Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 2023-01-29 18:19, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: Am 29.01.23 um 17:54 schrieb David Kastrup: Valentin Petzel writes: Hello David, in most cases definitely, but I suppose

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Petzel writes: >> The lower voice could not possibly be autobeamed anyway since it starts >> behind the beat. You need to add all of the skips manually, and I don't >> think that adding the single beam you want would be enough effort to >> warrant autobeaming. > > Why would this be so?

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
> The lower voice could not possibly be autobeamed anyway since it starts > behind the beat. You need to add all of the skips manually, and I don't > think that adding the single beam you want would be enough effort to > warrant autobeaming. Why would this be so? Lilypond does not have issues

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Lukas-Fabian Moser writes: > Am 29.01.23 um 17:54 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Valentin Petzel writes: >> >>> Hello David, >>> >>> in most cases definitely, but I suppose there might be some cases in >>> say piano music where something like this would make sense. >> I'd say that proportion seems

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Am 29.01.23 um 17:36 schrieb Valentin Petzel: Hello David, in most cases definitely, but I suppose there might be some cases in say piano music where something like this would make sense. Additionally, Schenker graphs would be an obvious example where beaming over skips is useful. (But of

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Lukas-Fabian Moser writes: > Am 29.01.23 um 17:54 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Valentin Petzel writes: >> >>> Hello David, >>> >>> in most cases definitely, but I suppose there might be some cases in >>> say piano music where something like this would make sense. >> I'd say that proportion seems

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Am 29.01.23 um 17:54 schrieb David Kastrup: Valentin Petzel writes: Hello David, in most cases definitely, but I suppose there might be some cases in say piano music where something like this would make sense. I'd say that proportion seems low enough that providing automatisms for it is

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Petzel writes: > Hello David, > > in most cases definitely, but I suppose there might be some cases in > say piano music where something like this would make sense. I'd say that proportion seems low enough that providing automatisms for it is more likely to cause confusion than help.

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello David, in most cases definitely, but I suppose there might be some cases in say piano music where something like this would make sense. Valentin Am Sonntag, 29. Jänner 2023, 15:37:23 CET schrieb David Kastrup: > Beaming over skips seems like it would produce incomprehensible results.

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Petzel writes: > Hello Werner, > > I felt it a bit inconsistent to make rests optionally auto beamable > and to leave skips untouched ... Beaming over skips seems like it would produce incomprehensible results. -- David Kastrup

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Mark Knoop
At 10:27 on 29 Jan 2023, Valentin Petzel wrote: > Hello Werner, > this would not be hard to get done. Here’s an experimental commit: > https://gitlab.com/vpetzel/lilypond/-/commit/5267b574d27316b7c5d45080b32200dabc5d37dc[1] > Using this test: > { > c'8 d' r e' r f' g' r | r r r a' b' s s

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Veeery nice, thanks! I only wonder what situation you envision to >> add a special property for skips... > > \version "2.24.0" > > \new Staff \relative > << >   { c'8[ s s c] } >   \\ >   { s c c s } >>> > > doesn't seem unreasonable to me (for example in piano music). OK, thanks.

Re: autobeaming over rests, Re: autobeaming over rests, Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Werner, Am 29.01.23 um 11:30 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: IMHO, there are definitely valid situations where automatic beaming over rests does make sense. this would not be hard to get done. Here’s an experimental commit: [...] Veeery nice, thanks! I only wonder what situation you envision to

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > IMHO, there are definitely valid situations where > > automatic beaming over rests does make sense. > > this would not be hard to get done. Here’s an experimental commit: > [...] Veeery nice, thanks! I only wonder what situation you envision to add a special property for skips...

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
clusively a saltarello-like > >> rhythm: > >> > >> > >> > >> ``` > >> \time 6/8 d8[ r d] d[ r d] > >> ``` > >> > >> > >> > >> I now wonder whether it makes sense to control this b

Re: autobeaming over rests,Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> ``` >> >> I now wonder whether it makes sense to control this behaviour with >> a property, and whether this behaviour (i.e., autobeaming over >> rests) can be easily implemented at all... > > Depending on how regular this actually is, you might be able to do >

Re: autobeaming over rests

2023-01-19 Thread Jean Abou Samra
whether it makes sense to control this behaviour with a property, and whether this behaviour (i.e., autobeaming over rests) can be easily implemented at all... Depending on how regular this actually is, you might be able to do something like \version "2.24.0" \new Voice <<  

autobeaming over rests

2023-01-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
this behaviour with a property, and whether this behaviour (i.e., autobeaming over rests) can be easily implemented at all... Werner