > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.21/Documentation/notation/writing-rests#full-measure-rests? Well, precisely the fact that \compressEmptyMeasures is

Re: Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 2020-05-04 08:14, Valentin Villenave wrote: On 5/3/20, Paul Scott wrote: Out of simple curiosity what is the purpose of the \compressMMRests { } structure rather than the \set or \override action I would think of? I'm guessing \compressMMRests does \set \unset or \override \revert pairs.

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-04 Thread Paul Scott
Thank you for this, Valentin. On 5/3/20 11:14 PM, Valentin Villenave wrote: On 5/3/20, Paul Scott wrote: Out of simple curiosity what is the purpose of the \compressMMRests { } structure rather than the \set or \override action I would think of? I'm guessing \compressMMRests does \set \unset

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 5/3/20, Paul Scott wrote: > Out of simple curiosity what is the purpose of the \compressMMRests { } > structure rather than the \set or \override action I would think of? > I'm guessing \compressMMRests does \set \unset or \override \revert pairs. As you can see if you open the

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
On 5/3/20 12:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Paul Scott writes: David, Thank you for all that you do!! On 5/3/20 5:40 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Paul Scott writes: I installed 2.19.84 and I believe I just answered the first question below:  Apparently \compressFullBarRests has been deleted

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Scott writes: > David, > > Thank you for all that you do!! > > On 5/3/20 5:40 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Paul Scott writes: >> >>> I installed 2.19.84 and I believe I just answered the first question >>> below:  Apparently \compressFullBarRests has been deleted from Lily >>> and now we

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
David, Thank you for all that you do!! On 5/3/20 5:40 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Paul Scott writes: I installed 2.19.84 and I believe I just answered the first question below:  Apparently \compressFullBarRests has been deleted from Lily and now we have \compressMMRests which has different

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
features in 2.22 since 2.20 Thanks again, Paul -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: "Paul Scott" To: "Phil Holmes" ; "Lilypond-User Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 10:50 AM Subject: Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRest

Re: Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 2020-05-03 11:25, Paul Scott wrote: Phil, To make sure we're on the same page is \compressMMRests the same as \compressFullBarRests which doesn't seem to exist any more? If \compressMMRests is intended to replace or rename \compressFullBarRests then I have been using it in a common or

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Thomas Morley
Am So., 3. Mai 2020 um 14:41 Uhr schrieb David Kastrup : > > Paul Scott writes: > > > I installed 2.19.84 and I believe I just answered the first question > > below: Apparently \compressFullBarRests has been deleted from Lily > > and now we have \compressMMRests which has different

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Scott writes: > I installed 2.19.84 and I believe I just answered the first question > below:  Apparently \compressFullBarRests has been deleted from Lily > and now we have \compressMMRests which has different functionality. > > I guessing convert-ly won't handle this and that any time I

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
I installed 2.19.84 and I believe I just answered the first question below:  Apparently \compressFullBarRests has been deleted from Lily and now we have \compressMMRests which has different functionality. I guessing convert-ly won't handle this and that any time I want to redo any of my

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
Just to save anyone trouble I just found where older versions of Lily are kept. Paul On 5/3/20 2:25 AM, Paul Scott wrote: Phil, To make sure we're on the same page is \compressMMRests the same as \compressFullBarRests which doesn't seem to exist any more? If \compressMMRests is intended

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
Phil, To make sure we're on the same page is \compressMMRests the same as \compressFullBarRests which doesn't seem to exist any more? If \compressMMRests is intended to replace or rename \compressFullBarRests then I have been using it in a common or timing definition for hundreds of pieces

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Phil Holmes
FYI the example you give: timing = { \compressMMRests s1*28 \bar "|." } PartA = { R1*4 R1*24 } PartAComplete = << \timing \PartA >> \score{ \new Staff \new Voice \PartAComplete } Does not compress the rests in any 2.19 version. There would seem to be a number of reasons. The << >> brackets

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
Thank you for your reply, David. On 5/2/20 4:06 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 02 May 2020 at 14:10:44 (-0700), Paul Scott wrote: Now I have tried it with no improvement. But you don't show us what you ran. Also,  the whole point of \timing is to not to have stuff in or before the parts

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-02 Thread David Wright
On Sat 02 May 2020 at 14:10:44 (-0700), Paul Scott wrote: > Now I have tried it with no improvement. But you don't show us what you ran. > Also,  the whole point of \timing is to not to have stuff in or before > the parts which can all be in one function (timing or common).  As I > said I have

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-02 Thread Paul Scott
Thank you for replying, Pierre. Now I have tried it with no improvement. Also,  the whole point of \timing is to not to have stuff in or before the parts which can all be in one function (timing or common).  As I said I have been using this idea for many years and now the behavior seems to

Re: 2.21.1 change of behavior of \compressMMRests?

2020-05-02 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Paul, Have you tried: PartAComplete = << \timing \compressMMRests \PartA >> HTH, cheers, Pierre Le sam. 2 mai 2020 à 22:02, Paul Scott a écrit : > The following MWE is a variation of the first code example in 2.21.1 > Notation manual 1,2,2 Full Measure > Rests: > > % Rest measures contracted