Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, > The current examples present the minimum information necessary to demonstrate > the feature. > This follows lilypond's approach, which is to invent everything needed that > you didn't specify, like books, scores, staves, time signatues, clefs, > barlines, etc. This *is* a potential frust

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-26 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> From: Kieren MacMillan > Subject: Re: Understanding Lilypond > > Hi Peter, > > > many of us have struggled for many months to get to grips with the > structure and philosophy of Lilypond. > > 1. Regarding the structure, what are you struggling with exactly? > &g

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-17 Thread Urs Liska
Am 17.01.2015 um 17:22 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Peter, I'm not sure that my response is suitable for the list It *definitely* is! Please feel free to critisize scorn or otherwise flame. I’m sorry your default expectation is to be critisized, scorned, or flamed — that hasn’t been my p

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-17 Thread Paul Morris
m... It would be interesting and maybe helpful to develop such a typology of common techniques. What have I left out above? (Also, my sense is that LilyPond may or may not have the kind of systematic consistency that some are looking for?) Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilyp

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, > I'm not sure that my response is suitable for the list It *definitely* is! > Please feel free to critisize scorn or otherwise flame. I’m sorry your default expectation is to be critisized, scorned, or flamed — that hasn’t been my primary experience on this list (as a newbie more th

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-17 Thread Mattes
Am Samstag, 17. Januar 2015 14:13 CET, Richard Shann schrieb: > actually, Scheme syntax is incredibly simple - Scheme expressions are > lists (a b c) with the first element being the procedure and the > subsequent ones the parameters. So if you come across (if a b) you look > up the procedu

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-17 Thread Urs Liska
Am 17.01.2015 um 14:13 schrieb Richard Shann: On Sat, 2015-01-17 at 13:37 +0100, Urs Liska wrote: Concretely I see the problem in a sequence of related issues: - Scheme itself *is* difficult to get into actually, Scheme syntax is incredibly simple - Scheme expressions are lists (a b c) with t

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-17 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2015-01-17 at 13:37 +0100, Urs Liska wrote: > Concretely I see the problem in a sequence of related issues: > > - Scheme itself *is* difficult to get into actually, Scheme syntax is incredibly simple - Scheme expressions are lists (a b c) with the first element being the procedure and the

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-17 Thread Urs Liska
way to interact with LilyPond through Scheme is quite obscure (and that's where better documentation would be needed most IMO) Urs -Original Message- From: Kieren MacMillan [mailto:kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 9:40 PM To: Peter Gentry Cc: Lilypond-Us

RE: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-17 Thread Peter Gentry
sts to reduce the feeling of being lost in a sea of hieroglyphs. >-Original Message- >From: Kieren MacMillan [mailto:kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca] >Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 9:40 PM >To: Peter Gentry >Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List >Subject: Re: Understanding

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-16 Thread Noeck
Dear David, as a small addition and a partly similar answer to Urs’, I think the point is: LilyPond tries to suggest (or even enforce as a default) conventions of classic music notation. This comprises for example that clefs are repeated for each line but the time signature isn’t. In your case, t

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, > many of us have struggled for many months to get to grips with the structure > and philosophy of Lilypond. 1. Regarding the structure, what are you struggling with exactly? 2. Regarding the philosophy, what are you struggling with exactly? Hope I can help! Kieren.

RE: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-16 Thread Peter Gentry
>Just let me repeat something I wrote a number of times here. >If you manage to understand something with the help of this >list that you think could be a not-so-uncommon issue for many >please consider sharing your experience with a (little or big) >tutorial, for which we have always "free sp

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-16 Thread Urs Liska
"Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Understanding Lilypond (David Sumbler) 2. Re:Re:bottom of EPS output cut off (+ size of PDF files) (Jayaratna) 3. Re:small caps (tisimst) 4. Re:Understanding Lilypond

RE: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-16 Thread Peter Gentry
email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >specific than "Re: C

Re: Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.01.2015 um 13:35 schrieb David Sumbler: As I start to gain experience in setting music in Lilypond I am trying to understand more about how it works internally. As well as personal satisfaction, this obviously has a practical aim: it will make it easier for me to modify or correct things

Understanding Lilypond

2015-01-16 Thread David Sumbler
As I start to gain experience in setting music in Lilypond I am trying to understand more about how it works internally. As well as personal satisfaction, this obviously has a practical aim: it will make it easier for me to modify or correct things without having to ask so many questions on this f

Re: Understanding Lilypond language

2014-04-06 Thread Paul Morris
now what I mean? -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Understanding-Lilypond-language-tp161270p161321.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Understanding Lilypond language

2014-04-06 Thread Harald Christiansen
Hello David, Many thanks for your reply. :-) I was giving the variable example as a kind of difficulty I have. I appreciate the "fish" you are giving to me but I want to learn "how to fish" :-) For example you say "Because \layout { ... } is not a music expression but rather an output definitio

Re: Understanding Lilypond language

2014-04-06 Thread David Kastrup
Harald Christiansen writes: > Hello, > > Is there a manual for the lilypond language itself ? > > I don't get it ... is it a programming language ... a macro expander ... > all of the above ? It is a dynamically typed language. Not much programming in the language itself, but a Scheme layer cat

Understanding Lilypond language

2014-04-06 Thread Harald Christiansen
Hello, Is there a manual for the lilypond language itself ? I don't get it ... is it a programming language ... a macro expander ... all of the above ? I cannot build a mental model of how it works. For example, let's take variables. I take the notation reference, I look at the index and I see