Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-20 Thread David Kastrup
"GRAEME F ST CLAIR" writes: > Somewhat late reply - being married (and retired), if we aren't in > *my* Dr's office, we're in hers... > > I don't think the Emacs I recovered was all that problematic - it's > 22.3 and I only acquired it in the Spring. Then you should change your source. The 22.x

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-20 Thread Tim Roberts
GRAEME F ST CLAIR wrote: > Certainly didn't mean to start a discussion of editors! It is a sure-fire way to start a conversation. Editors are like underwear. Everyone has their favorite brand, the choice is very personal, and you'll never convince someone in a rational argument to switch brands.

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-20 Thread GRAEME F ST CLAIR
Somewhat late reply - being married (and retired), if we aren't in *my* Dr's office, we're in hers... I don't think the Emacs I recovered was all that problematic - it's 22.3 and I only acquired it in the Spring. But it was the fearful array of ctrl+this and alt+that in the tutorial that per

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers writes: > I don't believe there is any good reason for a non-programmer to be > using anything other than Unicode (usually as UTF-8, but whichever way > the particular system wants to handle Unicode) for day-to-day > things. The limitations of ASCII made perfect sense, in 1976. Last

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-19 Thread David Rogers
David Kastrup writes: Nick Payne writes: On 19/10/11 05:09, GRAEME F ST CLAIR wrote: General reply to Messrs Rogers, Peekay and Kastrup! In the end I googled lilypond and found the \char approach myself. Right now, I'm settling for it, because as DK hints, both TextPad and jEdit will sa

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> "GRAEME F ST CLAIR" writes: >> >>> Well, I plowtered (Scottish word) around with jEdit, but didn't get >>> much where, so I recovered a Windows Emacs from backup, that I'd >>> never got round to trying, installed it and got exactly nowhere >>>

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-18 Thread David Rogers
David Kastrup writes: "GRAEME F ST CLAIR" writes: Well, I plowtered (Scottish word) around with jEdit, but didn't get much where, so I recovered a Windows Emacs from backup, that I'd never got round to trying, installed it and got exactly nowhere with that either - like vi, "It's a Unix th

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
"GRAEME F ST CLAIR" writes: > Well, I plowtered (Scottish word) around with jEdit, but didn't get > much where, so I recovered a Windows Emacs from backup, that I'd never > got round to trying, installed it and got exactly nowhere with that > either - like vi, "It's a Unix thang, I wouldn't under

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-18 Thread GRAEME F ST CLAIR
Well, I plowtered (Scottish word) around with jEdit, but didn't get much where, so I recovered a Windows Emacs from backup, that I'd never got round to trying, installed it and got exactly nowhere with that either - like vi, "It's a Unix thang, I wouldn't understand"... Then I looked up edito

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Nick Payne writes: > On 19/10/11 05:09, GRAEME F ST CLAIR wrote: >> General reply to Messrs Rogers, Peekay and Kastrup! >> >> In the end I googled lilypond and found the \char approach myself. >> Right now, I'm settling for it, because as DK hints, both TextPad >> and jEdit will save UTF-8 just f

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-18 Thread Nick Payne
On 19/10/11 05:09, GRAEME F ST CLAIR wrote: General reply to Messrs Rogers, Peekay and Kastrup! In the end I googled lilypond and found the \char approach myself. Right now, I'm settling for it, because as DK hints, both TextPad and jEdit will save UTF-8 just fine, but the next time you open

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-18 Thread GRAEME F ST CLAIR
General reply to Messrs Rogers, Peekay and Kastrup! In the end I googled lilypond and found the \char approach myself. Right now, I'm settling for it, because as DK hints, both TextPad and jEdit will save UTF-8 just fine, but the next time you open the file, you see mysterious blobs, not the

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers writes: > In very general terms, it shouldn't be right to be "mangling" > encodings by hand in *any* kind of project. It should be possible to > find an encoding that does the job correctly the first time. That's > what computers are for... It is actually rather hard for an editor t

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-17 Thread Peekay Ex
Graeme On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:17 PM, GRAEME F ST CLAIR wrote: > I'm trying to include an o-umlaut in the header, so:- > > \header { >  title = "Blah Blah" >  poet = "Words: Aloysius Schlör" > > but all I get is "Schlr" with some error msgs, s I use this method poet = \markup { \concat { "Wo

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-17 Thread David Rogers
"GRAEME F ST CLAIR" writes: Like I said - "simple" - the editor is Textpad under Windows 7, and it has an "encoding" save option of "UTF-8"... Job done, thank you. I had trouble with UTF encoding in an earlier little project (SQL & PHP), and ended up using raw data in ANSI, then mangling

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-17 Thread GRAEME F ST CLAIR
Like I said - "simple" - the editor is Textpad under Windows 7, and it has an "encoding" save option of "UTF-8"... Job done, thank you. I had trouble with UTF encoding in an earlier little project (SQL & PHP), and ended up using raw data in ANSI, then mangling it as it went through. So I'd

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-17 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 10/17/2011 05:17 PM, GRAEME F ST CLAIR wrote: > I'm trying to include an o-umlaut in the header, so:- > > \header { > title = "Blah Blah" > poet = "Words: Aloysius Schlör" > > but all I get is "Schlr" with some error msgs, so:- The input files are expected to be in UTF-8 encoding. From t

Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-17 Thread GRAEME F ST CLAIR
I'm trying to include an o-umlaut in the header, so:- \header { title = "Blah Blah" poet = "Words: Aloysius Schlör" but all I get is "Schlr" with some error msgs, so:- Preprocessing graphical objects... programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming. Skipping glyph U+