Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Charlie Ma
I just joined this group and have learned so much already. First time answering. Hope this is right (works for me anyway.) Butter Cream: for the first tie put the first b-flat in the same "voice." for the 2nd tie use \repeatTie. \repeat volta 2 { 4 8 ~ r8 << { bes4~ } \\ { s4 } >> |

RE: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Welcome! From: Butter Cream Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:29 PM To: Leo Correia de Verdier ; Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods Thank you! I will implement your suggestions. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Butter Cream
Butter Cream ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods Also: your tie needs to end in the same voice it started. \new Voice and the <<\\>> construct both create other voices. If you remove \new Voice = “melody” from your first attempt it will work

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
tter Cream > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 1:29 PM > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Ties across voices; tried two methods > > Hi ponders, I have a piece of music with alternative ending. The last measure > prior to the alternative is a single voice has a tied note to b

RE: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
across voices; tried two methods Hi ponders, I have a piece of music with alternative ending. The last measure prior to the alternative is a single voice has a tied note to both endings. I'v e tried two methods but both methods produce similar error: {with no tie} Any help would be appreciated

Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Butter Cream
Hi ponders, I have a piece of music with alternative ending. The last measure prior to the alternative is a single voice has a tied note to both endings. I'v e tried two methods but both methods produce similar error: {with no tie} Any help would be appreciated. *.ly:100:42: warning:

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-19 Thread Karlin High
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I will point out that the documentation for those is somewhat lean. > Maybe it's a good idea to amend the documentation to say that it is possible > to create ties across voices. You just might be the best-qualified person

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-19 Thread Shachar Shemesh
that it is possible to create ties across voices. Shachar ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-18 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Carl Sorensen" > To: "Simon Albrecht" ; "Shachar Shemesh" > ; > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: Ties across voices > > >> >> >

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-18 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Carl Sorensen" To: "Simon Albrecht" ; "Shachar Shemesh" ; Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Ties across voices On 6/17/18, 12:14 PM, "Simon Albrecht" wrote: On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Sheme

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-18 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 6/17/18, 12:14 PM, "Simon Albrecht" wrote: On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > The Tie won't tie between the voices and the chord past the voices. It seems to work if you move the Tie_engraver from Voice to Staff level: I moved Tie_performer along, since

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-17 Thread Timothy Lanfear
On 17/06/18 19:03, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 17/06/18 07:51, Carl Sorensen wrote: This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. I'm sorry, it seems that my challenges are not over :-( You can read more about using hidden notes to make ties span voices here: It is an interesting

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
PS. It’s helpful if you include a complete, compilable example in your requests, including a \version statement so we know which version you are using. See . Best, Simon On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm attaching a scan from "The Easy

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm attaching a scan from "The Easy Winners" by Scott Joplin, the way it was published in 1901. I can't seem to get it to display the way I want. […] The Tie won't tie between the voices and the chord past the voices. It seems to work if you

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-17 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 17/06/18 07:51, Carl Sorensen wrote: This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. I'm sorry, it seems that my challenges are not over :-( You can read more about using hidden notes to make ties span voices here: It is an

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
From: Pierre Perol-Schneider Date: Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 11:25 PM To: Carl Sorensen Cc: Shachar Shemesh , "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Re: Ties across voices Hi Sachar, Hi Carl, How about : \relative c'' { \time 2/4 \key aes\major \mergeDifferentlyDottedOn <&l

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-16 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Sachar, Hi Carl, How about : \relative c'' { \time 2/4 \key aes\major \mergeDifferentlyDottedOn << { g16 8. ges16 8 des16~ | \stemNeutral 8 f'16 des ees f aes, a | } \\ { g4 ges8. f16~ | \once\hideNotes f4 s } >> } Cheers, Pierre 2018-06-17 6:51 GMT+02:00

Re: Ties across voices

2018-06-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. Here's the first attempt: \version "2.18" \partcombine \relative {\time 2/4 \key aes\major g'16 8. ges16 8 des16~ | des8 f16 des ees f aes, a |} \relative {\time 2/4 \key aes\major g'4

Ties across voices

2018-06-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
I'm attaching a scan from "The Easy Winners" by Scott Joplin, the way it was published in 1901. I can't seem to get it to display the way I want. (The key is des major, 2/4) My first attempt: << {g16 8. ges16 8 des16~ | } \ {g,4 ges8. f16~ | } >> 8 f16 des ees f aes, a That

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-13 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 13.12.2016 um 11:11 schrieb Peter Toye: Urs, Andrew, Simon Thank you all very much for the solutions. I now have 4 ways to create what I need! My next task - to get ties across enharmonics, which I gather is impossible and I have to use slurs. There is a regtest for this, so it looks as

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-13 Thread Urs Liska
Am 13.12.2016 um 11:11 schrieb Peter Toye: > Re: Ties across voices Urs, Andrew, Simon > > Thank you all very much for the solutions. I now have 4 ways to create > what I need! > > My next task - to get ties across enharmonics, which I gather is > impossible and I have t

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-13 Thread Peter Toye
Urs, Andrew, Simon Thank you all very much for the solutions. I now have 4 ways to create what I need! My next task - to get ties across enharmonics, which I gather is impossible and I have to use slurs. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-13 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.12.2016 um 12:24 schrieb Peter Toye: So this is "my" solution. Comments inline >\relative c' { > << > >{ > \once \hide Accidental \once \hide NoteHead \once \hide Stem You need an additional \once \stemDown in my version as well. The way you create the

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12. Dezember 2016 13:55:39 MEZ, schrieb Alexander Kobel : >On 2016-12-12 13:42, Urs Liska wrote: >> [...] BTW: Has this warning been disabled somewhere in the unstable >>> versions? From 2.19.49, I get no complaint even for << { \stemDown b' } \\ a' >>

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2016-12-12 13:42, Urs Liska wrote: [...] BTW: Has this warning been disabled somewhere in the unstable versions? From 2.19.49, I get no complaint even for << { \stemDown b' } \\ a' >> which clearly collides... I think in this example there actually is no colliding-note-column clash

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 11.12.2016 19:01, Peter Toye wrote: Ties across voices I want to engrave some piano music which includes the attached fragment. As I understand it I need a single voice for the first chord, but two for the second. But the ties can't extend across voices. This is exactly the situation

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12. Dezember 2016 13:27:45 MEZ, schrieb Andrew Bernard : >​Hi All,​ > > > >On 12 December 2016 at 23:24, Alexander Kobel >wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2016-12-12 12:24, Peter Toye wrote: >> >>> Andrew, Urs, >>> >>> Thanks both for the ideas. It's

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Alexander Kobel
Hi, On 2016-12-12 13:27, Andrew Bernard wrote: On 12 December 2016 at 23:24, Alexander Kobel > wrote: BTW: Has this warning been disabled somewhere in the unstable versions? From 2.19.49, I get no complaint even for << { \stemDown b'

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Andrew Bernard
​Hi All,​ On 12 December 2016 at 23:24, Alexander Kobel wrote: > Hi, > > On 2016-12-12 12:24, Peter Toye wrote: > >> Andrew, Urs, >> >> Thanks both for the ideas. It's interesting. >> >> Andrew's method works but gives a warning about clashing note columns >> but the

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Alexander Kobel
Hi, On 2016-12-12 12:24, Peter Toye wrote: Andrew, Urs, Thanks both for the ideas. It's interesting. Andrew's method works but gives a warning about clashing note columns but the layout is fine. you can add a \once \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t before \stemDown; this will

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Peter Toye
Andrew, Urs, Thanks both for the ideas. It's interesting. Andrew's method works but gives a warning about clashing note columns but the layout is fine. Urs' method gives two different results, depending on whether I put the 4-note chord in the 1st or 2nd voice. In the 1st voice the layout's

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Peter, Use voices. Just turn the stem down for the first F and A. \version "2.19.52" \score { << { \stemDown 4 ^~ \stemUp 8[ a'' g''] } \\ { 4 _~ } >> } Andrew

Re: Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Urs Liska
l does that). You may suppress that warning, but I don't have the command available from memory. HTH Urs Am 11.12.2016 um 19:01 schrieb Peter Toye: > Ties across voices I want to engrave some piano music which includes > the attached fragment. As I understand it I need a single voice for >

Ties across voices

2016-12-12 Thread Peter Toye
I want to engrave some piano music which includes the attached fragment. As I understand it I need a single voice for the first chord, but two for the second. But the ties can't extend across voices. I saw a thread about this in 2007, but I can't get it to work as other normal ties within

Ties across voices

2014-11-02 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hello, As far as I know, which is certainly minimal, ties cannot be input across voices as in \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo } . How could I achieve ties as in the attached example? Thank you for your kind attention.

Re: Ties across voices

2014-11-02 Thread Mike Solomon
On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello, As far as I know, which is certainly minimal, ties cannot be input across voices as in \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo } . How

RE: Ties across voices

2014-11-02 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
across voices On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello, As far as I know, which is certainly minimal, ties cannot be input across voices as in \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo

Re: How can we obtain ties across voices in parallel music?

2014-09-05 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Abraham and Urs, LP is great, and so is its users list! Thanks for your help, and a nice day! JM Am 04.09.2014 um 20:59:59 schrieb Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: The only thing I dislike about this is the use of \hideNotes. \hideNotes makes Notes _transparent_ but doesn't remove

How can we obtain ties across voices in parallel music?

2014-09-04 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello folks, I’d like to obtain the tie between the cis’s in beat 1 and 2 in the attached, from a version of BWV 508 (3/4). The best I could find is: % \version 2.18.2 { \clef treble \key b \major \time 3/4 … \tieDown cis ~ ais fis4 ) {fis8 --} {\hideNotes cis8

Re: How can we obtain ties across voices in parallel music?

2014-09-04 Thread Abraham Lee
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Jacques Menu imj-...@bluewin.ch wrote: Hello folks, I’d like to obtain the tie between the cis’s in beat 1 and 2 in the attached, from a version of BWV 508 (3/4). The best I could find is: % \version 2.18.2 { \clef treble \key b \major \time 3/4

Re: How can we obtain ties across voices in parallel music?

2014-09-04 Thread Urs Liska
The only thing I dislike about this is the use of \hideNotes. \hideNotes makes Notes _transparent_ but doesn't remove the stencils. This often results in strange output issues, sometimes striking, sometimes subtle. The problem is that the ties or slurs will still try to avoid the hidden

RE: Ties across voices

2014-04-05 Thread Daniel Rosen
-Original Message- From: Nick Payne [mailto:nick.pa...@internode.on.net] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:54 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version 2.19.3 \new Staff

Re: Ties across voices

2014-03-31 Thread Urs Liska
Am 31.03.2014 05:54, schrieb Nick Payne: On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version 2.19.3 \new Staff \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ c d, c } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo c d8 q How can I tie the lower voice's c d to the upper voice's

Re: Ties across voices

2014-03-31 Thread Rutger Hofman
On 03/31/2014 05:54 AM, Nick Payne wrote: On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version 2.19.3 \new Staff \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ c d, c } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo c d8 q How can I tie the lower voice's c d to the upper voice's

Re: Ties across voices

2014-03-31 Thread Urs Liska
Am 31.03.2014 09:59, schrieb Rutger Hofman: On 03/31/2014 05:54 AM, Nick Payne wrote: On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version 2.19.3 \new Staff \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ c d, c } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo c d8 q How can I

Ties across voices

2014-03-30 Thread Daniel Rosen
Consider the example below: \version 2.19.3 \new Staff \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ c d, c } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo c d8 q } How can I tie the lower voice's c d to the upper voice's c d, c? DR ___ lilypond-user

Re: Ties across voices

2014-03-30 Thread Nick Payne
On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version 2.19.3 \new Staff \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ c d, c } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo c d8 q How can I tie the lower voice's c d to the upper voice's c d, c? You could use a third hidden

ties across voices

2012-01-14 Thread Alberto Simões
Hello, Is there anyway to make a tie across voices easily? Thanks, ambs attachment: tie.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: ties across voices

2012-01-14 Thread Alberto Simões
On 1/14/12 14:11 , Alberto Simões wrote: Hello, Is there anyway to make a tie across voices easily? Thanks, ambs Got almost there: f8[ g a c] | g4. \tieDown d8 ~ | { \stemOff d4 s } \new Voice { \stemUp g8[ a bes d] } \stemUp Where stemOff = { \once \override

Re: ties across voices

2012-01-14 Thread Alberto Simões
On 1/14/12 14:31 , Alberto Simões wrote: On 1/14/12 14:11 , Alberto Simões wrote: Hello, Is there anyway to make a tie across voices easily? Thanks, ambs Got almost there: f8[ g a c] | g4. \tieDown d8 ~ | { \stemOff d4 s } \new Voice { \stemUp g8[ a bes d] } \stemUp Where stemOff

Re: ties across voices

2012-01-14 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: ties across voices On 1/14/12 14:31 , Alberto Simões wrote: On 1/14/12 14:11 , Alberto Simões wrote: Hello, Is there anyway

Re: ties across voices

2012-01-14 Thread Alberto Simões
On 1/14/12 14:44 , Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: ties across voices On 1/14/12 14:31 , Alberto Simões wrote: On 1/14/12 14:11 , Alberto

Re: ties across voices

2012-01-14 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt: It's all in the documentation if you look: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/snippets/simultaneous-notes#suppressing-warnings-for-clashing-note-columns I confess I didn't search for it, as I would be okay with the warning :) But

Re: ties across voices

2009-08-02 Thread Patrick Schmidt
the best, Patrick Original-Nachricht Datum: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:55:11 +0200 Von: Wilbert Berendsen lily...@xs4all.nl An: lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: ties across voices Op zaterdag 01 augustus 2009, schreef Patrick Schmidt: how can I tie a note of one voice to a note

ties across voices

2009-08-01 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Hi all, how can I tie a note of one voice to a note of another voice? { \times 2/3 { es8 d c } bes'2 f 4 } \\ { g,4 c es2 d4 } I would like to tie the »c« of the upper voice to the »c« of the lower voice. The tilde doesn't seem to work here. (I already tried

Re: ties across voices

2009-08-01 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/1 Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de: how can I tie a note of one voice to a note of another voice? You can't. The usual workaround is to use a hidden note:

Re: ties across voices

2009-08-01 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op zaterdag 01 augustus 2009, schreef Patrick Schmidt: how can I tie a note of one voice to a note of another voice? There is no easy way to do just that (afaict, other than placing the Tie- Engraver in the Staff context?), but most times I fiddle a bit with voiceOne, voiceTwo etc. This is one

Re: ties across voices

2009-08-01 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/8/1 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com: 2009/8/1 Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de: how can I tie a note of one voice to a note of another voice? You can't.  The usual workaround is to use a hidden note:

ties across voices -- DIFFICULT!!!

2008-07-15 Thread Eric Flesher
I am having an extremely difficult time finding an acceptable coding solution for a fairly straightforward (though relatively complex) notational problem: I have several measures of piano music (code appended below) in which an initial chord is struck, with voices released at different times.

Re: ties across voices -- DIFFICULT!!!

2008-07-15 Thread Eric Flesher
Eric Flesher ericflesher at gmail.com writes: I am having an extremely difficult time finding an acceptable coding solution for a fairly straightforward (though relatively complex) notational problem: ... et cetera... Here's the code: \version 2.11.51 upper = \relative c'' { \clef