Ok - report from the trenches: an install as administrator really does
solve this problem. My 2.11 version now runs just like my previous 2.10
did. I'm back in business.
If I may humbly suggest: I really think that section of
http://lilypond.org/web/install/ dealing with Linux installers should
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:12:53 -0700
Tom Cloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I may humbly suggest: I really think that section of
http://lilypond.org/web/install/ dealing with Linux installers should
read do sudo sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux-x86.sh in a command window, not
just do sh
Sure, if you're up on your
Linux, no problem, but the Linux world is drawing a number of people
who come from other backgrounds (i.e., Windows), AND don't have a lot
of time to study up.
Knowing that you run a program by doing
cd progdir
./progname
or adding it to your PATH environment
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:43:50 +0200
James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But if your only previous experience running software is double-
clicking, it's pretty daunting. And most software that requires that
knowledge is written by people who already know it. I'll say it,
lilypond was
Am 20.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Graham Percival:
It's not the job of the lilypond manual to teach users how to use
their operating systems. There's *tons* of other help available
on the internet for such tasks -- and a lot of that help has much
prettier pictures than we'd have the patience
James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 20.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Graham Percival:
It's not the job of the lilypond manual to teach users how to use
their operating systems. There's *tons* of other help available
on the internet for such tasks -- and a lot of that help has much
prettier pictures than
Tom
Why not use the Windows version? That installs as
you would expect and works exactly like the Unix
one?
Trevor
- Original Message -
From: Tom Cloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lilipond lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems
Hello.
[...]
For what it's worth.
And again...thanks for all the help people have offered me since I've
arrive here. I now have a very good looking score in front of me, as
fruits for this labor - and more to come. I'm loving the experience I'm
having here, mostly. I'd love to give a
would expect and works exactly like the Unix
one?
Trevor
- Original Message - From: Tom Cloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lilipond lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems
James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 20.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Graham
2008/8/20 Tom Cloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Such a comment is NOT appropriate when dealing with someone who want to join
the community of Linux users, and, say use Lilypond, but isn't about to
read the code. Can't, in fact. The quality of the Lilypond documentation,
and the clarity of the syntax
Valentin Villenave wrote:
We provide a shell script, that is *perfectly* maintained for both our
stable and development versions, and for a wide range of operating
systems and architectures. It can either be run in root mode (files go
to /usr/local/) or in user mode (files goes to your home
2008/8/20 Tom Cloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And after nearly 6 months of fairly intense work in my new Kubuntu
environment, I have NEVER heard of this business of Linux's not paying
attention to what directory you're in. It's totally brand new
information. Has never been mentioned on the
Tom Cloyd wrote:
I will certainly say this about the Lilipad documentation: Other than
possibly Gimp, I haven't seen anything else in the Linux application
program world that compares to it. I've found it usable, helpful, and to
the point. A fine achievement, without doubt.
Definitely better
Gilles Sadowski wrote:
3. Using the lilypond program (on Linux) amounts to learn the following 2
commands:
$ lilypond myfyle.ly
$ xpdf myfile.pdf
That certainly should not scare away people motivated by the nice printed
scores which this software produces. [Of course, assuming
Tom Cloyd wrote:
James E. Bailey wrote:
This is very true, and I did have to consult much other information
in order to get it working, and the instructions in the lilypond
documentation can, with patience, be understood. The information is
there, and it's all correct, I'm just saying that
Bryan Stanbridge wrote:
I haven't written any install scripts, but is it possible to have a
check, much like some OS X programs, where it asks Do you want this
program available to all users, or just your user? and then if they
select all-users to install as root instead of just install
I don't know how to find the time to learn enough, so I'm going to have
to ask for help here.
I've installed developmental ver. 2.11.56-1 from the Ly website (nice!
no compilation needed - thanks).
But I cannot get execution. My OS = Kubuntu Linux 8.04.1.
The installer created these 2
Tom Cloyd schrieb:
* #1 - /home/tomc/bin - the installer script's console output said that
this would contain a script created as a shortcut.
The only thing here that's looks like it might be the shortcut script is
lilypond. My user acct. owns it, and it's marked executable, but...
[EMAIL
/home/tomc/bin probably isn't in your $PATH. I'm going to guess that
to add it to your path you'd have to modify (or create and then
modify) the /home/tomc/.bashrc and add
PATH=$PATH:/home/tomc/bin/
export PATH
I think the last line has to be blank, I'm not sure. And again, I've
never done
Jan, James,
I continue to be amazed at the quick responses on this list. Fully
matches the response time on the Ruby list (my favorite programming
language).
As to the problem:
Please note this...
$ cd '/home/tomc/bin'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin$ lilypond -h
The program 'lilypond' is currently
I think the lilypond in that folder is lilypond, the program. If you
type /home/tomc/bin/lilypond what do you get?
Am 19.08.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Tom Cloyd:
Jan, James,
I continue to be amazed at the quick responses on this list. Fully
matches the response time on the Ruby list (my favorite
Tom Cloyd tomcloyd at comcast.net writes:
This isn't a path problem, I think. lilypond -h may not be quite
right, but I should have gotten something other than what I got, if the
lilypond script that IS in the dir executed. Here's the script -
Tom,
You can tell if it's a path problem by
Tom Cloyd tomcloyd at comcast.net writes:
The only thing here that's looks like it might be the shortcut script is
lilypond. My user acct. owns it, and it's marked executable, but...
tomc at tomc-desktop:~/bin$ lilypond
The program 'lilypond' is currently not installed. You can install it
This most definitely sounds like a path problem. In order to execute
from within the directory of the lilypond bin, you still need the ./
prefix (Carl's comment above):
./lilypond
If I were you I would install as root (su root or sudo or whatever you
have). Then all your executables should
Wow - so many ideas!
from James -
I think the lilypond in that folder is lilypond, the program. If you
type /home/tomc/bin/lilypond what do you get?
Oh. Bingo.
GNU LilyPond 2.11.56
Usage: lilypond [OPTION]... FILE...
(etc.)
Houston, we have a launch.
Major lesson: the Unix/Linix command
Tom,
I would suggest uninstalling from the home directory and re-installing
with sudo to make it system-wide. After that simply use the lilypond
filename.ly command and it'll run fine. At least it always has for
me--I've never installed it in the home directory before. Good luck...
Tom Cloyd wrote:
Major lesson: the Unix/Linix command processor (or whatever - genie?) is
disinterested in the fact that I'm already in the dir containing the
referenced file. I have to tell it explicitly. Coming from Windows, I
find this extremely confusing, nonsensical, etc., but I now
You need to add the folder that lilypond is in to your $PATH. Then,
linux will know to look in that folder as well for executables,
regardless of which directory you're actually in. Apparently on linux,
according to carl, you add to your /home/tomc/~.bashrc:
PATH=/home/tomc/bin:$PATH
export
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 05:04:52PM +0200, James E. Bailey wrote:
You need to add the folder that lilypond is in to your $PATH. Then,
linux will know to look in that folder as well for executables,
regardless of which directory you're actually in. Apparently on linux,
according to carl,
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Am Dienstag, 19. August 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 05:04:52PM +0200, James E. Bailey wrote:
You need to add the folder that lilypond is in to your $PATH. Then,
linux will know to look in that folder as well for
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 07:50:54PM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
I have tried adding these lines to ~/.bashrc in the past, too, but it
hasn't worked for me. Instead I put this is my ~/.bash_profile
The login sequence for login
Tom Cloyd wrote:
The only
thing here that's looks like it might be the shortcut script is
"lilypond". My user acct. owns it, and it's marked executable, but...
try changing directory (cd ~/tomc/bin) to the tomc/bin directory, and
typing ./lilypond --version and pressing enter. If
Chris Snyder wrote:
This isn't as big of a deal with single-user systems, but it still is
a good way to make sure that users are aware that they're not
executing system-supplied software.
Au contraire! If some bad guy on the internet has managed to hack any
account sufficiently to install a
Patrick McCarty wrote:
I have tried adding these lines to ~/.bashrc in the past, too, but it hasn't
worked for me. Instead I put this is my ~/.bash_profile
Ah, one of my favorite pet peeves. .bash_profile is run if it's a login
shell, and .bashrc if it's a non-login shell! I put all the
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 08:39:16PM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
I did not consider this, since I just have a self-compiled version
installed. If I did have two LilyPond binaries on my system, is there
an easy shell shortcut to
Am 19.08.2008 um 22:42 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 08:39:16PM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
I did not consider this, since I just have a self-compiled version
installed. If I did have two LilyPond binaries on my
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