Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-18 Thread mike99
Thanks to all for the replies. An approach using chord structure would seem difficult, since the voices are not kept separate. The \\ and { } \\ {} structures should work, but don't seem very elegant compared to writing separate voices. After some initial discussion with someone in the

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-18 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/18/10 2:24 AM, mike99 mike.br...@gmail.com wrote: Carl's method of using partcombine allows for keeping the voice inputs separate. This makes the code clearer, and is encouraging since it's still undecided which notation to adopt; by changing a few declarations I could use either

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-18 Thread mike99
Carl Sorensen-3 wrote: I set printPartCombineTexts to #f. I have just lived with it. But given your experience with chords, I decided to try putting a chord with a transparent note in the voice that needed the extra stem: soprano = \relative c'' { a f e d | e g c b } alto

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-18 Thread Carl Sorensen
mike99 mike.brigu at gmail.com writes: Carl Sorensen-3 wrote: This does work, though I found another limitation. Because you have to place the note head about one staff space down in order to avoid horizontal displacement of the phantom note head, the stem protrudes further down (or

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-11 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: The non-translates docs are 2137 pages. Not a typo; we have over two thousand pages. (granted, that counts table of contents, index, LSR extracts, etc... but it's still a lot!) Not to mention the auto-generated IR which repeats the same information over and over

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-08 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Xavier Scheuer wrote: Le Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:30:19 -0800 (PST), mike99 mike.br...@gmail.com a écrit : Fair enough, but there are the lyrics, set here to the soprano voice, which, unintended by myself, skips the fourth beat in the second measure. In the documentation's first example on divisi

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Bertalan, Are you sure? I think I remember that { c } \\ { d } Will make the c to be in a Voice called a, so \context Voice = a { e { c } \\ { d } } will make the e and c in the same voice. I believe it's 1. Cheers, Kieren. ___

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Why not spend a minute to find an authoritative answer before sending speculations to the list? See for example Sect. 3.2.2 Explicitly instantiating voices of the Learning Manual or examples like http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg38804.html /Mats Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Mats, Why not spend a minute to find an authoritative answer before sending speculations to the list? You're right — I'm just not going to bother answering such questions any more. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-08 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Why not spend a minute to find an authoritative answer before sending speculations to the list? Because my memory works like a hash map, so I can find data in it constant time, while looking in the manual or the archive is in O(nlogn) where n is the size of the information source. Bert See

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-08 Thread Philip Potter
2010/1/8 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) lilypondt...@organum.hu: Why not spend a minute to find an authoritative answer before sending speculations to the list? Because my memory works like a hash map, so I can find data in it constant time, while looking in the manual or the archive is in

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/7/10 3:40 PM, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: See, e.g., To God be the Glory, http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=195 which has the words to the refrain set, but not the other words. (BTW, the spacing algorithm changed after I first typeset

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-02 Thread Xavier Scheuer
Le Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:30:19 -0800 (PST), mike99 mike.br...@gmail.com a écrit : Fair enough, but there are the lyrics, set here to the soprano voice, which, unintended by myself, skips the fourth beat in the second measure. In the documentation's first example on divisi lyrics (Notation

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-02 Thread James Bailey
On 02.01.2010, at 16:20, Xavier Scheuer wrote: If such a technique is required for all exceptions to the chord structure, it seems as if the chord method could become patchwork if many exceptions are needed in a piece. Ten exceptions might be common on a one-page hymn, requiring the creation of

Re: hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-02 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/1/10 6:30 PM, mike99 mike.br...@gmail.com wrote: Enter my question: What is your opinion to the two methods, given the direction of the project and in terms of readability and complications that it would cause in the score? It would not be a simple thing to switch between the two

hymns: chords vs. voices

2010-01-01 Thread mike99
Greetings, After a few days of reading and coding, I'm entering the steep part of the learning curve as a new user. Years ago I used MusiXTeX with pmx and M-tx, and the different is appreciable. I'm gearing up for a song-book project, and it looks like LP will win out over MuseScore and any