Re: Underlining fingering instructions without loosing positioning

2010-03-22 Thread Neil Puttock
On 21 March 2010 13:08, Morten mor...@lemvigh.org wrote: The \finger apparently ensures the correct font, but is there some command to make it behave or position itself like a fingering instruction? Use the 'tweaks property to override the Fingering stencil: underlineFinger = #(define-music

Underlining fingering instructions without loosing positioning

2010-03-21 Thread Morten
I'm trying to have underlined fingering instructions in Lilypond v. 2.12.3. - On a button accordion this would mean that the helper rows (I don't know the English term) should be used instead of the main rows. I've seen different posts about this, but in every case, the solution has had to do

Fingering Infos always above the system

2010-03-06 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello, as always: I just don't get it right. I want to set the fingering for the melody above and for the bass-line below the system. But they are written all the time above. melody = \relative e'' { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(up) e4-0 f-1 g2-4 | % 1 } bass = \relative e

Re: Fingering Infos always above the system

2010-03-06 Thread David Stocker
fingeringOrientations = #'(down) e-02 g-3 | % 1 } Hope that answers your question. Regards, David On 03/06/2010 02:50 PM, Hajo Dezelski wrote: Hello, as always: I just don't get it right. I want to set the fingering for the melody above and for the bass-line below the system

RE: Fingering Infos always above the system

2010-03-06 Thread James Lowe
Just use ^ or _ e4^0 or f_1 for example. You can explicitly set it then. Thats what I do for my Trumpet Music. James -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Hajo Dezelski Sent: Sat 06/03/2010 19:50 To: lilypond Subject: Fingering

Re: Fingering Infos always above the system

2010-03-06 Thread David Stocker
The disadvantage of this method is that if you change your mind later, you have to change each f_1 to f^1, whereas if you do f-1 you can change them all by doing \set #'fingeringOrientations This is a good solution if you use only a few fingering orientations in a piece. Regards, David

Re: Fingering Infos always above the system

2010-03-06 Thread Hajo Dezelski
. You can explicitly set it then. Thats what I do for my Trumpet Music. James -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Hajo Dezelski Sent: Sat 06/03/2010 19:50 To: lilypond Subject: Fingering Infos always above the system

Re: Fingering Infos always above the system

2010-03-06 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello, and thanks for the solutions. I see the better solution in using the brackets. It writes the number nearer to the note but if I have something like the example below, the numbers are written over the beams, so that they are not readable. \set fingeringOrientations = #'(up) { e' [b

Re: Fingering Infos always above the system

2010-03-06 Thread Nick Payne
. \set fingeringOrientations = #'(up) { e' [b d-4 c-1] | % 1 b8 a-2 r8 d-48 | % 2 } You can also use \override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##f to get the fingering below the beam, and \override Fingering #'staff-padding = #'() to get the fingering inside the staff. Nick

Slur over trill fingering

2010-02-19 Thread Nick Payne
the fingering. Is there a simpler way? Nick attachment: trillfingerslur.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Slur over trill fingering

2010-02-19 Thread David Kastrup
, and then tweaking it to the desired position over the fingering. Is there a simpler way? You could try starting from here { { b'4.^\markup{\finger 2020}^\trill- \tweak #'outside-staff-priority #450( s8 ) } \\ e'2 } and then tweak the positions into shape. -- David Kastrup

Re: Doc suggestion for Right Hand Fingering

2010-02-19 Thread Graham Percival
://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#index-right-hand-fingerings-for-fretted-instruments it's said: Note: There must be a hyphen after the note and a space before the closing . Let's say I also have a left-hand fingering, for example: c-3 c'-14

Doc suggestion for Right Hand Fingering

2010-02-17 Thread Federico Bruni
the note and a space before the closing . Let's say I also have a left-hand fingering, for example: c-3 c'-14 According to the sentence I may think this is correct:c-3\rightHandFinger #1 c'-1\rightHandFinger #4 4 That's why I think that sentence may be slightly misleading. It took me some

Guitar stroke fingering and multiple voices

2010-02-09 Thread Nick Payne
Don't know if this has been thought of before (I couldn't find it in the lilypond-user archives), but while having to do some tweaking to get stroke fingering in one voice to avoid notes in another voice, I realised that multiple stroke fingering indications can be attached to a single note

Re: Guitar stroke fingering and multiple voices

2010-02-09 Thread David Stocker
Very nice! Nick Payne wrote: Don't know if this has been thought of before (I couldn't find it in the lilypond-user archives), but while having to do some tweaking to get stroke fingering in one voice to avoid notes in another voice, I realised that multiple stroke fingering indications can

Chord fingering orientations don't work as expected 2.13.12

2010-02-04 Thread Nick Payne
Looks like you can't have both left and right specified for fingering of different notes in a chord. The first \set fingeringOrientations is correctly engraved but the second isn't. Couldn't see anything in the documentation mentioning this as a known issue: \version 2.13.12 \relative c

Re: Chord fingering orientations don't work as expected 2.13.12

2010-02-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nick Payne wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:11 PM Looks like you can't have both left and right specified for fingering of different notes in a chord. Correct Couldn't see anything in the documentation mentioning this as a known issue: You'll find fingering is explained much more

fingering direction

2010-01-11 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, Running lilypond 2.12.3, I was trying: \relative c' { \override Fingering #'direction = #DOWN c-5 e-3 g-1 } expecting, but not getting the same result as: \relative c' { c_5 e_3 g_1 } Can someone explain why the first example does not put all the fingering below the notes ? Just

Re: fingering direction

2010-01-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Martin Tarenskeen wrote Monday, January 11, 2010 11:07 AM \relative c' { \override Fingering #'direction = #DOWN c-5 e-3 g-1 } expecting, but not getting the same result as: \relative c' { c_5 e_3 g_1 } Can someone explain why the first example does not put all the fingering below

Fingering placement problem

2010-01-08 Thread Nick Payne
In the following example, forcing the staccato to appear below the note also moves the fingering from immediately below the notehead to below the staccato marking, and I haven't found a way to stop this happening - setting Fingering #'outside-staff-priority to ##f or a negative value doesn't

tablature fingering (again)

2009-12-04 Thread Hugh Myers
Since this: \version 2.13.7 upper = { b\4 e\3 gis\2 e' 4 s2 } lower = { s2. } { \time 3/4 \new Staff \relative c'' { \set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible \bar \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t) \set

Re: tablature fingering (again)

2009-12-04 Thread Hugh Myers
Thanks Federico, Not so much wrong, but 'doesn't match the original' ;-) --hsm On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote: Hugh Myers wrote: Since this: \version 2.13.7 upper = {   b\4 e\3 gis\2 e' 4 s2 } lower = {   s2. } {   \time 3/4     \new

Re: tablature fingering (again)

2009-12-04 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:17:18 -0700 Von: Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com An: Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com CC: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: tablature fingering (again) Thanks Federico, Not so much wrong, but 'doesn't match the original

Re: tablature fingering (again)

2009-12-04 Thread Hugh Myers
...@gmail.com An: Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com CC: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: tablature fingering (again) Thanks Federico, Not so much wrong, but 'doesn't match the original' ;-) --hsm On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote: Hugh

tablature fingering

2009-11-29 Thread Hugh Myers
Given the nature of the guitar fret board a note like a b may be indicated in tablature in at least two ways. For instance in this example: \version 2.13.7 upper = {  \times 2/3 { e,8 [ e' b ] } \times 2/3 { gis8 [ e' b ] } \times 2/3 { b [ e b ] } } lower = {  s2. } {  \time 3/4    \new Staff

Re: tablature fingering

2009-11-29 Thread -Eluze
Hugh Myers wrote: So how do I get from here to there? reading the Notation Reference (NR), in this case http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Default-tablatures Default-tablatures -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/tablature-fingering

Re: tablature fingering

2009-11-29 Thread Hugh Myers
/user/lilypond-big-page#Default-tablatures Default-tablatures -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/tablature-fingering-tp2650p26567057.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond

Re: New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
for Fingering. So we need to set it to something greater than 100 for the bowing commands. Or set the Fingering's priority lower than the Script's. ;) If a script doesn't have a default in script.scm, the engraver allocates it a priority starting at zero, so a negative value for the fingering

Re: New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-08 Thread John Ervin
Jan, Fair enough the scans show your point, though there is other music I know that has the asymmetric glyph for upbow and I do think the glyph I'm proposing better matches the stroking on the downbow. That matter of taste aside, the problem I'm having - while trying to typeset chamber music

New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-07 Thread John Ervin
Hello, When writing bowing marks on notes that have fingering with Lilypond, I'm always getting the bowing mark close to the note and the fingering above that bow mark. Using: d''4-2\upbow or say d''4^\markup { \finger 2}\upbow This is rather atypical in my experience. Is there a way to have

Re: New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Ervin wrote Monday, September 07, 2009 10:32 PM When writing bowing marks on notes that have fingering with Lilypond, I'm always getting the bowing mark close to the note and the fingering above that bow mark. Using: d''4-2\upbow or say d''4^\markup { \finger 2}\upbow

Re: New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-07 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/7 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: The relative positioning of script objects is controlled by the 'script-priority property. By default this left unspecified for most articulations (including bowing commands) and set to 100 for Fingering.  So we need to set it to something

Re: New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-07 Thread John Ervin
Trevor, Thanks that solved it. I just added (script-priority . 2000) to upbow and downbow in script.scm (which is in \usr\share\lilypond\current\scm in my Windows installation). This now gives the typical behavior, but my .ly files won't be as portable as they could be. Now if someone just knew

RE: Vertifal alignment of fingering and accent

2009-08-23 Thread Nick Payne
-Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Mark Polesky Sent: Sunday, 23 August 2009 11:29 AM To: Nick Payne; lilypond Subject: Re: Vertifal alignment of fingering

Vertifal alignment of fingering and accent

2009-08-22 Thread Nick Payne
The following puts the fingering on the d above the accent rather than below. I've played around with various values for script-priority and outside-staff-priority for both fingering and accent without managing to change the order. Any suggestions on how to rearrange them to have the fingering

Re: Vertifal alignment of fingering and accent

2009-08-22 Thread Mark Polesky
Nick Payne wrote: The following puts the fingering on the d above the accent rather than below. I've played around with various values for script-priority and outside-staff-priority for both fingering and accent without managing to change the order. Any suggestions on how to rearrange them

fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread michel . villeneuve
fingering down.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Mark Knoop
At 18:50 on 12 Aug 2009, michel.villene...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why the fingering indications are up and not down because I specified it by : \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) Sorry if it's a stupid question but I can't see where is my mistake. \set fingeringOrientations

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Kulp
For fingering orientation to take effect, you have to put the note inside a chord construct . I thought we had added a warning about this. Here's what it should look like: \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) sib-34 Ok I've just added this warning about the chord construct requirement

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote: At 18:50 on 12 Aug 2009, michel.villene...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why the fingering indications are up and not down because I specified it by : \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) Sorry if it's a stupid

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote: At 18:50 on 12 Aug 2009, michel.villene...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why the fingering indications are up and not down because I

RE: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Nick Payne
Yes, the construct around the note is needed. If you just have e-4 e^4 e_4, all three fingerings will appear above the notes. You need e-4 e^4 e_4. ^ and _ also work with articulations and slurs and ties. It's briefly mentioned in s.2.2.3 of the LM as working for articulations and

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:09:59PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Is the use of _ and ^ with fingerings documented anywhere? I don't remember seeing this. It's certainly easier than using the chord angle brackets. Fingering instructions may be manually placed above or below the staff, see

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 06:59:01AM +1000, Nick Payne wrote: Yes, the construct around the note is needed. If you just have e-4 e^4 e_4, all three fingerings will appear above the notes. Really? That's odd, apparently 2.13.2 is broken. { c'4^3 c_2 } gives me a 2 below the staff. Cheers, -

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
correct in thinking that you'll still have to use if you want the fingerings to go left or right of the note? In that case, \set fingeringOrientations is still necessary for single notes sometimes. The fullest explanation of fingering is in section 4.4.2 of the Learning Manual, which deals

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Michel Villeneuve
I understood. By searching lilypond fingering in Google I found the 2.9 doc page about fingering. The 2.12 doc page on this subject is enough detailed for me (beginner point of view who managed this evening to put fingering indications in the right place). Thank you very much for you help

suggestion for emproving NR: fingering istructions

2009-07-28 Thread Federico Bruni
Hi, from my privileged position of newbie ;-) I have a suggestion for a very tiny edit in the Notation Reference which might ease the understanding for new users. This is the page (section Selected Snippets): http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering

Re: suggestion for emproving NR: fingering istructions

2009-07-28 Thread Mark Polesky
-the-staff#Fingering-instructions What is missing there, IMHO, is a clear statement like left-hand fingerings must be entered within a chord construct (i.e.: even single notes must be enclosed by ). There is a similar sentence in the right-hand fingering chapter: http://lilypond.org/doc

Re: suggestion for emproving NR: fingering istructions

2009-07-28 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Selected Snippets): http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions What is missing there, IMHO, is a clear statement like left-hand fingerings must be entered within a chord construct (i.e.: even single notes must be enclosed

Re: suggestion for emproving NR: fingering istructions

2009-07-28 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/7/28 Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com: The changes should make it into the development docs in the next couple of days, if I understand the way this works. If only it were that simple. :) The LSR changes won't make their way into the docs until I run makelsr.py on the nightly docs

Re: suggestion for emproving NR: fingering istructions

2009-07-28 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/28 Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com: The changes should make it into the development docs in the next couple of days, if I understand the way this works. If only it were that simple. :) The LSR changes

Re: Bass clarinet fingering chart

2009-07-08 Thread Francisco Vila
Mike, could you post this attached as a file? I can not process it as copied from the mail client. 2009/7/7 Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu: Hey lilypond-users,    Before I put this on the LSR, please play around with this. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org

Re: Bass clarinet fingering chart

2009-07-08 Thread Mike Solomon
I think that is EXCELLENT and certainly prettier than mine. Which one to use depends which ones would serve the needs of a particular score/chart better. Some performers prefer less information w/ a textual description (ie play the G# key) whereas others prefer the graphical representation

Re: Bass clarinet fingering chart

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Polesky
decimal places. Good for guile; but any decimal expression of pi remains an approximation. Of course. But 14 decimal places should be enough for the fingering chart. (: And (angle -1) is a pretty neat trick, don't you think? - Mark

Bass clarinet fingering chart

2009-07-07 Thread Mike Solomon
Hey lilypond-users, Before I put this on the LSR, please play around with this. Specifically, please 1) Make it less sprawling. 2) Find anything that's broken (the below examples work). 3) Change layout to better-suit your wind-playing needs. 4) Make any and all layout or coding suggestions.

Re: Bass clarinet fingering chart

2009-07-07 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Mike, great work! I have some comments below On 7/7/09 2:46 PM, Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu wrote: Hey lilypond-users, Before I put this on the LSR, please play around with this. Specifically, please 1) Make it less sprawling. Decrease your tab settings. Follow the indentation

Re: Bass clarinet fingering chart

2009-07-07 Thread Mark Polesky
Mike Solomon wrote: Hey lilypond-users, Before I put this on the LSR, please play around with this. Specifically, please 1) Make it less sprawling. 2) Find anything that's broken (the below examples work). 3) Change layout to better-suit your wind-playing needs. 4) Make any and all

Re: fingering

2009-05-10 Thread Mario Moles
Caro Neil esiste anche un modo per abbreviare questo?: \override StrokeFinger #'text = #(lambda (grob) (markup #:center-column (#:lower 2.5 ^ (stroke-finger::calc-text grob Grazie!

Re: fingering

2009-05-10 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/5/10 Mario Moles mario-mo...@libero.it: Caro Neil esiste anche un modo per abbreviare questo?: \override StrokeFinger #'text = #(lambda (grob) (markup #:center-column (#:lower 2.5 ^ (stroke-finger::calc-text grob You could use identifiers, but here's a better solution, using your

Re: fingering

2009-05-09 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/5/7 Mario Moles mario-mo...@libero.it: Perdonatemi ma non so l'inglese. Provo comunque a spiegarmi. Vorrei sapere se c'è un modo per fissare una distanza tra \markup e nota in modo da non aggiustare nota per nota la distanza. Io uso i \markup perchè mi servono le lettere con ^

Re: fingering

2009-05-09 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/5/9 Mario Moles mario-mo...@libero.it: Grazie mille! Ora non mi resta che mettere tutto a posto! Grazie ancora! You're welcome. :) I can't bear to see somebody having to use 'extra-offset when there's (usually) a much better solution. ;) Regards, Neil

Re: Fingering font size on grace notes

2009-04-26 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/25 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net: This reduction seems about right to me, comparing the sizes on the normal and grace notes: Thanks, I've made the changes in git. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Fingering font size on grace notes

2009-04-25 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/21 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net: Fingering indications on grace notes doesn't shrink to be proportional to the reduced size of the grace note, and the full size indication looks excessively large alongside the note. It's easy enough to override - using \override Fingering

RE: Fingering font size on grace notes

2009-04-25 Thread Nick Payne
This reduction seems about right to me, comparing the sizes on the normal and grace notes: \version 2.12.2 gfsn = { \once \override Fingering #'font-size = #-8 \once \override StringNumber #'font-size = #-8 \once \override Fingering #'padding = #0.2 \once

Fingering font size on grace notes

2009-04-21 Thread Nick Payne
Fingering indications on grace notes doesn't shrink to be proportional to the reduced size of the grace note, and the full size indication looks excessively large alongside the note. It's easy enough to override - using \override Fingering #'font-size = #-8 seems about right - but perhaps

Re: Alignment of stroke fingering

2009-04-13 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/13 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net: Guitar stroke fingering is lower case, but with the orientation set to up, the p is not correctly aligned with the other characters in a succession of fingering indications, and with the orientation set to down, the i is similarly misaligned

RE: Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-12 Thread Nick Payne
I find the same thing happens with guitar fingering - that sometimes the order in which the fingering indications appear above the stave doesn't match the pitch order of the notes they are applied to. I just use \tweak on the fingerings to fix it. Nick -Original Message- From: lilypond

Re: Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nick Payne wrote Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:10 PM I find the same thing happens with guitar fingering - that sometimes the order in which the fingering indications appear above the stave doesn't match the pitch order of the notes they are applied to. Do you have an example which shows

Re: Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-12 Thread Gerard Neil
order in which the fingering indications appear above the stave doesn't match the pitch order of the notes they are applied to. Just to be clear, that wasn't happening for me... the order was fine, it was just that the fingering indications in one voice were colliding with note heads/stems

Alignment of stroke fingering

2009-04-12 Thread Nick Payne
Guitar stroke fingering is lower case, but with the orientation set to up, the p is not correctly aligned with the other characters in a succession of fingering indications, and with the orientation set to down, the i is similarly misaligned. This doesn't look pleasing to the eye, and indeed

Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-11 Thread Gerard Neil
Hi everyone, I'm having a bit of trouble fingering a chorale-like work for piano. The upper staff has mostly two voices, and it looks best if I finger them both above the stave. My first approach was to use \override Fingering #'direction = #UP for the second voice, but then the fingerings

Re: Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-11 Thread -Eluze
hi which version are you using? when i compile your code wit version 2.12.2 i do not get collisions. if you feel stems and fingerings are to close you could add some extraspace with \override Fingering #'extra-offset = #'( -0.5 . 0) or choose the value you prefer hth -- View this message

Re: Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-11 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/11/09 9:27 AM, Gerard Neil xy...@devferret.org wrote: So I've got two questions: 1. Can someone help me write a macro/function to make this simpler? It would be nice to be able to write something like a^\multiFinger { 2 3 }, for example. I'm sure this is possible, but I've spent a

Re: Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-11 Thread Gerard Neil
and fingerings are to close you could add some extraspace with \override Fingering #'extra-offset = #'( -0.5 . 0) Thanks very much for that, I'll give it a try. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-11 Thread Gerard Neil
2009/4/12 Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: I thought this would be easy, but it took me a while longer than I expected. This file includes two slightly different ways of doing it: Carl, you're a champion! Thanks! That's exactly what I was trying to do. I'd sort of worked out that those

Slur below note affects fingering location above note

2009-04-07 Thread Nick Payne
Is this a bug or not? The fingering indications for C and D don't sit just above the noteheads as they do for the other notes. If I remove the slur between those two notes, then the fingering is positioned at the desired location. Why should a slur positioned below the notes affect the location

Re: Slur below note affects fingering location above note

2009-04-07 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/7 Nick Payne njpa...@internode.on.net: Is this a bug or not? The fingering indications for C and D don't sit just above the noteheads as they do for the other notes. If I remove the slur between those two notes, then the fingering is positioned at the desired location. Why should a slur

RE: Slur below note affects fingering location above note

2009-04-07 Thread Nick Payne
@gnu.org Subject: Re: Slur below note affects fingering location above note 2009/4/7 Nick Payne njpa...@internode.on.net: Is this a bug or not? The fingering indications for C and D don't sit just above the noteheads as they do for the other notes. If I remove the slur between those two

Fingering padding with accidentals

2009-03-30 Thread Nick Payne
The padding that is applied to fingering on the left when there is an accidental is greater than when there is no accidental. From my measurements it seems to default to 0.5 staff units from a note but 0.7 units from an accidental, which looks odd to me. Is it possible to reduce the default

Re: Fingering padding with accidentals

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/3/30 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net: The padding that is applied to fingering on the left when there is an accidental is greater than when there is no accidental. From my measurements it seems to default to 0.5 staff units from a note but 0.7 units from an accidental, which looks

RE: Fingering padding with accidentals

2009-03-30 Thread Nick Payne
-Original Message- From: Neil Puttock [mailto:n.putt...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 07:07 To: Nick Payne Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Fingering padding with accidentals 2009/3/30 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net: The padding that is applied

Problem with arpeggio across voices and fingering

2009-03-27 Thread Nick Payne
See attached. The arpeggio on the chord without the fingering is fine, and the fingering without the arpeggio is fine, but the two together results in a large gap appearing between the fingering/arpeggio and the notes. What I want is the fingering just to the left of the notes and the arpeggio

Re: Problem with arpeggio across voices and fingering

2009-03-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
This is a known bug, see http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=556q=arpeggio In this bug database you can also see that this is one of 258 open issues. :-( /Mats Nick Payne wrote: See attached. The arpeggio on the chord without the fingering is fine, and the fingering without

Re: Problem with arpeggio across voices and fingering

2009-03-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mats, In this bug database you can also see that this is one of 258 open issues. :-( I'd love to see Coda Music's open issues file for Finale... ;-) Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Problem with arpeggio across voices and fingering

2009-03-27 Thread Robin Bannister
Nick Payne wrote: What I want is the fingering just to the left of the notes and the arpeggio just to the left of the fingering. I'm pretty sure you ought to change the order in which these things are hung onto the side of the notes. But I'm afraid I can't help you with that. As regards

RE: Problem with arpeggio across voices and fingering

2009-03-27 Thread Nick Payne
Thanks. That fixes the problem. Nick -Original Message- From: Robin Bannister [mailto:r...@dataway.ch] Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 01:31 To: Nick Payne; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Problem with arpeggio across voices and fingering Nick Payne wrote: What I want

Re: fingering

2009-03-14 Thread James E. Bailey
On 14.03.2009, at 04:48, Mark Polesky wrote: James, You're funneling two different music expressions into one context, but you've not explicitly instantiated a voice context. … Note that when you add \new Voice = A you no longer need the #'add-stem-support command. That's rather

fingering

2009-03-13 Thread James E. Bailey
Is it possible to get fingerings aligned the same way when defined in a separate variable as when defined in a different variable? i.e.: \include deutsch.ly \version 2.12.2 musicOne = { c'8 d' e' f' g' a' h' c'' } musicOneFingerings= { s8-1 s-2 s-3 s-1 s-2 s-3 s-4 s-5} musicTwo = {c'8-1 d'-2

Re: fingering

2009-03-13 Thread -Eluze
James E. Bailey-3 wrote: Or is it just not possible? with Lilypond everything is possible!!! try \override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##t in the Staff context -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/fingering-tp22505666p22506489.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond

Re: fingering

2009-03-13 Thread James E. Bailey
On 13.03.2009, at 23:56, -Eluze wrote: James E. Bailey-3 wrote: Or is it just not possible? with Lilypond everything is possible!!! try \override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##t in the Staff context Awesome, thanks. ___ lilypond-user

Re: fingering

2009-03-13 Thread Mark Polesky
James, You're funneling two different music expressions into one context, but you've not explicitly instantiated a voice context. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Creating-contexts and

Re: Problem with fingering

2009-02-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
consider it as a temporary solution. I'm a visually impaired teacher and I'm about to use LilyPond for providing fingering of played pieces for my pupils. So as I'm a piano teacher, I'm about to bump into fingering of chords containing seconds quite often. Every GUI notator which supports

Re: Problem with fingering

2009-02-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
It would be nice if LilyPond were able to resolve every possible fingering configuration optimally, but it is a complex problem. Generally, the options available work pretty well, and when they don't there is the possibility to tweak the positions of individual fingerings to your liking. Like

RE: Problem with fingering

2009-02-13 Thread Nick Payne
Thanks, that gives me some extra ammunition to solve some fingering problems. Nick -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Trevor Daniels Sent: Friday, 13

Re: Problem with fingering

2009-02-13 Thread David Stocker
extra-offset rocks! Thanks for the suggestions. Dave Trevor Daniels wrote: It would be nice if LilyPond were able to resolve every possible fingering configuration optimally, but it is a complex problem. Generally, the options available work pretty well, and when they don't

Re: Problem with fingering

2009-02-13 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, thanks for solution. It's great to have any solution. Could anyone please send it into LSR for future reference? Nevertheless, I consider it as a temporary solution. I'm a visually impaired teacher and I'm about to use LilyPond for providing fingering of played pieces for my pupils

Problem with fingering

2009-02-12 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, let's modify slightly a snippet from NR 1.7.1, section Fingering Instructions: \relative c' { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left) c-1 d-2 a'-54 \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) c-1 d-2 a'-54 \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down right up) c-1 d-2 a'-54 \set

Re: Problem with fingering

2009-02-12 Thread David Stocker
involving notes with accidentals, some fingerings are displayed to the left of the accidental (good) while fingerings on notes without accidentals are not shifted left (ugly-and sometimes results in collisions between accidentals and fingering indications). It would be great to be able to tell

RE: Problem with fingering

2009-02-12 Thread Nick Payne
A further problem (seems to me to qualify as a bug) is that if I have two adjacent notes in a chord, I can't place one fingering indication to the left and the other to the right. Up/down works ok, but left/right or right/left places both indications on the right

RE: Problem with fingering

2009-02-12 Thread -Eluze
(if up appears in the list), below (if down appears), to the left (if left appears, or to the right (if right appears). Conversely, if a location is not listed, no fingering is placed there. LilyPond takes these constraints and works out the best placement for the fingering of the notes

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