Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-26 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Some more usability notes. I'm only a folk singer and guitar player, but a professional typesetter. My first notation program was some crap that I got with an used Mac (forgot the name, it was discontinued). On Linux I tried some very early version of LilyPond but never got it to work (font

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-25 Thread Hans Aberg
On 24 Feb 2008, at 21:46, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: I use a home made emacs mode, named lyqi, which makes it possible to enter notes and change their duration, alteration, octave, etc, with few key strokes, and with audio feedback. The page, with some source code, can be found here:

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2008/2/25, Hans Aberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 24 Feb 2008, at 21:46, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: I'm using a key map described here: http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/index.php/2006/07/01/8 On Mac OS X, keyboard layouts can be created using Ukelele http:// scripts.sil.org/ukelele, though I don't

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-25 Thread Hans Aberg
On 25 Feb 2008, at 13:23, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: On Mac OS X, keyboard layouts can be created using Ukelele http:// scripts.sil.org/ukelele, though I don't know if the sound generation is possible. :-) As far as I can see, what Nicolas describes is definitely *not* possible with a OS

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 23 février 2008 à 21:39 -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : 2008/2/23, Andrew Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-1.html Excellent analysis! I like these articles too! Rachmaninoff's prelude benchmarking is done with the same quality as in the

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 24 février 2008 à 20:31 -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : Ok, here's the rub: we have this mechanism called concave beams, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/input/regression/collated-files#beam-concave.ly: [hmmm, the #filename links are broken; we get the full path name now. Is

Concave beams (was: free LilyPond advertising)

2008-02-25 Thread Rune Zedeler
Han-Wen Nienhuys skrev: This is pretty obvious for single-voice notes; for chords it gets hairier: which part of the chord notes do we use to decide this? I think we should look at both top notes and bottom notes. We should only make the beam horizontal if they agree that the pattern is

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-25 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 25 févr. 08 à 14:11, Hans Aberg a écrit : On 25 Feb 2008, at 13:23, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: On Mac OS X, keyboard layouts can be created using Ukelele http:// scripts.sil.org/ukelele, though I don't know if the sound generation is possible. :-) As far as I can see, what Nicolas

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-25 Thread Martial
Here's the .ly files I used. Waouh thanks ! Thanks for your newspaper ! Good good advertisement ! To prove that LilyPond is formidable, beam can be adapted easily with : \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(-y1 . -y2) %%--- RightHandTwo = \relative c'' { bes, ees4 r

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-25 Thread Hans Aberg
On 25 Feb 2008, at 21:34, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: It's not just about producing strings. It's also about parsing the previous content (to find out, say, the current duration, or octave), and remembering previous typings (accidentals for instance). It's also about modifying the previous

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 24.02.2008 um 14:29 schrieb till: Andrew Hawryluk-2 wrote: OK. maybe this isn't advertising, but as a recovering Finale user I have been taking notes about what it was like to try LilyPond for the first time. The first three installments of those writings are now posted on my site and,

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi James, for just getting something quick, that doesn't really have to look good, finale is definitely faster Several years ago, I would have called myself a Finale expert: in addition to over a decade of use (typesetting well over a hundred scores, including my Master's Thesis,

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joseph, Another third-party view What makes Finale and Sibelius nice in many situations is that they are not just notation tools but _composition_ tools, which allow you to enter into a dialogue between notation, playback and performance. As a result, it tends to smooth the passage

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread Joseph Wakeling
till wrote: I was just wondering what is it then that you like so much in Finale? You said both are good, but for different things. What is this thing? Is it that it is easier to correct typesetting errors in Finale? Another third-party view What makes Finale and Sibelius nice in many

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
I was just wondering what is it then that you like so much in Finale? You said both are good, but for different things. What is this thing? Is it that it is easier to correct typesetting errors in Finale? Yes, I left most of that discussion for later, but to be brief, Finale's advantages

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 24 févr. 08 à 18:27, Andrew Hawryluk a écrit : I was just wondering what is it then that you like so much in Finale? You said both are good, but for different things. What is this thing? Is it that it is easier to correct typesetting errors in Finale? Yes, I left most of that

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Note that using a clever enough editor, you can have instant audio feedback when entering notes for LilyPond too. And indeed this is very useful. Can you give some examples and some comparisons? ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 24 févr. 08 à 19:56, Joseph Wakeling a écrit : Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Note that using a clever enough editor, you can have instant audio feedback when entering notes for LilyPond too. And indeed this is very useful. Can you give some examples and some comparisons? I use a home made emacs

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Some more usability notes. I'm only a folk singer and guitar player, but a professional typesetter. My first notation program was some crap that I got with an used Mac (forgot the name, it was discontinued). On Linux I tried some very early version of LilyPond but never got it to work (font

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Ok, here's the rub: we have this mechanism called concave beams, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/input/regression/collated-files#beam-concave.ly: Beams whose inside notes get closer to the beam than the edge notes should be horizontal. This is pretty obvious for single-voice notes; for chords

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-24 Thread James E. Bailey
On 24.02.2008, at 16:36, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi James, for just getting something quick, that doesn't really have to look good, finale is definitely faster Several years ago, I would have called myself a Finale expert: in addition to over a decade of use (typesetting well over a

Re: Concave beams (was: free LilyPond advertising)

2008-02-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008/2/24, Rune Zedeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Han-Wen Nienhuys skrev: This is pretty obvious for single-voice notes; for chords it gets hairier: which part of the chord notes do we use to decide this? I think we should look at both top notes and bottom notes. We should only make the beam

free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-23 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
OK. maybe this isn't advertising, but as a recovering Finale user I have been taking notes about what it was like to try LilyPond for the first time. The first three installments of those writings are now posted on my site and, of course, the LilyPond output looks marvellous:

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-23 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008/2/23, Andrew Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK. maybe this isn't advertising, but as a recovering Finale user I have been taking notes about what it was like to try LilyPond for the first time. The first three installments of those writings are now posted on my site and, of course, the

Re: free LilyPond advertising

2008-02-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
OK. maybe this isn't advertising, but as a recovering Finale user I have been taking notes about what it was like to try LilyPond for the first time. The first three installments of those writings are now posted on my site and, of course, the LilyPond output looks marvellous: