Re: (OT) Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-06-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 01.06.2018 21:03, J Martin Rushton wrote: That's what is so nice with Lily, ASCII text is pretty future proof. LilyPond reads UTF-8 source files, but I guess that’s practically equally future proof, isn’t it? Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user

(OT) Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-06-01 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 01/06/18 14:43, David Kastrup wrote: > Nicholas Bailey writes: > >> On Friday, 25 May 2018 22:09:31 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: >>> On 25/05/18 10:52, Nicholas Bailey wrote: On Sunday, 22 April 2018 12:26:01 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: > What is the current state of play for

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Nicholas Bailey writes: > On Friday, 25 May 2018 22:09:31 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: >> On 25/05/18 10:52, Nicholas Bailey wrote: >> > On Sunday, 22 April 2018 12:26:01 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: >> >> What is the current state of play for converting between Sibelius and >> >> Lily? >> >> >>

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-06-01 Thread Amy McGlothlin
I was just going to suggest MuseScore. Honestly, it’s my go to for importing random file types and exporting to XML Sent from my iPad > On Jun 1, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Nicholas Bailey > wrote: > >> On Friday, 25 May 2018 22:09:31 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: >>> On 25/05/18 10:52, Nicholas

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-06-01 Thread Nicholas Bailey
On Friday, 25 May 2018 22:09:31 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: > On 25/05/18 10:52, Nicholas Bailey wrote: > > On Sunday, 22 April 2018 12:26:01 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: > >> What is the current state of play for converting between Sibelius and > >> Lily? > >> > >> My elder son uses Sib at

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-05-25 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 25/05/18 10:52, Nicholas Bailey wrote: > On Sunday, 22 April 2018 12:26:01 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: >> What is the current state of play for converting between Sibelius and Lily? >> >> My elder son uses Sib at university, but has to travel in (40 miles) to >> log into one of their machines.

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-05-25 Thread Nicholas Bailey
On Sunday, 22 April 2018 12:26:01 BST J Martin Rushton wrote: > What is the current state of play for converting between Sibelius and Lily? > > My elder son uses Sib at university, but has to travel in (40 miles) to > log into one of their machines. I run Lily/Frescobaldi at home and it > would

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread Karlin High
On 4/23/2018 3:28 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: 2018-04-23 20:04 GMT+02:00 Karlin High: Thomas Morley posted code once for auto-generating a sight-reading worksheet. I did? Can't remember. Do you have a link? Oh! Sorry! It was David Nalesnik.

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread David Kastrup
J Martin Rushton writes: > Something similar occurs in other fields as well. Some years ago I > mentioned to a "PC expert" in a retail chain that the OS I used was > Linux. "Oh I've heard of that" he said brightly, then in a > condescending voice "Linux is what

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-04-23 20:04 GMT+02:00 Karlin High : > Thomas Morley posted code once for > auto-generating a sight-reading worksheet. I did? Can't remember. Do you have a link? Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 23/04/18 11:36, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > I appreciate that many musicians may not like the cryptic text-based entry > of LilyPond, but: > As universities totally rely on Finale/Sibelius and often don't even know of > LilyPond, it's no wonder LilyPond has a hard time. > In former times,

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Karlin, > maybe this would be an opportunity for LilyPond, in software specific to > music courses? Thomas Morley posted code once for auto-generating a > sight-reading worksheet. If the reverse was possible - read pitches and > durations from a LilyPond file, analyze and possibly grade for

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread Karlin High
On 4/23/2018 9:53 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: They had assignments that were to be done in Sibelius, because they could automatically grade the Sibelius files. That is, it was a method for providing known information, rather than seeing what music was created. Unfortunately, the same could be

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/23/18, 3:02 AM, "Richard Shann" wrote: You can take the portable version of Denemo on a USB stick and run the program anywhere (well, I just tried the public library), so you wouldn't have to try to transfer the file format. Since Denemo is only

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
David Kastrup wrote > Is he majoring in music or in Sibelius? I think that is the key question. If it was about music, they may even submit hand-written scores (which is not a bad thing at all!). And LilyPond produces PDF files everybody can use. Maybe I'm getting old, but in my day and age,

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Sun, 2018-04-22 at 18:13 +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > > > On 22/04/18 17:43, David Kastrup wrote: > > J Martin Rushton writes: > >  > >> Thanks all for the suggestions. > >> > >> Ben: I think he is required to use Sibelius at University that > appears > >>

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread David Kastrup
Aaron Hill writes: > On 2018-04-22 14:22, David Kastrup wrote: > >> How would you know? Have you read the 20+ pages of the Windows 10 >> privacy agreement? Or do you just assume? > > I thought you may have been a little hyperbolic, so I checked > Microsoft's web site

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-04-22 14:22, David Kastrup wrote: Martin Tarenskeen writes: On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, David Kastrup wrote: Martin Tarenskeen writes: Adobe, Microsoft, Avid...too many to count. Clever indeed. In an evil way. Let's not forget creating

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 22/04/18 22:22, David Kastrup wrote: > Martin Tarenskeen writes: > >> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> Martin Tarenskeen writes: >>> > Adobe, Microsoft, Avid...too many to count. > > Clever indeed. > > In an

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread David Kastrup
Martin Tarenskeen writes: > On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Martin Tarenskeen writes: >> Adobe, Microsoft, Avid...too many to count. Clever indeed. In an evil way. >>> >>> Let's not forget creating and

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, David Kastrup wrote: Martin Tarenskeen writes: Adobe, Microsoft, Avid...too many to count. Clever indeed. In an evil way. Let's not forget creating and selling software is a tough business. These companies all need to survive against the

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" <m...@philholmes.net> writes: > - Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" <d...@gnu.org> > To: "Martin Tarenskeen" <m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl> > Cc: <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Phil Holmes
, April 22, 2018 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius On 4/22/2018 12:06 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. Ben: I think he is required to use Sibelius at University that appears to be all that they have. When he was still at school the same applied. Whilst

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" <d...@gnu.org> To: "Martin Tarenskeen" <m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl> Cc: <lilypond-user@gnu.org> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius Martin Tarenskeen <m.tarensk

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread David Kastrup
Martin Tarenskeen writes: >> Adobe, Microsoft, Avid...too many to count. >> >> Clever indeed. >> >> In an evil way. > > Let's not forget creating and selling software is a tough > business. These companies all need to survive against the competition > and they need to

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Adobe, Microsoft, Avid...too many to count. Clever indeed. In an evil way. Let's not forget creating and selling software is a tough business. These companies all need to survive against the competition and they need to make some serious money. By selling good products. And by being

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread David Kastrup
J Martin Rushton writes: > On 22/04/18 17:43, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Still doesn't work with my notions of authority and respect for >> learning but then I'll readily admit to them being sort-of >> nonstandard. Though I would not call them unreasonable. > >

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Ben
On 4/22/2018 1:13 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: Still doesn't work with my notions of authority and respect for learning but then I'll readily admit to them being sort-of nonstandard. Though I would not call them unreasonable. Hmm, but Avid are being clever though. Let Joe public have a cut

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 22/04/18 17:46, Ben wrote: > On 4/22/2018 12:06 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: >> Thanks all for the suggestions. >> >> Ben: I think he is required to use Sibelius at University that appears >> to be all that they have. When he was still at school the same applied. >> Whilst it would be nice if

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 22/04/18 17:43, David Kastrup wrote: > J Martin Rushton writes: > >> Thanks all for the suggestions. >> >> Ben: I think he is required to use Sibelius at University that appears >> to be all that they have. > > Is he majoring in music or in Sibelius? If the

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Ben
On 4/22/2018 12:06 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. Ben: I think he is required to use Sibelius at University that appears to be all that they have. When he was still at school the same applied. Whilst it would be nice if the uni offered other products, I suspect

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread David Kastrup
J Martin Rushton writes: > Thanks all for the suggestions. > > Ben: I think he is required to use Sibelius at University that appears > to be all that they have. Is he majoring in music or in Sibelius? If the former, he should be able to hand in score sheets

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread J Martin Rushton
Thanks all for the suggestions. Ben: I think he is required to use Sibelius at University that appears to be all that they have. When he was still at school the same applied. Whilst it would be nice if the uni offered other products, I suspect the learning curve for the staff would be too steep

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread arnepe
if your son is ok with the upcoming new version of "Sibelius | First" - that one is announced to be free of charge but will be restricted to four staves. cheers Arne -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, J Martin Rushton wrote: What is the current state of play for converting between Sibelius and Lily? My elder son uses Sib at university, but has to travel in (40 miles) to log into one of their machines. I run Lily/Frescobaldi at home and it would be useful to be able

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Phil Holmes" <m...@philholmes.net> To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org>; "J Martin Rushton" <martinrushto...@btinternet.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius - Original Message -

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "J Martin Rushton" To: Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 12:26 PM Subject: Lilypond <-> Sibelius What is the current state of play for converting between Sibelius and Lily? My elder son uses Sib at

Re: Lilypond <-> Sibelius

2018-04-22 Thread Ben
On 4/22/2018 7:26 AM, J Martin Rushton wrote: What is the current state of play for converting between Sibelius and Lily? My elder son uses Sib at university, but has to travel in (40 miles) to log into one of their machines. I run Lily/Frescobaldi at home and it would be useful to be able to