Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
[lots of discussion about LilyPond vs other notation software] Hi people, it seems that i've missed an important discussion. After reading it (and reading comments on the Steinberg blog), i decided to add my comment in the form of a blog post:

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-14 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Janek, Very interesting post, thanks! Typo: algorythmic JM Le 14 août 2013 à 10:54:17, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com a écrit : [lots of discussion about LilyPond vs other notation software] Hi people, it seems that i've missed an important discussion. After reading it

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-14 Thread Andrew Bernard
An absolutely marvellous typo in our particular context. :-) Andrew Jacques Menu 14 August 2013 7:25 PM Typo:algorythmic ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Lol, indeed! Thanks for letting me know, Jacques! Corrected. Janek 2013/8/14 Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com An absolutely marvellous typo in our particular context. :-) Andrew Jacques Menu jacques.m...@tvtmail.ch 14 August 2013 7:25 PM Typo: algorythmic

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-09 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 08.08.2013 14:09, schrieb David Kastrup: Well, if enough people only slightly overstep a line, it will disappear. I think it would make sense to expand on most followup thoughts in our own blog, once they can't be expected to be of much interest to Daniel. While he will be able to answer

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 04:29, schrieb SoundsFromSound: Thoughts? http://blog.steinberg.net/2013/08/development-diary-part-two/?fb_source=pubv1 For now just one: Let's see if Kieren's comments on the post provoke _any_ response. Anybody ready to write a post on lilypondblog.org about polymetrics,

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread SoundsFromSound
I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. As a former SCORE user, personally I can't possibly imagine /ever /going back now that I've tried LilyPond. There truly is just no comparison. Period. With LilyPond, you're only limited by your

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 10:35, schrieb SoundsFromSound: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. As a former SCORE user, personally I can't possibly imagine /ever /going back now that I've tried LilyPond. There truly is just no comparison. Period. With

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
SoundsFromSound writes: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. Yes, it could be very interesting to know why comments about Lilypond are ignored. The blog did inspire me a little bit, we could add two new glyphs to the feta font that have

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 11:06, schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen: SoundsFromSound writes: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. Yes, it could be very interesting to know why comments about Lilypond are ignored. The blog did inspire me a little bit, we

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Urs Liska writes: And I think that adding text input as an option (if it is thoroughly thought through) would be a great step forward for the resulting program. Aren't they talking about keyboard entry, instead of text input? Text input is about the storage format. Most wordprocessors have

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 11:11, schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen: Urs Liska writes: And I think that adding text input as an option (if it is thoroughly thought through) would be a great step forward for the resulting program. Aren't they talking about keyboard entry, instead of text input? Text input is

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 11:08, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 08.08.2013 11:06, schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen: SoundsFromSound writes: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. Yes, it could be very interesting to know why comments about Lilypond are ignored. The

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
I'm not that surprised. During the last few years I became something nerd-like. After beeing a Mac-User for a long time, I now only use Ubuntu or Debian and all its related tools for my everyday work. So for me using lilypond is a quite natural thing and I am getting better and quicker using

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: SoundsFromSound writes: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. Yes, it could be very interesting to know why comments about Lilypond are ignored. Maybe because some people don't comment on

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 12:47, schrieb David Kastrup: Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: SoundsFromSound writes: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. Yes, it could be very interesting to know why comments about Lilypond are ignored. Maybe

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread David Kastrup
SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com writes: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. Frankly, if I were Daniel, I'd be pissed already. I think he is perfectly correct to remind people that his blog is not the place for LilyPond

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 13:13, schrieb David Kastrup: SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com writes: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. Frankly, if I were Daniel, I'd be pissed already. I think he is perfectly correct to remind people that

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Richard Shann
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:06:36 +0200 Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote: If I import some musicXML the virtual instruments sound much better than the standard midi output of either timidity or mac-quicktime. Isn't this just a question of which soundfont is bundled? We distribute Denemo with

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 08.08.2013 14:02, schrieb Richard Shann: On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:06:36 +0200 Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote: If I import some musicXML the virtual instruments sound much better than the standard midi output of either timidity or mac-quicktime. Isn't this just a question of which

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 08.08.2013 13:13, schrieb David Kastrup: He does have misconceptions about LilyPond, but his blog is not the place to address them. Yes, that's unfortunate, but please behave like one would expect guests to behave. We are not doing our case a

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 14:08, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 08.08.2013 14:02, schrieb Richard Shann: On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:06:36 +0200 Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote: If I import some musicXML the virtual instruments sound much better than the standard midi output of either timidity or

high-quality audio output from Lilypond (was Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software)

2013-08-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, What could be useful however (I don't know _anything_ about it) would be to add a chapter to the documentation talking about how to get high-quality audio output from/through LilyPond, referencing useful free soundfonts or whatever is useful to get this to work. Agreed. I have

Re: high-quality audio output from Lilypond (was Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software)

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 15:19, schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Urs, What could be useful however (I don't know _anything_ about it) would be to add a chapter to the documentation talking about how to get high-quality audio output from/through LilyPond, referencing useful free soundfonts or whatever is

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net writes: On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:06:36 +0200 Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote: If I import some musicXML the virtual instruments sound much better than the standard midi output of either timidity or mac-quicktime. Isn't this just a question of

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 8, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote: I'm not that surprised. During the last few years I became something nerd-like. After beeing a Mac-User for a long time, I now only use Ubuntu or Debian and all its related tools for my everyday work. So for me using

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Brian Barker
At 10:32 08/08/2013 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: I use LibreOffice because the default operation for text is fine. If I was writing out complex math equations, it'd be a different story. Surely not: you'd use LibreOffice's Math facility! Brian Barker

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 17:40, schrieb Brian Barker: At 10:32 08/08/2013 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: I use LibreOffice because the default operation for text is fine. If I was writing out complex math equations, it'd be a different story. Surely not: you'd use LibreOffice's Math facility! Brian Barker

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net To: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software Similarly LilyPond is probably not the most appropriate tool for most people

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread David Kastrup
Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net writes: On Aug 8, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote: I'm not that surprised. During the last few years I became something nerd-like. After beeing a Mac-User for a long time, I now only use Ubuntu or Debian and all its related tools for

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread luis jure
on 2013-08-08 at 14:16 Urs Liska wrote: What could be useful however (I don't know _anything_ about it) would be to add a chapter to the documentation talking about how to get high-quality audio output from/through LilyPond, referencing useful free soundfonts or whatever is useful to get

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.08.2013 18:05, schrieb luis jure: on 2013-08-08 at 14:16 Urs Liska wrote: What could be useful however (I don't know _anything_ about it) would be to add a chapter to the documentation talking about how to get high-quality audio output from/through LilyPond, referencing useful free

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread Tim Reeves
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 01:35:47 -0700 (PDT) From: SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software Message-ID: 1375950947119-148848.p...@n5.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread SoundsFromSound
I agree. That's the main reason why I chose to write that comment on this mailing list vs. his blog post ;) David Kastrup wrote SoundsFromSound lt; soundsfromsound@ gt; writes: I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. Frankly, if I

Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software

2013-08-08 Thread SoundsFromSound
@ Subject: Re: Steinberg's progress report on new notation software Message-ID: 1375950947119-148848.post@.nabble Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm surprised that no one else in those comments responded to any of the LilyPond mentions. As a former SCORE user, personally I