Re: Settings for automatic beam slope

2015-12-08 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi David, Thanks. That’s a very illuminating article from Mr Spreadbury. I gather, then, that beam-quanting is the method used by lilypond to achieve the cardinal rule of Ross: "The placement of a beam follows the cardinal rule that when it falls within the staff, its ends must either sit [on]

Re: Settings for automatic beam slope

2015-12-07 Thread David Wright
On Tue 08 Dec 2015 at 12:34:55 (+1100), Andrew Bernard wrote: [...] > On the same topic, I have come across references to beam-qaunting, with no > explanation of what it is. Is this something to do with beams having to touch > staff lines? What is it exactly? Is this what is causing the flat beams

Re: Settings for automatic beam slope

2015-12-07 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello All, I have only recently begun setting some Early Baroque keyboard music (1592) and it is full to the brim of phrases which are ornaments, 8 sixteenths beamed together. This is very typical, and pervasive. Suddenly I am noticing that the majority of the beaming comes out flat. I have fo

Re: Settings for automatic beam slope

2015-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Simon, thank you for that, I think this is really helpful. I think I see a pattern. This doesn't *completely* explain everything but quite a lot. Obviously the decision depends on whethere there are none, one or more notes outside the staff (outside in this context beginning with the notehead

Re: Settings for automatic beam slope

2015-11-20 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, I made a test suite, which shows quite peculiar results: – The problem typically appears with at least 7 (‘II’ series) or 9 (‘I’ series) notes under one beam, but sometimes also with 3 notes (ex. II and IIc) – In each example, the problem occurs only for one of the voices. I couldn’t ye

Re: Settings for automatic beam slope

2015-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.11.2015 um 12:19 schrieb Andrew Bernard: > Hi Urs, > > Im my work I set almost every beam manually (fiddly and time > consuming, but worthwhile). Well, the usual discussion of automatic engraving. Of course we hope that one day LilyPond will simply produce perfect output. But OTOH "perfect

Re: Settings for automatic beam slope

2015-11-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Urs, Im my work I set almost every beam manually (fiddly and time consuming, but worthwhile). Some useful functions I wrote: setBeamPos = #(define-music-function (left right) (number? number?) "Manually set beam position for next group." #{ \once \override Beam.positions = #(cons

Settings for automatic beam slope

2015-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
I have a question regarding beam slopes. Consider the first of the attached images where the long beam is quite ugly IMO. I would prefer to have the beam sloped similarly to the shorter ones at the beginning at the example, something like shown in the second attachment. (Eventually it should look