Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de writes:
David Kastrup
I'm lacking knowldege here. All I know is that in simple orchestras
are using electronic tuners here. So they don't care about whether a
note is 2 cents higher or not.
Trust me, a violinist cares whether he has tuned reasonably pure fifths
* Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de [2011-03-14 17:19]:
Excerpts from David Kastrup's message of Mon Mar 14 16:58:39 + 2011:
You'll find that at the end of the day, they sit down at a keyboard
rather than just letting intervals play by numbers in their head.
*g*. I agree. The goal in all
Marc Weber wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier to assign notes (c,d,e,..) natural numbers?
then define
could be:
---O- nr 16
---O- nr 12
---O- nr 8
---O- nr 4
---O- nr 0
to be always 4 semitones?
Hi Marc, If you still want to experiment with this kind of alternative
notation in LilyPond, here are
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:43 AM, David Rogers
davidandrewrog...@gmail.comwrote:
* Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de [2011-03-14 04:01]:
-- O -- (O is the body of a note here)
-- O --
the interval between both pitches depends on the location.
Why?
Why should e-g be different from g - h ?
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com writes:
* Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de [2011-03-14 04:01]:
-- O -- (O is the body of a note here)
-- O --
the interval between both pitches depends on the location.
Why?
[...]
Sure, various people have come up with several interesting and useful
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
The _only_ non-fringe (and you
might debate that) instrument I know that has controls _deliberately_
designed around a chromatic scale (note that string instruments have
their controls dictated by physics) is the chromatic button accordion.
Every _other_
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
The _only_ non-fringe (and you
might debate that) instrument I know that has controls _deliberately_
designed around a chromatic scale (note that string instruments have
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
The _only_ non-fringe (and you
might debate that) instrument I know that has controls _deliberately_
designed around a chromatic scale (note that string instruments have
their controls dictated by physics) is
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
The _only_ non-fringe (and you
might debate that) instrument I know that has controls _deliberately_
designed around a
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
Frets in a guitar are absolutely chromatic. I did not mention
fretless instruments.
So please explain how you are would sort frets into a diatonic scale
arrangement corresponding to white keys on a piano,
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote:
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
Frets in a guitar are absolutely chromatic. I did not mention
fretless instruments.
So please explain how you are would sort
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Michael Ellis
michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
wrote:
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
Frets in a guitar are absolutely chromatic. I
* David Kastrup d...@gnu.org [2011-03-14 14:40]:
And 99% of all musical literature is _scale-oriented_ rather than
_interval_-oriented. So even singers tend to be better off with a
notation focusing on scales rather than intervals, unless they happen to
sing Schönberg.
Even if they sing
2011/3/14 Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
wrote:
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
Frets in a guitar are absolutely chromatic. I did not mention
fretless
Excerpts from David Rogers's message of Mon Mar 14 16:11:47 + 2011:
In my opinion, for starters, any new system that requires an explanation
of its features is out. If it isn't obvious without explanation, then
the advantages are probably not great enough to get anybody to switch.
:) Of
Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de writes:
I feel that some people playing music only once a year would benefit
from equal appearance meaning equal intervals.
Only if they are playing an instrument where equal intervals are
represented by equal key distances.
Since that is not the case for most
Excerpts from David Kastrup's message of Mon Mar 14 16:32:56 + 2011:
Since that is not the case for most instruments (in particular not for
piano keyboards), they have nothing to gain from a notation matching
better what they hear rather than what they need to play.
First this could be
Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de writes:
Excerpts from David Kastrup's message of Mon Mar 14 16:32:56 + 2011:
Since that is not the case for most instruments (in particular not for
piano keyboards), they have nothing to gain from a notation matching
better what they hear rather than what
2011/3/14 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de:
Second: You're wrong. By giving pitches numbers you'll naturally feel
than the distance 2-5 is the same as 8-11 and 27-30 and 45-48.
And how would you represent quarter-tones? 5.5? And other kinds of
tonal inflections?
Excerpts from David Kastrup's message of Mon Mar 14 16:58:39 + 2011:
You'll find that at the end of the day, they sit down at a keyboard
rather than just letting intervals play by numbers in their head.
*g*. I agree. The goal in all cases is: read a stream of music from
paper, hear it in
On Mon, March 14, 2011 6:02 pm, Bernardo Barros wrote:
2011/3/14 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de:
Second: You're wrong. By giving pitches numbers you'll naturally feel
than the distance 2-5 is the same as 8-11 and 27-30 and 45-48.
And how would you represent quarter-tones? 5.5? And other
Then you know that 6A is one octave above 5A, etc. Not that crazy
midinote notation..
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we have a decimal system and you want to represent a numeral system
based on 12 or 24 like [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B].
You should propose a system base on 12 or 24 then.
In computer science they use the hexadecimal system because it fits
computer's bytes representation, if your object
On Mon, March 14, 2011 6:57 pm, Bernardo Barros wrote:
we have a decimal system and you want to represent a numeral system
based on 12 or 24 like [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B].
You should propose a system base on 12 or 24 then.
In computer science they use the hexadecimal system
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:03 PM, i...@kristoflauwers.domainepublic.net wrote:
On Mon, March 14, 2011 6:57 pm, Bernardo Barros wrote:
we have a decimal system and you want to represent a numeral system
based on 12 or 24 like [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B].
You should propose a system
@Marc
I think we're offering too much discouragement here instead of helping
you figure out how to use LilyPond to experiment with your ideas. So
here's an adaptation of a script I use to generate solfege syllables
using the NoteNames engraver. By mapping numbers to the Dutch
notenames,
i...@kristoflauwers.domainepublic.net writes:
On Mon, March 14, 2011 6:57 pm, Bernardo Barros wrote:
we have a decimal system and you want to represent a numeral system
based on 12 or 24 like [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B].
You should propose a system base on 12 or 24 then.
In
Bernardo Barros
0,1,...,A,B (base 12)
Yes, you're right. Tell me one programmer who can count in Hex by heart. I can
do so on paper. But I can't tell you instantly what B*C gives. (11 * 13 = ..
back to hex? let me use a calculator).
You're right. Base 12 would be fun. But its not tought in
Marc Weber schreef op ma 14-03-2011 om 21:01 [+]:
I'm a programmer. I know many languages upside down (unfortunately not lisp)
Your brackets already match, I hear that's the hardest bit ;-)
Jan.
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-- O -- (O is the body of a note here)
-- O --
the interval between both pitches depends on the location.
Why?
Why should e-g be different from g - h ?
Wouldn't it be easier to assign notes (c,d,e,..) natural numbers?
then define
could be:
---O- nr 16
---O- nr 12
---O- nr 8
---O- nr 4
---O- nr
* Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de [2011-03-14 04:01]:
-- O -- (O is the body of a note here)
-- O --
the interval between both pitches depends on the location.
Why?
Why should e-g be different from g - h ?
Wouldn't it be easier to assign notes (c,d,e,..) natural numbers?
then define
could
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