2011/7/10 David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com:
* Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com [2011-07-06 21:10]:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
I'm not sure. I think the thickness of that line is more at fault than
its direction. It should be (IMO anyway)
2011/7/11 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
i'm impressed by the amount of feedback i receive!
The scary thing is that personal taste can easily be influenced by
lesser [early computer based] publications that have appeared since the
70's.
I don't doubt that you've
If anyone hasn't done this already, i strongly recomment
alt-tab-comparing them (i.e. open them in two maximized windows,
both zoomed to 400% or so, and switch windows with alt-tab).
I noticed that i've send files not optimized for
alt-tab-comparison... Now i attach better ones; sorry for
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
I really like the new clef in your recompiled examples. I vote for
at least including both options if not replacing the existing one
altogether. Thanks for your work on this, Janek, the treble clef
has been one of Lily's weakest visual aspects IMO.
Werner LEMBERG writes:
I really like the new clef in your recompiled examples. I vote for
at least including both options if not replacing the existing one
Please take care that if you start to suggest voting for what you
like best, you do that based not so much on personal taste...
Please
On Sat 09 Jul 2011, 01:58 Janek Warchoł wrote:
Hi all,
currently it is:
right:
[...]
Dmytro
Actually, I would like the third (right one) to be a bit higher (and deeper,
probably).
I would definitely like to try it myself...
So, for now it's oh well..., not more.
therefore i'm opening
Am Sonntag, 10. Juli 2011, 12:17:28 schrieb Dmytro O. Redchuk:
On Sat 09 Jul 2011, 01:58 Janek Warchoł wrote:
Hi all,
currently it is:
right:
[...]
Dmytro
Actually, I would like the third (right one) to be a bit higher (and
deeper, probably).
Me too.
When I originally
On Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:48 Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
So, I prefer the upper loop of the original clef, but the vertical line of
the
third one...
Most probably, I would say that -- if the upper loop was as in the original
clef -- lower part sholud be deeper, too.
So, if I could (sorry, again)
2011/7/9 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com:
W dniu 8 lipca 2011 00:14 użytkownik James Lowe
james.l...@datacore.com napisał:
until you really print out a score and plop it on your music stand and then
have sharps and flats and time signatures and other ornamentation, I don't
On Jul 9, 2011, at 16:58, Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com
wrote:
2011/7/9 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com:
W dniu 8 lipca 2011 00:14 użytkownik James Lowe
james.l...@datacore.com napisał:
until you really print out a score and plop it on your music stand and
* Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com [2011-07-06 21:10]:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
I'm not sure. I think the thickness of that line is more at fault than
its direction. It should be (IMO anyway) as thin as a note stem or
thinner. I suspect that the
Do you think it would be a good idea to include both current Lily
clef and the one suggested by me in the font?
Yes, definitely! For example in your bww 988 example, I still think
that the larger clef looks much better. Your idea of making the line
through the spiral a bit more straight is a
I really like the new clef in your recompiled examples. I vote for
at least including both options if not replacing the existing one
altogether. Thanks for your work on this, Janek, the treble clef
has been one of Lily's weakest visual aspects IMO.
Please don't forget that lilypond's clefs
Hi all,
currently it is:
left: James, Ralph, Nick, Werner, Xavier
middle: Brent, Luca, Matthew
right: Reinhold, Paul, Martin, Trevor, James Worlton, Tim, Daniel,
Dmytro, Robert, Janek
therefore i'm opening a Rietveld issue: http://codereview.appspot.com/4664070
2011/7/6 Reinhold Kainhofer
2011/7/6 Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com:
Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top tip
and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by Hindemith,
though smaller in type, typeset by Scott, has slanting to the left. So there
is some variation.
2011/7/7 James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com:
From: Janek Warchoł [lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com]
2011-07-06 22:21 james.l...@datacore.com wrote:
Can we have some sharps and flats and perhaps some numeric signatures?
There is no context for the
2011/7/7 Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com:
On 7 Jul 2011, at 08:14, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top
tip and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by
Hindemith, though smaller in type, typeset by Scott, has
On 7 Jul 2011, at 08:14, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top
tip and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by
Hindemith, though smaller in type, typeset by Scott, has slanting to the
left. So there is some
On Thu 07 Jul 2011, 10:16 Janek Warchoł wrote:
I guess our G-clef is curved partly to distinguish itself from other
software' clefs. Default Finale clef has very straight vertical line
for example.
I would rather not take into account other software' clefs..
(Probably, I simply do not like
On 7 Jul 2011, at 10:16, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top
tip and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by
Hindemith, though smaller in type, typeset by Scott, has slanting to the
left. So there is some
2011/7/7 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com:
I guess our G-clef is curved partly to distinguish itself from other
software' clefs. Default Finale clef has very straight vertical line
for example.
Maybe I’ve missed some discussions, but what’s the purpose of this
survey ? Do you
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
The first. IMHO, the other two are too small or should be used for
special situations only, like tight full scores.
Werner
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Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com writes:
At another place in Edition Peters, there is a slant to the right -
these are hand drawn, I think.
More likely hand-engraved. Of course an engraver can tilt the type
before committing to the hammer.
--
David Kastrup
2011/7/7 Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
The first. IMHO, the other two are too small or should be used for
special situations only, like tight full scores.
I've looked on IMSLP and many scores use clefs smaller than left one,
not only
The first. IMHO, the other two are too small or should be used for
special situations only, like tight full scores.
I've looked on IMSLP and many scores use clefs smaller than left
one, not only when staves are crowded.
Yes, especially non-German editions use very small clefs. It's a
Am 07.07.2011 11:37, schrieb Xavier Scheuer:
2011/7/7 Janek Warchołlemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com:
I guess our G-clef is curved partly to distinguish itself from other
software' clefs. Default Finale clef has very straight vertical line
for example.
Maybe I’ve missed some discussions, but
2011/7/7 Bill Mooney mooney...@aim.com:
Greetings all,
I prefer 2 or 3 before 1.
Putting them in context - see the attached files, where I have superimposed
pairs to show the differences as precisely as I could.
Good idea, thanks!
Janek
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2011/7/7 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com:
Maybe I’ve missed some discussions,
nope :)
but what’s the purpose of this survey ?
Do you plan to modify LilyPond’s G-clef ?
Yes.
It's been irking me since i began using Lily; I don't like it for
similar reasons as some of you (see attachment).
: Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?
2011/7/7 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com:
Maybe I’ve missed some discussions,
nope :)
but what’s the purpose of this survey ?
Do you plan to modify LilyPond’s G-clef ?
Yes.
It's been irking me since i began using Lily; I don't like it for
similar
On Mi., 6. Jul. 2011 21:10:51 CEST, Janek Warchoł
lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com wrote:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
The last one.
In the first one, the vertical strike looks too straight. The second one feels
unbalanced and looks loke it's falling over to
Janek,
I personally prefer the first one, then the third one, then the second one.
The third looks like it's twisting in on itself, but still feels more
balanced than the second one, which is tilted too far to the right. I find
the first more balanced than the third, but only very slightly. My 2¢
: which clef do you prefer?
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
Can we have some sharps and flats and perhaps some numeric signatures?
There is no context for the clef otherwise (if you see what I mean).
Initially at 100% I preferred the left one, but if you zoom out
On 6 Jul 2011, at 21:10, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
Examples from Edition Peters (Bach) and Schirmer (Muczynski) have the top tip
and the lowest crossing aligned pretty much vertically. A book by Hindemith,
though smaller in type, typeset
On 07/06/2011 12:10 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
I prefer the 3rd one. I don't like the size (too big and fat) of the
top loop on the 1st one.
Paul Scott
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
I like the 3rd one best.
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Subject: font survey: which clef do you prefer?
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
cheers,
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I prefer the second one.
In the first, the space outlined by the top loop of the clef and the top
line of the staff is too large, and the third just appears too 'grainy' to
me for some reason (although I find it hard to spot any differences between
it and the second).
Brent.
On 6 July 2011
Hello
From: Janek Warchoł [lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com]
Sent: 06 July 2011 21:53
To: James Lowe
Cc: lilypond-user
Subject: Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?
W dniu 6 lipca 2011 22:21 użytkownik James Lowe
james.l...@datacore.com napisał:
Can
On Jul 6, 2011, at 15:53, Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com
wrote:
W dniu 6 lipca 2011 22:21 użytkownik James Lowe
james.l...@datacore.com napisał:
Can we have some sharps and flats and perhaps some numeric signatures?
There is no context for the clef otherwise (if you see what
Il 06/07/2011 21:10, Janek Warchoł ha scritto:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
Hmm. I prefer the central one, I find in it more of the shape of the
original 'G' letter and it seems more balanced to me.
Luca
cheers,
Janek
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:53:51 +0200
From: Janek Warcho? lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com
To: James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com
Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?
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On 7/07/2011, at 7:10 am, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
I don't like the left one: the top loop is far too big.
Of the other two, I marginally prefer the upright stance of the centre one over
the more 'laid-back' style of the right one.
Best
I like the third one.
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On Wed 06 Jul 2011, 21:10 Janek Warchoł wrote:
Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
The first one.
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On Wed 06 Jul 2011, 22:53 Janek Warchoł wrote:
W dniu 6 lipca 2011 22:21 użytkownik James Lowe
james.l...@datacore.com napisał:
Can we have some sharps and flats and perhaps some numeric signatures?
There is no context for the clef otherwise (if you see what I mean).
Attached.
The third
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