the word LilyPond
Hi, Everyone who knows a bit about TeX/LaTeX knows what the result looks like when you use \LaTeX or \TeX in your source text. Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that for the word LilyPond ? A standard way to display LilyPond in documents and for example in the default lilypond tagline ? I personally would not choose something fancy like (La)TeX uses. But we could at least always write LilyPond with L and P in uppercase, and decide about and recommend the use of a standard font, one that is available on every system, to use in documents and websites, for the word LilyPond even if the surrounding text uses a different font. Just a thought. -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the word LilyPond
2012/2/9 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that for the word LilyPond ? A standard way to display LilyPond in documents and for example in the default lilypond tagline ? Idea seems nice to me, however this was discussed before and we couldn't decide on this. You can search the mailing list archives; if you create a proposal better than those rejected i guess we may be willing to vote on it. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: number of staff lines
2012/2/9 Nils l...@nilsgey.de: I can find the link if you want. that would be very nice! Here you go (watch out, 20 MB!): http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/c/cc/IMSLP162690-SIBLEY1802.17529.6eef-39087018850539score.pdf cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: number of staff lines
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:13:29 +0100 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/2/9 Nils l...@nilsgey.de: I can find the link if you want. that would be very nice! Here you go (watch out, 20 MB!): http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/c/cc/IMSLP162690-SIBLEY1802.17529.6eef-39087018850539score.pdf cheers, Janek And it is from 1908! Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: I've been thinking about the problem of sustaining LilyPond development long-term (and specifically the problem of obtaining enough money to support David K as long as he's interested). As I've thought about it, going after a grant seems the most logical thing to do. So I looked into the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities. NEA has nothing that looks interesting, unfortunately. However, NEH has two initiatives that seem interesting. One is concerned with preservation; the other is concerned with improve digital access to collected materials. Guidelines for the preservation grant (which will probably be due in July) are shown here: http://www.neh.gov/grants/guidelines/HCRR.html Guidelines for the digital humanities grants are shown here: http://www.neh.gov/grants/guidelines/digitalhumanitiesstartup.html Some comments: I have tried getting grants from different EU and national bodies with various partner institutions (including the one where Graham now works, IIRC). My impression is that you need people (preferably many) with lots of academic clout that can sign off on the proposal, since LilyPond itself has little formal recognition. Also, for EU research grants specifically, they were focused a lot on partnerships with and things that helped small and medium enterprises, and we couldn't invent a story around that. As for these grants specifically: you will need to invent something outrageously new involving LilyPond (now in its 14th year of existence), to qualify for the startup grant; the collections initiative looks like a better fit. A) Development of ly2xml B) Development of a lilypond scoring standard for the project, so that scholars would know how to compare scores. C) Development of score_ocr2ly, which would take a score pdf and turn it into .ly files matching the lilypond scoring standard Heh. This is a known problem, and the OCR part is very, very difficult. It also has nothing to do with lilypond. So I'd like to ask the developers (and the users): Does this seem interesting to you? Is this something that is worth trying to put together? Is anybody interested in contributing to a grant proposal? I'd be happy to provide any references or recommendations for the LilyPond project as a whole. If there seems to be enough interest, I'll visit with the music librarian at BYU, and see if there is any institutional interest. I'd talk with someone from the local music/humanities department that has experience with writing grants and the funding body. Of course, if you got grants in the past, that might be less necessary. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Hi everyone, Quick question for the group: I'm producing part books for all the fugues in the well-tempered clavier, and I don't like the fact that the instrument name is printed every time there's a new heading: \book { \header { title = Das Wohltemperierte Clavier composer = J.S. Bach instrument = Superius } \score { \new Staff { \relative c' {c1} } \header { title = FUGA I piece = a 4} } \score { \new Staff { \relative c' {c1} } \header { title = FUGA II piece = a 4} } \paper { print-all-headers = ##t } } I'd like to use the instrument line because I do want the name of the instrument at the top of each page, just not below the heading for each fugue. And I'd like to use either the title or subtitle line for the heading of each fugue, and the piece line for indicating the number of parts. If I switch on all the headers, I get the instrument name everywhere, and if I turn them off, I get no titles or subtitles. Can anybody help? TIA, Brent. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the word LilyPond
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2012/2/9 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that for the word LilyPond ? A standard way to display LilyPond in documents and for example in the default lilypond tagline ? Idea seems nice to me, however this was discussed before and we couldn't decide on this. You can search the mailing list archives; if you create a proposal better than those rejected i guess we may be willing to vote on it. A logo-like name turns out to be a nuisance in practice when you have to maintain web sites and other media. You should hear the people having to deal with LaTeX. Personally, I'd not mind to get rid of the capital P officially, so I am rather leaning in the opposite direction. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: number of staff lines
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2012/2/7 Nils l...@nilsgey.de: I talked to a few persons in the university today and they all agreed that the line on which a clef is is variable for any number of lines. But a clef should be never be in between lines, which is what Lilypond does. I've seen an engraving of Handel's Messiah in which tenors were notated using C clef placed between 3rd and 4th line. Quite smart, i'd say, because C clef placed this way is equivalent to G clef transposed down an octave. I can find the link if you want. The old clefs reminiscent of chant notation can sit IIRC on either lines or in between. The more modern clefs are rather fixed. In practice, anything but the C clef is not seen shifted vertically, and even the C clef is only seen on anywhere but the middle line mainly in Baroque music and earlier. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the word LilyPond
2012/2/9 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: Hi, Everyone who knows a bit about TeX/LaTeX knows what the result looks like when you use \LaTeX or \TeX in your source text. Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that for the word LilyPond ? A standard way to display LilyPond in documents and for example in the default lilypond tagline ? I personally would not choose something fancy like (La)TeX uses. This is my proposal (I did it just for fun a while ago) lilypond = \markup { \raise #0.4 \epsfile #X #4 #schematic-lilypond-logo.eps \epsfile #X #10 #lilypond-logo-fvila-G.eps %\raise #1.7 {\tiny (.org)} } { c' } \lilypond %%END Files attached. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com attachment: document.png lilypond-logo-fvila-G.eps Description: PostScript document schematic-lilypond-logo.eps Description: PostScript document ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
Just an idea: how about a Kickstarter http://www.kickstarter.com/project? Or has this already been considered? Brent. On 9 February 2012 12:08, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: I've been thinking about the problem of sustaining LilyPond development long-term (and specifically the problem of obtaining enough money to support David K as long as he's interested). As I've thought about it, going after a grant seems the most logical thing to do. So I looked into the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities. NEA has nothing that looks interesting, unfortunately. However, NEH has two initiatives that seem interesting. One is concerned with preservation; the other is concerned with improve digital access to collected materials. Guidelines for the preservation grant (which will probably be due in July) are shown here: http://www.neh.gov/grants/guidelines/HCRR.html Guidelines for the digital humanities grants are shown here: http://www.neh.gov/grants/guidelines/digitalhumanitiesstartup.html Some comments: I have tried getting grants from different EU and national bodies with various partner institutions (including the one where Graham now works, IIRC). My impression is that you need people (preferably many) with lots of academic clout that can sign off on the proposal, since LilyPond itself has little formal recognition. Also, for EU research grants specifically, they were focused a lot on partnerships with and things that helped small and medium enterprises, and we couldn't invent a story around that. As for these grants specifically: you will need to invent something outrageously new involving LilyPond (now in its 14th year of existence), to qualify for the startup grant; the collections initiative looks like a better fit. A) Development of ly2xml B) Development of a lilypond scoring standard for the project, so that scholars would know how to compare scores. C) Development of score_ocr2ly, which would take a score pdf and turn it into .ly files matching the lilypond scoring standard Heh. This is a known problem, and the OCR part is very, very difficult. It also has nothing to do with lilypond. So I'd like to ask the developers (and the users): Does this seem interesting to you? Is this something that is worth trying to put together? Is anybody interested in contributing to a grant proposal? I'd be happy to provide any references or recommendations for the LilyPond project as a whole. If there seems to be enough interest, I'll visit with the music librarian at BYU, and see if there is any institutional interest. I'd talk with someone from the local music/humanities department that has experience with writing grants and the funding body. Of course, if you got grants in the past, that might be less necessary. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
Kickstarter is USA only. On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:01:08 +0100 Brent Annable brentanna...@gmail.com wrote: Just an idea: how about a Kickstarter http://www.kickstarter.com/project? Or has this already been considered? Brent. On 9 February 2012 12:08, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: I've been thinking about the problem of sustaining LilyPond development long-term (and specifically the problem of obtaining enough money to support David K as long as he's interested). As I've thought about it, going after a grant seems the most logical thing to do. So I looked into the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities. NEA has nothing that looks interesting, unfortunately. However, NEH has two initiatives that seem interesting. One is concerned with preservation; the other is concerned with improve digital access to collected materials. Guidelines for the preservation grant (which will probably be due in July) are shown here: http://www.neh.gov/grants/guidelines/HCRR.html Guidelines for the digital humanities grants are shown here: http://www.neh.gov/grants/guidelines/digitalhumanitiesstartup.html Some comments: I have tried getting grants from different EU and national bodies with various partner institutions (including the one where Graham now works, IIRC). My impression is that you need people (preferably many) with lots of academic clout that can sign off on the proposal, since LilyPond itself has little formal recognition. Also, for EU research grants specifically, they were focused a lot on partnerships with and things that helped small and medium enterprises, and we couldn't invent a story around that. As for these grants specifically: you will need to invent something outrageously new involving LilyPond (now in its 14th year of existence), to qualify for the startup grant; the collections initiative looks like a better fit. A) Development of ly2xml B) Development of a lilypond scoring standard for the project, so that scholars would know how to compare scores. C) Development of score_ocr2ly, which would take a score pdf and turn it into .ly files matching the lilypond scoring standard Heh. This is a known problem, and the OCR part is very, very difficult. It also has nothing to do with lilypond. So I'd like to ask the developers (and the users): Does this seem interesting to you? Is this something that is worth trying to put together? Is anybody interested in contributing to a grant proposal? I'd be happy to provide any references or recommendations for the LilyPond project as a whole. If there seems to be enough interest, I'll visit with the music librarian at BYU, and see if there is any institutional interest. I'd talk with someone from the local music/humanities department that has experience with writing grants and the funding body. Of course, if you got grants in the past, that might be less necessary. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: number of staff lines
At 12:04 on 09 Feb 2012, David Kastrup wrote: The old clefs reminiscent of chant notation can sit IIRC on either lines or in between. The more modern clefs are rather fixed. In practice, anything but the C clef is not seen shifted vertically, and even the C clef is only seen on anywhere but the middle line mainly in Baroque music and earlier. The tenor clef (on the 4th line) is very common in cello, bassoon, trombone music. -- Mark Knoop ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the word LilyPond
Francisco, On 9 February 2012 11:45, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2012/2/9 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: Hi, Everyone who knows a bit about TeX/LaTeX knows what the result looks like when you use \LaTeX or \TeX in your source text. Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that for the word LilyPond ? A standard way to display LilyPond in documents and for example in the default lilypond tagline ? I personally would not choose something fancy like (La)TeX uses. This is my proposal (I did it just for fun a while ago) lilypond = \markup { \raise #0.4 \epsfile #X #4 #schematic-lilypond-logo.eps \epsfile #X #10 #lilypond-logo-fvila-G.eps %\raise #1.7 {\tiny (.org)} } { c' } \lilypond %%END Files attached. I like the lilypad and flowers 'icon', but with the typography (and maybe it's just me) all I can see are 'buttocks' ;) -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanish user list reaches 100
Hi! I don't know if it happens to others but I'm a spanish speaker and live in a spanish speaking country. I'm only in the general list. Probably I can be counted as one more to the spanish list ;) Todos los idiomas sean bienvenidos! Un Abrazo! tdy 2012/2/8 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com Hello all, It may look small, I know. It _is_ a small list. But let's face it, LilyPond has still a relatively reduced share, and the Spanish-speaking community is just starting to exist. Though if we compare this to our main TeX list which is rather old and has 440 subscribers, I think the overall is no too bad. I wanted to share this with the general list as it is good news for me as the founder. Thanks -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Brent Annable wrote: Hi everyone, Quick question for the group: I'm producing part books for all the fugues in the well-tempered clavier, and I don't like the fact that the instrument name is printed every time there's a new heading: \book { \header { title = Das Wohltemperierte Clavier composer = J.S. Bach instrument = Superius } \score { \new Staff { \relative c' {c1} } \header { title = FUGA I piece = a 4} } \score { \new Staff { \relative c' {c1} } \header { title = FUGA II piece = a 4} } \paper { print-all-headers = ##t } } I'd like to use the instrument line because I do want the name of the instrument at the top of each page, just not below the heading for each fugue. And I'd like to use either the title or subtitle line for the heading of each fugue, and the piece line for indicating the number of parts. If I switch on all the headers, I get the instrument name everywhere, and if I turn them off, I get no titles or subtitles. Can anybody help? you can customize the layout with http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation-big-page#custom-layout-for-headers-and-footers hth Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Instrument-line-in-header-block---first-piece-only--tp33292446p33293442.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the word LilyPond
2012/2/9 James pkx1...@gmail.com: Francisco, I like the lilypad and flowers 'icon', but with the typography (and maybe it's just me) all I can see are 'buttocks' Ah, blame your eyes! I see arabic script and half notes ;-) Yes, it's way too stylized. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanish user list reaches 100
2012/2/9 Pato Press tdy.p...@gmail.com: Hi! I don't know if it happens to others but I'm a spanish speaker and live in a spanish speaking country. I'm only in the general list. Probably I can be counted as one more to the spanish list ;) I think that to be counted you need to be an actual subscriber :-) Please subscribe here to be the 101st https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-es Thanks -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Ok, so it looks like I need to include print-all-headers = ##t, and then suppress the 'instrument' line in all subsequent scores. Can someone direct me to a document describing how to do that? My search didn't reveal anything. Brent. On 9 February 2012 15:07, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: Brent Annable wrote: Hi everyone, Quick question for the group: I'm producing part books for all the fugues in the well-tempered clavier, and I don't like the fact that the instrument name is printed every time there's a new heading: \book { \header { title = Das Wohltemperierte Clavier composer = J.S. Bach instrument = Superius } \score { \new Staff { \relative c' {c1} } \header { title = FUGA I piece = a 4} } \score { \new Staff { \relative c' {c1} } \header { title = FUGA II piece = a 4} } \paper { print-all-headers = ##t } } I'd like to use the instrument line because I do want the name of the instrument at the top of each page, just not below the heading for each fugue. And I'd like to use either the title or subtitle line for the heading of each fugue, and the piece line for indicating the number of parts. If I switch on all the headers, I get the instrument name everywhere, and if I turn them off, I get no titles or subtitles. Can anybody help? you can customize the layout with http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation-big-page#custom-layout-for-headers-and-footers hth Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Instrument-line-in-header-block---first-piece-only--tp33292446p33293442.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Actually, now that I think about it, the default 'instrument' line behaviour in the header seems a little odd to me. Does the instrument really need to be so demonstratively announced between movements or pieces if they are all part of the same document? Brent. On 9 February 2012 15:22, Brent Annable brentanna...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so it looks like I need to include print-all-headers = ##t, and then suppress the 'instrument' line in all subsequent scores. Can someone direct me to a document describing how to do that? My search didn't reveal anything. Brent. On 9 February 2012 15:07, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: Brent Annable wrote: Hi everyone, Quick question for the group: I'm producing part books for all the fugues in the well-tempered clavier, and I don't like the fact that the instrument name is printed every time there's a new heading: \book { \header { title = Das Wohltemperierte Clavier composer = J.S. Bach instrument = Superius } \score { \new Staff { \relative c' {c1} } \header { title = FUGA I piece = a 4} } \score { \new Staff { \relative c' {c1} } \header { title = FUGA II piece = a 4} } \paper { print-all-headers = ##t } } I'd like to use the instrument line because I do want the name of the instrument at the top of each page, just not below the heading for each fugue. And I'd like to use either the title or subtitle line for the heading of each fugue, and the piece line for indicating the number of parts. If I switch on all the headers, I get the instrument name everywhere, and if I turn them off, I get no titles or subtitles. Can anybody help? you can customize the layout with http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation-big-page#custom-layout-for-headers-and-footers hth Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Instrument-line-in-header-block---first-piece-only--tp33292446p33293442.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Brent Annable brentanna...@gmail.com writes: Actually, now that I think about it, the default 'instrument' line behaviour in the header seems a little odd to me. Does the instrument really need to be so demonstratively announced between movements or pieces if they are all part of the same document? It is common for wind instrument players to have to switch instruments between parts. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanish user list reaches 100
On 8 February 2012 15:53, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, It may look small, I know. It _is_ a small list. But let's face it, LilyPond has still a relatively reduced share, and the Spanish-speaking community is just starting to exist. Though if we compare this to our main TeX list which is rather old and has 440 subscribers, I think the overall is no too bad. I wanted to share this with the general list as it is good news for me as the founder. Hi Francisco, Congratulations! Seems a fast-growing community, when did you create it again? I just checked, the French-speaking community counts 198 subscribers. But the traffic is calmer than the international lilypond-user. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the word LilyPond
2012/2/9 James pkx1...@gmail.com: I like the lilypad and flowers 'icon', but with the typography (and maybe it's just me) all I can see are 'buttocks' +1, lol! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
On 9 February 2012 15:22, Brent Annable brentanna...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so it looks like I need to include print-all-headers = ##t, and then suppress the 'instrument' line in all subsequent scores. Can someone direct me to a document describing how to do that? My search didn't reveal anything. Hi, Add instrument = in the header of FUGA II. Should be OK for all subsequent scores. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanish user list reaches 100
2012/2/9 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com: Seems a fast-growing community, when did you create it again? Evidences say 2009-12. I brought some people from a now-extinct musiccomputing list. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
override TupletNumber . Custom text
Hello, I like to work with full tuplet numbers because it makes it clear which version of quintuplet is meant (2:5 or 4:5). Since I don't like errors, however 'traditional' they may have become, I would like to change the 3:2 of a triplet in a more correct 2/3. How can I get this format into \override TupletNumber #'text = [...] %old: #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text greetings, Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: grace note issue/bug
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:20:53 -0800 (PST) lily-user qroup...@gmail.com wrote: Eluze, I tried what Phil suggested (See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns#grace-notes http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns#grace-notes Known issues and warnings. ), which is synchronizing the grace note with the 2 staves in my simple example. But, it doesn't work with a complex example. I think there should be a better solution for the problem. It should be possible to imitate the grace note while taking the duration from the following note. Look for graceSettings in ly/engraver-init.ly for the full list of settings. The downside is that the grace note is aligned with the first note in other Staves, although it may be what you want: \score { \new PianoStaff \new Staff { \once \override Stem #'font-size = #-3 \once \override Flag #'font-size = #-3 % not for Lilypond 2.14 \once \override NoteHead #'font-size = #-3 \once \override Stem #'length-fraction = #0.8 g'8*1/2 _( c''4*3/4 ) d''4 } \new Staff { \clef bass c4 d4 } \layout {} } g'8*1/2 is shown as 1/8 but plays as 1/16. c''4*3/4 is shown as 1/4 but plays as 3/16. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the word LilyPond
Am 09.02.2012 12:45, schrieb Francisco Vila: Files attached. I dislike the binocles at the right hand side. Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development onLilyPond
- Original Message - From: Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com To: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu C) Development of score_ocr2ly, which would take a score pdf and turn it into .ly files matching the lilypond scoring standard Heh. This is a known problem, and the OCR part is very, very difficult. It also has nothing to do with lilypond. There are a number of commercial products that, given a perfect representation of a score, convert it to perfect musicXML - so it can't be that hard. It may simply be that the OS community do not generally have these skills. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support developmentonLilyPond
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org There are a number of commercial violinists. Does that mean that playing the violin can't be that hard? It's not. I know loads of fiddlers... -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
On 2/9/12 5:38 AM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Kickstarter is USA only. But someone in the USA can do a kickstarter project and spend the money any way they want to. I thought about kickstarter as well. But what would you promise the investors as return on the project? A free copy of LilyPond? Not much of an advantage for an open-source software package. Any thoughts you have on this subject would be welcome. It's much easier to put together a kickstarter proposal than a NEH grant. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:05:18 +0100 From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only? Message-ID: 874nv0nj2p@fencepost.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain Brent Annable brentanna...@gmail.com writes: Actually, now that I think about it, the default 'instrument' line behaviour in the header seems a little odd to me. Does the instrument really need to be so demonstratively announced between movements or pieces if they are all part of the same document? It is common for wind instrument players to have to switch instruments between parts. -- David Kastrup It might be somewhat common for wind musicians to switch instruments during the course of a multi-movement work, or even during a movement, but it is not common to notate which instrument to play (apart from the top of the page) UNTIL one has to change. I'm a horn player, so I'm not switching physical instruments except by my own choice (and I don't), but we frequently have different transpositions (which correspond to switching horns or crooks back in the old days) within a work, and I can assure you that the normal practice is to *assume* horn in F, until told otherwise. Clarinet players switch actual instruments more than anyone I'd say, and I don't play clarinet, so I can't speak to that, but I have a feeling that they likewise assume B-flat until they are told something else. Tim Reeves ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: override TupletNumber . Custom text
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:15:50 +0100 Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Hello, I like to work with full tuplet numbers because it makes it clear which version of quintuplet is meant (2:5 or 4:5). Since I don't like errors, however 'traditional' they may have become, I would like to change the 3:2 of a triplet in a more correct 2/3. How can I get this format into \override TupletNumber #'text = [...] %old: #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text { \override TupletNumber #'text = \markup { 2/3 } \times 2/3 { c'4 e' g' } } -- Regards, Pavel Roskin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the word LilyPond
9. feb. 2012 17.21 skrev Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net: Am 09.02.2012 12:45, schrieb Francisco Vila: Files attached. I dislike the binocles at the right hand side. I like those ;-) Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: override TupletNumber . Custom text
9. feb. 2012 19.25 skrev Pavel Roskin pro...@gnu.org: On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:15:50 +0100 Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Hello, I like to work with full tuplet numbers because it makes it clear which version of quintuplet is meant (2:5 or 4:5). Since I don't like errors, however 'traditional' they may have become, I would like to change the 3:2 of a triplet in a more correct 2/3. How can I get this format into \override TupletNumber #'text = [...] %old: #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text The original function is defined in scm/output-lib.scm, and can be modified easily: correctFraction = #(lambda (grob) (let ((ev (event-cause grob))) (format #f ~a/~a (ly:event-property ev 'numerator) (ly:event-property ev 'denominator { \override TupletNumber #'text = \correctFraction \times 2/3 { c'4 e' g' } } Jakob { \override TupletNumber #'text = \markup { 2/3 } \times 2/3 { c'4 e' g' } } -- Regards, Pavel Roskin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support developmentonLilyPond
On 9 February 2012 16:40, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org There are a number of commercial violinists. Does that mean that playing the violin can't be that hard? It's not. I know loads of fiddlers... Me too, one of them just got let off by HMRC and is now possible candidate for the England Manager ;) -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Tim Reeves wrote: Clarinet players switch actual instruments more than anyone I'd say, and I don't play clarinet, so I can't speak to that, but I have a feeling that they likewise assume B-flat until they are told something else. Band players can. Orchestral players really can't make assumptions. A survey of orchestral clarinet parts done a decade or so ago showed a distribution of about 40% clarinet in A, 40% clarinet in Bb, and 20% clarinet in C, with a smattering of other oddities. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: override TupletNumber . Custom text
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:50:24 +0100 jakob lund jakob.be...@gmail.com wrote: 9. feb. 2012 19.25 skrev Pavel Roskin pro...@gnu.org: On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:15:50 +0100 Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Hello, I like to work with full tuplet numbers because it makes it clear which version of quintuplet is meant (2:5 or 4:5). Since I don't like errors, however 'traditional' they may have become, I would like to change the 3:2 of a triplet in a more correct 2/3. How can I get this format into \override TupletNumber #'text = [...] %old: #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text The original function is defined in scm/output-lib.scm, and can be modified easily: Once I sent my reply, I realized that the poster was asking for something more automatic. So I started with tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text and tuplet-number::append-note-wrapper and reduced them to this: { #(define ((tuplet-fraction) grob) (let ((ev (event-cause grob))) (markup (format #f ~a/~a (ly:event-property ev 'numerator) (ly:event-property ev 'denominator) \override TupletNumber #'text = #(tuplet-fraction) \times 2/3 { c'4 e' g' } } -- Regards, Pavel Roskin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: override TupletNumber . Custom text
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:50:24 +0100 jakob lund jakob.be...@gmail.com wrote: 9. feb. 2012 19.25 skrev Pavel Roskin pro...@gnu.org: On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:15:50 +0100 Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Hello, I like to work with full tuplet numbers because it makes it clear which version of quintuplet is meant (2:5 or 4:5). Since I don't like errors, however 'traditional' they may have become, I would like to change the 3:2 of a triplet in a more correct 2/3. How can I get this format into \override TupletNumber #'text = [...] %old: #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text The original function is defined in scm/output-lib.scm, and can be modified easily: Thank you two very much. Finally there is no mistunderstanding anymore when seeing something like this: http://lily.sytes.net/v2k2ju/1 Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: override TupletNumber . Custom text
9. feb. 2012 21.13 skrev Nils l...@nilsgey.de: On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:50:24 +0100 jakob lund jakob.be...@gmail.com wrote: 9. feb. 2012 19.25 skrev Pavel Roskin pro...@gnu.org: On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:15:50 +0100 Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Hello, I like to work with full tuplet numbers because it makes it clear which version of quintuplet is meant (2:5 or 4:5). Since I don't like errors, however 'traditional' they may have become, I would like to change the 3:2 of a triplet in a more correct 2/3. How can I get this format into \override TupletNumber #'text = [...] %old: #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text The original function is defined in scm/output-lib.scm, and can be modified easily: Thank you two very much. Finally there is no mistunderstanding anymore when seeing something like this: http://lily.sytes.net/v2k2ju/1 All very well. However, in that example, the first bar appears to be only four beats, and the cause seems to be the Default_bar_line_engraver Isn't that wierd? The same happens here: http://lily.sytes.net/wi55ub/1 Is it some sort of bug or am I too long past my bedtime :-/ That is one neat web app btw! Jakob Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: repeat barlines with wings?
On 9 February 2012 04:50, Shevek s...@saultobin.com wrote: I'm used to seeing repeat barlines with wings (like in the picture I've attached). Is there a way to do this in Lilypond? http://old.nabble.com/file/p33290846/reapetbarsci9.png Yeah, that would be nice. You call it wings I think I call them big ears, don't know why! ;D I can't remind somebody doing such request and find nothing related on the LSR, in the doc or within the mailing lists archive, sorry. I think you could ask for it as a new feature request on the tracker, that would be one thing at least. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
For what it's worth, I know of several musicians who have successfully funded international Kickstarter projects. On Thursday, February 09, 2012 09:40:22 AM Carl Sorensen wrote: On 2/9/12 5:38 AM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Kickstarter is USA only. But someone in the USA can do a kickstarter project and spend the money any way they want to. I thought about kickstarter as well. But what would you promise the investors as return on the project? A free copy of LilyPond? Not much of an advantage for an open-source software package. Any thoughts you have on this subject would be welcome. It's much easier to put together a kickstarter proposal than a NEH grant. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Saul Tobin http://SaulTobin.com/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: override TupletNumber . Custom text
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:45:55 +0100 jakob lund jakob.be...@gmail.com wrote: All very well. However, in that example, the first bar appears to be only four beats, and the cause seems to be the Default_bar_line_engraver You mean it's three beats? Isn't that wierd? It's weird indeed. If Default_bar_line_engraver is placed above Timing_translator, then the beats are correct. The same happens here: http://lily.sytes.net/wi55ub/1 And here: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=673 That is one neat web app btw! Yes. But I wish Shift-Del and Shift-Ins worked as expected. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: repeat barlines with wings?
Hi Shevek, 2012/2/9 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com: On 9 February 2012 04:50, Shevek s...@saultobin.com wrote: I'm used to seeing repeat barlines with wings (like in the picture I've attached). Is there a way to do this in Lilypond? http://old.nabble.com/file/p33290846/reapetbarsci9.png Yeah, that would be nice. You call it wings I think I call them big ears, don't know why! ;D I can't remind somebody doing such request and find nothing related on the LSR, in the doc or within the mailing lists archive, sorry. I think you could ask for it as a new feature request on the tracker, that would be one thing at least. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user this was discussed in the german forum some time ago: http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=879.0 We developed the attached work-around. BTW in output-lib.scm you can find brace and bracket in the bar-glyph-alist. AFAIK they aren't used anywhere. So any work-around has to fiddle about the line-breaks. HTH, Harm P.S. Please note that the file uses 2.12.3. \version 2.12.3 \layout { indent = 10 short-indent = 10 } \paper { ragged-right =##f } #(define-markup-command (lthskip layout props amount) (number?) ;; lthskip = line-thickness skip (let ((l-th (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'line-thickness))) (ly:make-stencil (cons 0 (* amount l-th)) '(0 . 0) ))) #(define my-bar-glyph-alist '((:|: . (:| . |: #(define (my-bar-line::calc-glyph-name grob) (let* ( ; inlined this from lily-library.scm, since it isn't public (index-cell (lambda (cell dir) (if (equal? dir 1) (cdr cell) (car cell (glyph (ly:grob-property grob 'glyph)) (dir (ly:item-break-dir grob)) (result (assoc glyph my-bar-glyph-alist)) (glyph-name (if (= dir CENTER) glyph (if (and result (string? (index-cell (cdr result) dir))) (index-cell (cdr result) -1) #f))) ) glyph-name)) #(define (rotate-at-line-begin g) Rotate an item, but only at the start of the line. (if (and (ly:item? g) (equal? (ly:item-break-dir g) RIGHT)) (ly:grob-set-property! g 'rotation (list 180 0 0)) )) startRepeatBracket = { \once \override Staff.BarLine #'stencil = #(lambda (grob) (ly:stencil-add (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:bar-line::print grob) Y UP (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:musicglyph brackettips.up)) -0.1 0) (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:bar-line::print grob) Y DOWN (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:musicglyph brackettips.down)) -0.1 0))) \bar |: } stopRepeatBracket = { \once \override Staff.BarLine #'stencil = #(lambda (grob) (ly:stencil-add (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:bar-line::print grob) Y UP (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:concat ( #:lthskip 6 #:right-align #:rotate 180 #:musicglyph brackettips.down ))) -0.1 0) (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:bar-line::print grob) Y DOWN (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:concat ( #:lthskip 6 #:right-align #:rotate 180 #:musicglyph brackettips.up ))) -0.1 0))) \bar :| } combinedRepeatBracket = { \once \override Staff.BarLine #'stencil = #(lambda (grob) (ly:stencil-add (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:bar-line::print grob) Y UP (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:concat ( #:lthskip 3 #:concat ( #:right-align #:vcenter #:rotate 180 #:musicglyph brackettips.down #:lthskip 3 #:vcenter #:musicglyph brackettips.up -0.1 0) (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:bar-line::print grob) Y DOWN (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:concat ( #:lthskip 3 #:concat ( #:right-align #:vcenter #:rotate 180 #:musicglyph brackettips.up #:lthskip 3 #:vcenter #:musicglyph brackettips.down -0.1 0))) \bar :|: } Break = { \once\override Staff.BarLine #'glyph-name = #my-bar-line::calc-glyph-name \once\override Staff.BarLine #'after-line-breaking = #rotate-at-line-begin \bar :|: \break } %- Test %#(set-global-staff-size 11.22) %% smallest recommended staff size #(set-global-staff-size 20) %% default
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
2012/2/9 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: On 2/9/12 5:38 AM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Kickstarter is USA only. But someone in the USA can do a kickstarter project and spend the money any way they want to. I thought about kickstarter as well. But what would you promise the investors as return on the project? A free copy of LilyPond? Not much of an advantage for an open-source software package. Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous piece (like Mozart's Requiem)? The funds would be split between typesetter and programmer who implements necessary features. I could do the typesetting part. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
2012/2/9 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous piece (like Mozart's Requiem)? The funds would be split between typesetter and programmer who implements necessary features. I could do the typesetting part. And if you add a musician that would do a recording of the piece and release it for free (as in free software, not only free beer) you would obtain something like the Open Goldberg Variations project. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/293573191/open-goldberg-variations-setting-bach-free There it's MuseScore that is used as typesetting software. http://musescore.org/en/node/10118 There is also the idea of a LilyPond score sharing website, similar to musescore.com . http://musescore.com/upgrade As I said: IIRC lasconic (Nicolas Froment) said the 3 main developers of MuseScore (Werner Schweer, Thomas Bonte and himself) are now working full-time on MuseScore [thanks to their fundings]. Several users/contributers, including Janek, showed some interest in a MuseScore-LilyPond synergy. BTW I have read that there is a project of Smart coupling between Audiveris (open-source Optical Music Recognition) and MuseScore. http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/audiveris A kind of synergy (in both directions) between the file format of musescore and .ly would also allow a conversion musicxml - musescore - .ly . Don't know if that would be easy though. I sent an e-mail to lasconic to have further informations about all I say (all I kind of remember). Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:04:35 +0100 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/2/9 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous piece (like Mozart's Requiem)? The funds would be split between typesetter and programmer who implements necessary features. I could do the typesetting part. And if you add a musician that would do a recording of the piece and release it for free (as in free software, not only free beer) you would obtain something like the Open Goldberg Variations project. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/293573191/open-goldberg-variations-setting-bach-free There it's MuseScore that is used as typesetting software. http://musescore.org/en/node/10118 There is also the idea of a LilyPond score sharing website, similar to musescore.com . http://musescore.com/upgrade As I said: IIRC lasconic (Nicolas Froment) said the 3 main developers of MuseScore (Werner Schweer, Thomas Bonte and himself) are now working full-time on MuseScore [thanks to their fundings]. Several users/contributers, including Janek, showed some interest in a MuseScore-LilyPond synergy. BTW I have read that there is a project of Smart coupling between Audiveris (open-source Optical Music Recognition) and MuseScore. http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/audiveris A kind of synergy (in both directions) between the file format of musescore and .ly would also allow a conversion musicxml - musescore - .ly . Don't know if that would be easy though. I sent an e-mail to lasconic to have further informations about all I say (all I kind of remember). Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com Don't use musescore. Lilypond Musescore is like Photoshop and MS Paint. Just because there is no famous GUI which is made for Lilypond does not mean to take the second best. Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
2012/2/9 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com: 2012/2/9 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous piece (like Mozart's Requiem)? The funds would be split between typesetter and programmer who implements necessary features. I could do the typesetting part. And if you add a musician that would do a recording of the piece and release it for free (as in free software, not only free beer) you would obtain something like the Open Goldberg Variations project. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/293573191/open-goldberg-variations-setting-bach-free There it's MuseScore that is used as typesetting software. 8O $23 000... Unbelievable!! So simple and so effective. Heck, let's do it! Do you know of any famous pieces of music without freely accessible scores? I have only one shot now, but it isn't perfect: Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings was composed in 1936 but the composer died not-so-long-ago (1981). Still, it's possible that in some countries the work itself might be out of copyright. Several users/contributers, including Janek, showed some interest in a MuseScore-LilyPond synergy. BTW I have read that there is a project of Smart coupling between Audiveris (open-source Optical Music Recognition) and MuseScore. http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/audiveris A kind of synergy (in both directions) between the file format of musescore and .ly would also allow a conversion musicxml - musescore - .ly . I feel motivated to write down my thoughts on this topic :) cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:00:21AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: Do you know of any famous pieces of music without freely accessible scores? I have only one shot now, but it isn't perfect: Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings was composed in 1936 but the composer died not-so-long-ago (1981). Still, it's possible that in some countries the work itself might be out of copyright. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, but I believe that this work is still in copyright in every country that is a signatory to the Berne convention -- which means pretty much everywhere. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Brent Annable wrote: Ok, so it looks like I need to include print-all-headers = ##t, and then suppress the 'instrument' line in all subsequent scores. that will probably not be sufficient… Can someone direct me to a document describing how to do that? My search didn't reveal anything. I couldn't find a detailed documentation. I never have used this before, but I stumbled over customizing the oddFooterMarkup when trying to include score variables (book variables seem to work). if I don't succeed soon I'll file a report/question on the bug list. Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Instrument-line-in-header-block---first-piece-only--tp33292446p33297275.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond
On 10/02/12 10:00, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/2/9 Xavier Scheuerx.sche...@gmail.com: 2012/2/9 Janek Warchołjanek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous piece (like Mozart's Requiem)? The funds would be split between typesetter and programmer who implements necessary features. I could do the typesetting part. And if you add a musician that would do a recording of the piece and release it for free (as in free software, not only free beer) you would obtain something like the Open Goldberg Variations project. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/293573191/open-goldberg-variations-setting-bach-free There it's MuseScore that is used as typesetting software. 8O $23 000... Unbelievable!! So simple and so effective. Heck, let's do it! Do you know of any famous pieces of music without freely accessible scores? I have only one shot now, but it isn't perfect: Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings was composed in 1936 but the composer died not-so-long-ago (1981). Still, it's possible that in some countries the work itself might be out of copyright. The minimum required by the Berne convention is 50 years beyond the authors death before a work becomes public domain. Here in Australia, as in the US and EU, it's 70 years. So if Barber died in 1981, his works won't become public domain until 2051. And depending on the country, the publication from which you were working would also have had to be published before 1981. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Instrument line in header block - first piece only?
Hi, 2012/2/10 -Eluze elu...@gmail.com: Brent Annable wrote: Ok, so it looks like I need to include print-all-headers = ##t, and then suppress the 'instrument' line in all subsequent scores. that will probably not be sufficient… Can someone direct me to a document describing how to do that? My search didn't reveal anything. I couldn't find a detailed documentation. I never have used this before, but I stumbled over customizing the oddFooterMarkup when trying to include score variables (book variables seem to work). if I don't succeed soon I'll file a report/question on the bug list. Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Instrument-line-in-header-block---first-piece-only--tp33292446p33297275.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user regarding titling-init.ly I think it's not a bug but intended behaviour. Of course scoreTitleMarkup can be redefined: \version 2.14.2 myScoreTitle = \markup { \override #'(baseline-skip . 3.5) \column { \fill-line { \fromproperty #'header:dedication } \override #'(baseline-skip . 3.5) \column { \huge \larger \bold \fill-line { \larger \fromproperty #'header:title } \fill-line { \large \smaller \bold \larger \fromproperty #'header:subtitle } \fill-line { \smaller \bold \fromproperty #'header:subsubtitle } \fill-line { \fromproperty #'header:poet % { \large \bold \fromproperty #'header:instrument } \null %\fromproperty #'header:composer } \fill-line { \fromproperty #'header:meter \fromproperty #'header:arranger } \fill-line { \fromproperty #'header:piece \fromproperty #'header:opus } } } } music = \relative c' { \repeat unfold 10 { c1 \break } \pageBreak \repeat unfold 10 { c1 \break } \bar |. } \paper { ragged-right = ##f ragged-last-bottom = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = \myScoreTitle } \book { \header { title = Das Wohltemperierte Clavier composer = J.S. Bach instrument = Superius } % quick and dirty hack \markup \vspace #3 \score { \new Staff \music \header { title = FUGA I piece = a 4 } } \pageBreak \score { \new Staff \music \header { title = FUGA II piece = a 4 } } } See also: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-02/msg00184.html HTH, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Stem separating dot from notehead
With overlapping parts, Lilypond defaults to separating a dot from its notehead by placing the overlapping stem in between. According to Gould (p.57) this is incorrect. The overlapped stem should be placed after the dot. \version 2.15.25 \relative c' { { c2 s c'4. } \\ { g2. s4 c, } \\ { s1 g'4 } } Nick attachment: test.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user