Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-29 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - From: Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com To: bobr...@centrum.is Cc: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de, lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:51:41 AM Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 07:45:51PM +, bobr...@centrum.is

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:55:07 PM Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 A naive question: Could the \cadenzaOff command be changed in a way that it automatically implies the end

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Jim Long
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 07:45:51PM +, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: - Original Message - From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de A naive question: Could the \cadenzaOff command be changed in a way that it automatically implies the end of a measure at that point. I can think of

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Noeck
Hi David, I recall thinking at some point that perhaps LilyPond would count up the stuff not between \cadenzaOn ... \cadenzaOff and place barlines in the correct place (it doesn't). What do you mean here differing from 1) (which is what I also proposed in a previous mail)? I don't

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de To: bobr...@centrum.is Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:53:58 PM Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 Hi David, I recall thinking at some point that perhaps LilyPond would count up

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - From: Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net To: Lilypond User List lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:14:36 PM Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 At 10:49 on 28 Mar 2015, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: - Original Message - From: Andrew

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Mark Knoop
At 10:49 on 28 Mar 2015, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: - Original Message - From: Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com Yes, I have accidentals in the cadenza section. As I stated, however, in the final measure the cadenza has been ended and a bar line has been crossed so the key signature

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Noeck
Hi David, how about this: \version 2.18.2 \score { \relative c' { \clef F \key a \major r4-\fermata cis4 ~ cis8.-[ \grace { dis32 cis bis cis } dis!16-] \cadenzaOn e4 ~ \teeny \stemUp e32-[ dis e dis-] \cadenzaOff cis-[ bis! c b-] a-[ gis a gis-] %% 4/4 measure

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Noeck
A naive question: Could the \cadenzaOff command be changed in a way that it automatically implies the end of a measure at that point. Perhaps I overlook cases where this is not wanted, but where I use this command, I want a bar line and a new bar starting with beat one right after it. Any

cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
I provided a bad example in my previous attempt in an effort to be minimal. Here goes with one that actually illustrates the issue: I ran into some seemingly odd output when using \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff. According to this:

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - From: Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com To: bobr...@centrum.is, Lillypond Users Mailing List lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:23:40 AM Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 Well, you have a C natural in the group of 32s

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Well, you have a C natural in the group of 32s, and then in the last bar a C#, so generally engravers will put a sharp to revert the previous natural and let the performer know we are back to normal (cadenza or not). That’s how I learned music (I think!). Also, when putting manual beaming, you