2008/12/29 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
Neil Puttock wrote Monday, December 29, 2008 1:25 PM
2008/12/29 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
OK - have this in hand. Thanks.
Trevor, I'm working on some additions to 'bound-details in
changing-defaults.itely at the moment. When
Neil Puttock Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:45 PM
2008/12/29 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
Neil Puttock wrote Monday, December 29, 2008 1:25 PM
2008/12/29 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
OK - have this in hand. Thanks.
Trevor, I'm working on some additions to
Am 29.12.2008 um 06:26 schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
However, there are situations where you don't have access to the
mailing list, and then you have to find it in the docs. Can you
suggest where improvements shall be added so that your specific
problem is covered?
Well then I'd have to say that
James E. Bailey wrote Monday, December 29, 2008 8:23 AM
Am 29.12.2008 um 06:26 schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
However, there are situations where you don't have access to the
mailing list, and then you have to find it in the docs. Can you
suggest where improvements shall be added so that your
2008/12/29 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
OK - have this in hand. Thanks.
Trevor, I'm working on some additions to 'bound-details in
changing-defaults.itely at the moment. When I've finished, I'll add
some info to the section which discusses 'outside-staff-priority.
As for the general
Neil Puttock wrote Monday, December 29, 2008 1:25 PM
2008/12/29 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
OK - have this in hand. Thanks.
Trevor, I'm working on some additions to 'bound-details in
changing-defaults.itely at the moment. When I've finished, I'll add
some info to the section
Am 28.12.2008 um 06:48 schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
Oh, perhaps I haven't made this clear. I have read the learning
manual. I do not have it memorised. I don't use extra offset all
that often. I asked for help because the ways I know of how to move
the object, (namely looking in the IR for
Once I learned about outside staff-priority, everything was good.
Which for me is the usual situation: I get unexpected output, and
then learn that there's a perfectly acceptable reason for that
output. In this case: outside-staff-priority takes precedence over
avoid-slur. The learning
Am 29.12.2008 um 00:17 schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
Once I learned about outside staff-priority, everything was good.
Which for me is the usual situation: I get unexpected output, and
then learn that there's a perfectly acceptable reason for that
output. In this case: outside-staff-priority takes
However, there are situations where you don't have access to the
mailing list, and then you have to find it in the docs. Can you
suggest where improvements shall be added so that your specific
problem is covered?
Well then I'd have to say that the easiest, and easiest to find
thing
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 06:26:41AM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Sounds sensible. Can you cook up a small example which
demonstrates the effect you've sought? We can easily add it to
the documentation then.
Ideally add it directly to LSR; this greatly simplifies the
process of getting it into
Am 27.12.2008 um 01:07 schrieb Graham Percival:
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:01:19AM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
he still omitted the easiest part of helping which could have
simple been, \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'( 0.0 . -5.0),
instead of the wonderful instruction in how to
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:37:35AM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 27.12.2008 um 01:07 schrieb Graham Percival:
Of course I omitted that. You're assumed to have read the
Learning Manual. In particular, LM 4.5.1 and 4.5.2.
So wait, the most useful piece of information, the piece of
2008/12/27 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:37:35AM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 27.12.2008 um 01:07 schrieb Graham Percival:
Of course I omitted that. You're assumed to have read the
Learning Manual. In particular, LM 4.5.1 and 4.5.2.
So wait, the
Am 27.12.2008 um 19:37 schrieb Graham Percival:
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:37:35AM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 27.12.2008 um 01:07 schrieb Graham Percival:
Of course I omitted that. You're assumed to have read the
Learning Manual. In particular, LM 4.5.1 and 4.5.2.
So wait, the
Oh, perhaps I haven't made this clear. I have read the learning
manual. I do not have it memorised. I don't use extra offset all
that often. I asked for help because the ways I know of how to move
the object, (namely looking in the IR for things that might control
positioning the object,
I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property.
This doesn't work:
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
c2*1/2( s4^\markup {\natural} d4.) c8
}
In fact, it increases the space between the slur and the notes, but
doesn't move
james wrote:
I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property. This
doesn't work:
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
c2*1/2( s4^\markup {\natural} d4.) c8
}
In fact, it increases the space between the slur and the notes, but
Am 26.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
james wrote:
I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property.
This doesn't work:
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
c2*1/2( s4^\markup {\natural} d4.) c8
}
In fact, it increases
James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 26.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
james wrote:
I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property.
This doesn't work:
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
c2*1/2( s4^\markup {\natural} d4.) c8
}
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Am Freitag, 26. Dezember 2008 14:33:11 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 26.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
james wrote:
I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property.
This doesn't work:
\version
On 26.12.2008 (15:06), Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
If so then I'd just use d!4. instead.
No, it was common practice to put accidentals above notes in older times.
Sometimes these were meant to be optional, sometimes they were cautinary
accidentals. In any case, if you try to be close to the
Hi James,
2008/12/26 James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com:
No, I want the natural under the slur. Which I what I thought inside did.
You'll have to turn off 'outside-staff-priority for TextScript, since
it takes precendence over 'avoid-slur.
\override TextScript
2008/12/26 james derhindem...@googlemail.com:
I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property. This
doesn't work:
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
c2*1/2( s4^\markup {\natural} d4.) c8
}
What's the musical sense of this?
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 03:50:46PM +0100, Eyolf ?strem wrote:
On 26.12.2008 (15:06), Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
If so then I'd just use d!4. instead.
No, it was common practice to put accidentals above notes in older times.
Sometimes these were meant to be optional, sometimes they were
Neil, thanks for the help, now I guess I move on to the next part of
this problem:
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
\override Script #'avoid-slur = #'inside
\override TextScript #'script-priority = #-100
\override TextScript
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 09:46:07PM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
Neil, thanks for the help, now I guess I move on to the next part of
this problem:
What's the problem?
By that question, I mean what's the musical intent of that
lilypond code?. Because to me, it looks like you're trying to
In the meantime, I figured out another solution: I can just do
everything in markup, and set the baseline skip myself.
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
\override TextScript #'outside-staff-priority = ##f
c2*1/2( s4^\markup \tiny \override
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Am Freitag, 26. Dezember 2008 21:46:07 schrieb James E. Bailey:
Neil, thanks for the help, now I guess I move on to the next part of
this problem:
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
\override
Am 26.12.2008 um 17:57 schrieb Graham Percival:
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 03:50:46PM +0100, Eyolf ?strem wrote:
On 26.12.2008 (15:06), Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
If so then I'd just use d!4. instead.
No, it was common practice to put accidentals above notes in
older times.
Sometimes these
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 11:40:12PM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 26.12.2008 um 17:57 schrieb Graham Percival:
To everybody apart from Eyolf who posted in this thread: musica
ficta can be found through a see also link under NR 1.1
Accidentals,
Perhaps you have a different version of the
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Am Freitag, 26. Dezember 2008 23:40:12 schrieb James E. Bailey:
Am 26.12.2008 um 17:57 schrieb Graham Percival:
To everybody apart from Eyolf who posted in this thread: musica
ficta can be found through a see also link under NR 1.1
Accidentals,
Am 26.12.2008 um 23:59 schrieb Graham Percival:
Well, first start off with a simple example:
\version 2.11.65
\relative c'' {
c4(
\once \set suggestAccidentals = ##t
cis d4.) c8
}
Hmm, it prints an error message. It would be helpful to report
this to the bug list.
You know, I
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:01:19AM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
he still omitted the easiest part of helping which could have
simple been, \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'( 0.0 . -5.0),
instead of the wonderful instruction in how to properly use lilypond.
Of course I omitted that.
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