Re: Rolled Chord
Hi Mark, My limited experience with the computer language for commands suggests two things. 1. The command requires a = t. It should be tieWaitForNote = t. 2. Commands can contain other symbols, \, ' (apostrophe), and #. This got much easier in recent versions of LilyPond. Which version do you use? You can (for most settings) now forget about the #'. The scheme value 'true' is still ##t. The only counter-intuitive thing left is the # after the = . That leads to what you’ve already found by now: tieWaitForNote = ##t Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: understanding midi files
Johan Vromas: k...@aspodata.se writes: IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'aeiou.mid' $ ls -l aeiou.mid -rw--- 1 karl users 9760 Jan 27 10:44 aeiou.mid To eliminate some odds, try passing the file using a complete path, e.g. $ lilymidi --pretty `pwd`/aeiou.mid $ lilymidi --pretty /home/karl/examples/aeiou.mid | head Filename: /home/karl/examples/aeiou.mid MIDI format: 1 (one or more simultaneous tracks) Divisions:768 per whole note #Tracks: 10 Track 1: Time 0: Track name: A-e-i-o-u Copyright: TM: trad. occitan. / Marc H?nsenberger Q: Musique Simili: Falbalas. Ins-Anet 1998 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/lilymidi, line 250, in module go () File /usr/local/bin/lilymidi, line 234, in go dump_midi (midi_data, midi_file, options); File /usr/local/bin/lilymidi, line 224, in dump_midi dump_event (ev[1], time, ); File /usr/local/bin/lilymidi, line 192, in dump_event print padding + f.format (ev[1], ev[2]) IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe $ Ok, full path made it work, but why does it complain so verbosely about broken pipe, pipeing things to e.g. head is normal behaviour, it should not complain about that. /// Also: ** lilymidi output: ... Divisions:768 per whole note ... Track 1: ... Tempo: 50 msec/quarter Time signature: 1/8, metronome 1/4 ** midi.pl output: ... 'ticks' = 192, # Track #0 ... ['set_tempo', 0, 50], ['time_signature', 0, 1, 3, 24, 8], ... ** lilymidi code: class time_signature_formatter (formatter): def format_vals (self, val1, val2 = ): from fractions import Fraction # if there are more notated 32nd notes per midi quarter than 8, # we display a fraction smaller than 1 as scale factor. r = Fraction(8, ord (val2[3])) if r == 1: ratio = else: ratio = * + str (r) return str (ord (val2[0])) + / + str(1 ord (val2[1])) + ratio \ + , metronome + str (Fraction (ord (val2[2]), 96)) = Why does lilymidi treat val2[3] as a multiplier and where comes the 96 from (in relation to val2[2]) ? http://www.cdik.se/pdf/midiformat.pdf describes the time signature event on page 12. It is unclear written. Is there anyone here that have a clear understanding about the last two parameters, named cc and bb in the document ? And page 4 describes ticks per quarter-note where the quater note isn't nessesarily a quarter note. The text says something like cc number of ticks in metronome click bb number of 32nd notes to the quarter note So if I have a 6/8 key signature, the beat is two per measure (on 4. in lilypond notation), but the text confuses the reader with expressions like quarter note, MIDI quarter note and metronome click. Where obviously the quarter note isn't a normal quater note. Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: understanding midi files
k...@aspodata.se writes: Johan Vromas: k...@aspodata.se writes: IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'aeiou.mid' $ ls -l aeiou.mid -rw--- 1 karl users 9760 Jan 27 10:44 aeiou.mid To eliminate some odds, try passing the file using a complete path, e.g. $ lilymidi --pretty `pwd`/aeiou.mid $ lilymidi --pretty /home/karl/examples/aeiou.mid | head Filename: /home/karl/examples/aeiou.mid MIDI format: 1 (one or more simultaneous tracks) Divisions:768 per whole note #Tracks: 10 Track 1: Time 0: Track name: A-e-i-o-u Copyright: TM: trad. occitan. / Marc H?nsenberger Q: Musique Simili: Falbalas. Ins-Anet 1998 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/lilymidi, line 250, in module go () File /usr/local/bin/lilymidi, line 234, in go dump_midi (midi_data, midi_file, options); File /usr/local/bin/lilymidi, line 224, in dump_midi dump_event (ev[1], time, ); File /usr/local/bin/lilymidi, line 192, in dump_event print padding + f.format (ev[1], ev[2]) IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe $ Ok, full path made it work, Great. The reason I asked was that I assumed lilymidi to be a script that internally 'change directory' for some reason. but why does it complain so verbosely about broken pipe, pipeing things to e.g. head is normal behaviour, it should not complain about that. Sending output to a pipe and then closing the pipe before the program is finished produces an IO error. It is up to the program to decide whether to ignore this IO error. Personally, I think it's good to signal the error. 'ticks' = 192, # Track #0 ... ['set_tempo', 0, 50], ['time_signature', 0, 1, 3, 24, 8], Weird time sig. 1/8 ? where comes the 96 from (in relation to val2[2]) ? There are several constants that are used in MIDI. Most of them originate from the initial, serial protocols used to transmit MIDI messages between devices. I can't explain them either. -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Horizontal TupletBrackets?
Thanks for the suggestion, David!
I find it to be easier, though, to override the positions manually instead
of generally overriding them with your code and then having to offset
almost every position again.
It might be useful in another use case, though, so I’m saving your code for
future use. Thanks!
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2014-01-25 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com
Hi Peter,
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Peter Crighton petecrigh...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi List,
is there a way to have all TupletBrackets in a score be horizontal
without altering every single one?
[...]
In a drum score I think it’s preferable to have all Beams and
TupletBrackets horizontal as this helps with reading. For Beams there is
the possibility of \override Beam.damping = #+inf.0, but I can’t find
anything similar for TupletBrackets.
I also don't find a convenient way to ask for horizontal tuplet brackets.
Rather than setting 'positions for each bracket, you could do the
following:
\version 2.18.0
#(define flat-brackets
(lambda (grob)
(let* ((pos (ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-positions grob))
(dir (ly:grob-property grob 'direction))
(y (if (= UP dir)
(max (car pos) (cdr pos))
(min (car pos) (cdr pos)
(cons y y
\new DrumVoice {
\drummode {
\voiceOne
\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
%\override TupletBracket.direction = #DOWN
\override TupletBracket.positions = #flat-brackets
\tuplet 3/2 {
hh sn4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8
\once \offset positions #-0.3 TupletBracket %
hh sn4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8
}
}
}
%%%
This uses the default value of 'positions, and simply selects one of the
left/right values to use for both left and right.
Of course, you then can't override positions again for fine-tuning of the
flattened brackets. (I notice that the first bracket could be lower, for
example).
Here you can use \once \offset, which will take effect on the values from
the flat-brackets override, displacing them from where they are. It must
be \once to get this accumulating effect. (I do this in the example above.)
HTH,
David
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Re: understanding midi files
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 13:42 +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: 'ticks' = 192, # Track #0 ... ['set_tempo', 0, 50], ['time_signature', 0, 1, 3, 24, 8], Weird time sig. 1/8 ? I have seen used in a MIDI file to indicate a 1/8 upbeat (anacrusis, pickup), the generator of that MIDI however placed the succeeding 4/4 time signature at the same time rather than after a 1/8th note's duration. HTH Richard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: understanding midi files
Richard Shann: On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 13:42 +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: 'ticks' = 192, # Track #0 ... ['set_tempo', 0, 50], ['time_signature', 0, 1, 3, 24, 8], Weird time sig. 1/8 ? I have seen used in a MIDI file to indicate a 1/8 upbeat (anacrusis, pickup), the generator of that MIDI however placed the succeeding 4/4 time signature at the same time rather than after a 1/8th note's duration. Yes, correct, it's an upbeat, after 1/8'th time a 6/8 time sig. comes, and at the end of the piece a 5/8 time sig comes, well as usual with upbeats. It seems to be midi's way of representing thoose things. Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do I get Emacs mode?
On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 19:54 -0500, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: Just a question or two, based on my own experience. Did you first remove (or purge) LilyPond 2.14.2 before installing 2.18.0? Otherwise, your system may still be using the older installation. Yes, I removed 2.14.2 using the Ubuntu Software Centre. Also, where did you install the latest version? If I remember correctly, the automatic installation of 2.14.2 places the bin files in /usr/bin. To keep this consistent, I installed LilyPond 2.18.0 in /usr/, using the --prefix argument. I used the default, which installed LilyPond into /usr/local/lilypond, with links in /usr/local/bin. Third, have you established that the .el files are exact copies by using a program like diff? Yes To be utterly safe, I always remove the old .el files (which even purging will not remove) and replace them with the .el files found in the new installation. Lastly, if you use the info files to read the manuals, be sure to move them from their original location to the /usr/share/info directory; otherwise, you will not have access to them by the normal means. Hwaen Ch'uqi What manuals? I don't seem to have any. One of the things I liked about the Ubuntu installation of LilyPond 2.14.2 was that the html manuals were installed on my hard drive and so were available all of the time. I don't seem to have that for 2.18.0 and can only view the manuals via the LilyPond website, but I should very much like to install them on my machines if possible - I can't always rely on having a usable wifi connection with my netbook. Incidentally, both the pieces I have set so far now compile correctly under 2.18.0, without errors. And, yes, even the misaligned dynamics, which were the reason for my original question, are corrected now. Thanks for all your help. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: understanding midi files
On 28.01.2014, at 12:24, k...@aspodata.se wrote: http://www.cdik.se/pdf/midiformat.pdf describes the time signature event on page 12. It is unclear written. Is there anyone here that have a clear understanding about the last two parameters, named cc and bb in the document ? And page 4 describes ticks per quarter-note where the quater note isn't nessesarily a quarter note. The text says something like ccnumber of ticks in metronome click bbnumber of 32nd notes to the quarter note So if I have a 6/8 key signature, the beat is two per measure (on 4. in lilypond notation), but the text confuses the reader with expressions like quarter note, MIDI quarter note and metronome click. Where obviously the quarter note isn't a normal quater note. I don't agree. I read it the following way (p. 4 and 12): cc: there are two formats of dividing (delta) time: metrical time and time-code-based time. The former is measured in divisions / ticks / clocks of a quarter note. (A quarter is always a quarter note.) For instance, if division is 96, then a time interval of an eighth-note between two events in the file would be 48. This means that a dotted-quarter note includes in this case 144 (96 * 1.5 or 48 * 3) ticks / clocks. If the divisions value for a quarter note is 24 than the number of MIDI clocks in a dotted-quarter note is 36 (24 * 1.5 or 12 * 3). bb: The bb parameter expresses the number of notated 32nd-notes in a […] quarter note […]. (I left out the word MIDI because it confused you. Just think of a normal quarter note.) If you would like to notate quarter notes than bb equals to 8 (8/32 = 1/4). If you want to notate eighth notes than bb should be 4…. I found a footnote in Beyond Midi – The Handbook of Musical Codes (Ed.: E. Selfridge Field, 1997, p. 54) which might be helpful to further illustrate the bb parameter. The footnote also shows the (MIDI) limitations of subdivising quarter notes by 32nds: The intention of bb is to allow for the distinction between duple and triple subdivisions of the beat. Multiple mixed compounds (duple at one level, triple at the adjacent level) are possible. However, 32 is not a large enough number to handle multiple rhythms of any significant complexity. For example, in the duple subdivision of the quarter note, an eighth note would be equivalent to four 32nd notes; a sixteenth note would be equivalent to two 32nd notes, etc. For triple subdivisions of the quarter note, 48 and 96 are more convenient numbers to use, and in the classical repertory many instances are encountered in which still larger multiples (or, in other file formats, floating-point arithmetic) are required for clarity and accuracy. hth patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do I get Emacs mode?
2014-01-28 David Sumbler da...@aeolia.co.uk What manuals? I don't seem to have any. One of the things I liked about the Ubuntu installation of LilyPond 2.14.2 was that the html manuals were installed on my hard drive and so were available all of the time. I don't seem to have that for 2.18.0 and can only view the manuals via the LilyPond website, but I should very much like to install them on my machines if possible - I can't always rely on having a usable wifi connection with my netbook. you can install the generic package with the --doc option but be aware of this bug: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3768 you can avoid the bug by entering the directory where you have saved the file, then type: sudo sh lilypond-version.sh --doc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
standard staff sizes
1. Is there a world wide standard for staff sizes? No. 2. Are Rastral Staff Sizes always the same? I once found a different list of rastral sizes. The differences are on the level of 2%, but I wonder if there is some official reference. No. The idea is always the same but there are several different values around. Some agree and differ only because they are rounded differently to fractions of mm or inches. A comparison will follow from my side. As an addition to my previous mail, you can find a comparison of different rastral sizes (staff sizes) here: http://joramberger.de/files/rastral.pdf And similarly, the meaning of tempo markings according to the German and English Wikipedia: http://joramberger.de/files/tempo.pdf Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do I get Emacs mode?
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 15:09 +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: 2014-01-28 David Sumbler da...@aeolia.co.uk What manuals? I don't seem to have any. One of the things I liked about the Ubuntu installation of LilyPond 2.14.2 was that the html manuals were installed on my hard drive and so were available all of the time. I don't seem to have that for 2.18.0 and can only view the manuals via the LilyPond website, but I should very much like to install them on my machines if possible - I can't always rely on having a usable wifi connection with my netbook. you can install the generic package with the --doc option but be aware of this bug: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3768 you can avoid the bug by entering the directory where you have saved the file, then type: sudo sh lilypond-version.sh --doc Thanks for that. I've now installed the html files, and it's all working fine. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Rolled Chord
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes: Hi Mark, My limited experience with the computer language for commands suggests two things. 1. The command requires a = t. It should be tieWaitForNote = t. 2. Commands can contain other symbols, \, ' (apostrophe), and #. This got much easier in recent versions of LilyPond. Not really. It's still gobbledygook but you can get along with less ook in it. Which means that it's easier to get right if you don't know what you are doing. But it's not really easier to actually understand what you are doing. Which version do you use? You can (for most settings) now forget about the #'. The scheme value 'true' is still ##t. The only counter-intuitive thing left is the # after the = . That leads to what you’ve already found by now: tieWaitForNote = ##t Yup. In a context definition or modification. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Rolled Chord
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote: This got much easier in recent versions of LilyPond. Which version do you use? You can (for most settings) now forget about the #'. The scheme value 'true' is still ##t. Is that true? I'm no Scheme expert, but I thought that the first # told Lily that you are using Scheme code, and #t was the Scheme value for true. -- Tim Slattery tim at risingdove dot com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Rolled Chord
This got much easier in recent versions of LilyPond. Which version do you use? You can (for most settings) now forget about the #'. The scheme value 'true' is still ##t. Is that true? I'm no Scheme expert, but I thought that the first # told Lily that you are using Scheme code, and #t was the Scheme value for true. Yes, you are right. But if you are just settings variables to true in ly syntax, then I often consider this combination ##t as the LilyPond value for true. Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Rolled Chord
Gentlemen, I have tried both (in 2.18), \set tieWaitForNote = ##t, works \set tieWaitForNote = #t, does not work. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Noeck Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:12 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Rolled Chord This got much easier in recent versions of LilyPond. Which version do you use? You can (for most settings) now forget about the #'. The scheme value 'true' is still ##t. Is that true? I'm no Scheme expert, but I thought that the first # told Lily that you are using Scheme code, and #t was the Scheme value for true. Yes, you are right. But if you are just settings variables to true in ly syntax, then I often consider this combination ##t as the LilyPond value for true. Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \bendBefore
Am 27.01.2014 21:38, schrieb Xavier Noria: A web search shows \bendBefore is not implemented. I have tried some snippets found out there but failed to get the bends (using LilyJAZZ if that matters). I need the bend to indicate how to attack certain notes in saxophone scores. Does anybody have a modern snippet to share? I stumbled upon http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-07/msg00379.html Maybe this is of some help? Or did you try this already? Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Rolled Chord
Gentlemen, I have tried both (in 2.18), \set tieWaitForNote = ##t, works \set tieWaitForNote = #t, does not work. Mark I think nobody said that it should work. In both ways of thinking, you need ##t - switch to scheme syntax with # and then the scheme true value #t (this is what actually happens), i.e. ##t - lilypond true combination ##t Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Rolled Chord
Joram, Thank you for the explanation. Having no knowledge or experience with Scheme, I did not know the need for, or purpose of, the hash mark(s), # or ##. My initial inquiry was prompted by locating the command tieWaitForNote (boolean). I understand boolean. Of the use of \set and the hash marks, I did not. Learning some basic syntax and grammar of Scheme would help me. Any suggestions? Mark -Original Message- From: Noeck [mailto:noeck.marb...@gmx.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:44 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Rolled Chord Gentlemen, I have tried both (in 2.18), \set tieWaitForNote = ##t, works \set tieWaitForNote = #t, does not work. Mark I think nobody said that it should work. In both ways of thinking, you need ##t - switch to scheme syntax with # and then the scheme true value #t (this is what actually happens), i.e. ##t - lilypond true combination ##t Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Rolled Chord
Hi Mark,
I think you do not really need scheme for what you want to do here. You
just need to know, that LilyPond uses the # sign to switch to the scheme
mode and properties are set or overriden with scheme values.
#(here you can put a whole scheme function)
or just a single value
#scheme-value
The whole section
5.2 Explaining the Internals Reference
of the notation reference would be interesting for you, in particular:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/layout-interfaces
Am 28.01.2014 18:53, schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:
inquiry was prompted by locating the command tieWaitForNote (boolean). I
understand boolean. Of the use of \set and the hash marks, I did not.
What you need to know in addition is the context: Voice.
And that boolean in scheme means #t (true) or #f (false).
Then there is this annoying distiction between graphical objects and
context properties which is explained here:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/set-versus-override.html
For your case it is a context property of the Voice context, that means
you need \set (not \override).
\set Voice.tieWaitForNote = ##t
Voice can be omitted (Staff not), so you can write:
\set tieWaitForNote = ##t
If it was not boolean but for example a number like:
\set Staff.fontSize = #4
then you still need one # after the =
and because it is not the lowest context, you need to write Staff.
Does it get clearer now?
Cheers,
Joram
PS: If you are not tired yet: This was true for changes within music
expressions, i.e. within { }. You can change settings in \layout blocks
(inside and outside of scores) and \with statements and the syntax is
slightly different. If you need this and the manuals aren’t clear
enough, please ask again.
PPS: I still dream of this syntax:
\set Context.[GraphicalObject.]property = 4
everywhere.
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Re: \bendBefore
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Xavier Noria f...@hashref.com wrote:
A web search shows \bendBefore is not implemented. I have tried some
snippets found out there but failed to get the bends (using LilyJAZZ if that
matters).
I need the bend to indicate how to attack certain notes in saxophone scores.
Does anybody have a modern snippet to share?
If you'll bear with me here, I find \bendAfter to be rather ugly and
not at all like the slides I've seen in jazz lead sheets. (For one, it
stops where the next note starts, usually creating a curve that's too
long or too short on the horizontal axis.) I prefer a different
approach to bends, which looks nicer and is also easily extensible to
something like a \bendBefore.
Anyways, something like the following has served me well:
#(define (scoop-stencil grob)
(ly:stencil-add
(ly:note-head::print grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup #:with-dimensions '(0 . 0) '(0 . 0)
#:translate '(-0.2 . -0.5)
#:path 0.25 '((moveto 0 0)
(curveto 0 -1 -1 -1.5 -1.5 -1.5))
scoop = \once \override NoteHead #'stencil = #scoop-stencil
\new Staff { \scoop c''4 }
The bend has fixed size and position. That's usually good enough for
me, but if you require many bends of different sizes, this should be
adapted into a music function.
(SMuFL has a bunch of nice pre-built bend glyphs; you can also use
those if you wish.)
Regards,
Nathan
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Re: Rolled Chord
Hi,
here is a little table how to change the defaults. You need to know if
it is a context property or an object property and if you want to apply
it for globally (layout), for a score (layout), for a specific context
(with), at a point in time of the music (music) or for a single object
(tweak).
in blocksetting context properties
setting graphical object properties
---
\layout \context { \Context \set prop = #val }
\context { \Context \override Grob.prop = #val }
or\set Context.prop = #val
\override Context.Grob.prop = #val
\with \set prop = #val
\override Grob.prop = #val
music \set Context.prop = #val
\override Context.Grob.prop = #val
tweak (not for context properties)
-\tweak #prop #val
Context = Voice, Staff, …
Grob = NoteHead, Clef, …
prop = color, X-offset, transparent, …
val = red, 1.0, #t, #f, …
Cheers,
Joram
PS: Is something useful like this table in the docs somewhere?
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RE: Rolled Chord
Joram,
Thank you for the table. Speaking only for myself, it does answer many
questions.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Noeck [mailto:noeck.marb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rolled Chord
Hi,
here is a little table how to change the defaults. You need to know if it is a
context property or an object property and if you want to apply it for globally
(layout), for a score (layout), for a specific context (with), at a point in
time of the music (music) or for a single object (tweak).
in blocksetting context properties
setting graphical object properties
---
\layout \context { \Context \set prop = #val }
\context { \Context \override Grob.prop = #val }
or\set Context.prop = #val
\override Context.Grob.prop = #val
\with \set prop = #val
\override Grob.prop = #val
music \set Context.prop = #val
\override Context.Grob.prop = #val
tweak (not for context properties)
-\tweak #prop #val
Context = Voice, Staff, …
Grob = NoteHead, Clef, …
prop = color, X-offset, transparent, …
val = red, 1.0, #t, #f, …
Cheers,
Joram
PS: Is something useful like this table in the docs somewhere?
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RE: Rolled Chord
Joram,
You exemplify the best of what the user's group has to offer. Thank you for
promoting my learning of Lilypond!
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Noeck [mailto:noeck.marb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:27 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rolled Chord
Hi Mark,
I think you do not really need scheme for what you want to do here. You just
need to know, that LilyPond uses the # sign to switch to the scheme mode and
properties are set or overriden with scheme values.
#(here you can put a whole scheme function)
or just a single value
#scheme-value
The whole section
5.2 Explaining the Internals Reference
of the notation reference would be interesting for you, in particular:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/layout-interfaces
Am 28.01.2014 18:53, schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:
inquiry was prompted by locating the command tieWaitForNote (boolean). I
understand boolean. Of the use of \set and the hash marks, I did not.
What you need to know in addition is the context: Voice.
And that boolean in scheme means #t (true) or #f (false).
Then there is this annoying distiction between graphical objects and context
properties which is explained here:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/set-versus-override.html
For your case it is a context property of the Voice context, that means you
need \set (not \override).
\set Voice.tieWaitForNote = ##t
Voice can be omitted (Staff not), so you can write:
\set tieWaitForNote = ##t
If it was not boolean but for example a number like:
\set Staff.fontSize = #4
then you still need one # after the =
and because it is not the lowest context, you need to write Staff.
Does it get clearer now?
Cheers,
Joram
PS: If you are not tired yet: This was true for changes within music
expressions, i.e. within { }. You can change settings in \layout blocks (inside
and outside of scores) and \with statements and the syntax is slightly
different. If you need this and the manuals aren’t clear enough, please ask
again.
PPS: I still dream of this syntax:
\set Context.[GraphicalObject.]property = 4 everywhere.
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Re: Rolled Chord
Hi Mark,
glad that I could help. The table has some mistakes:
- no \set in \with and \context
- no # for first tweak argument
You might find more.
It should read:
in blocksetting context properties
setting graphical object properties
---
\layout \context { \Context prop = #val }
\context { \Context \override Grob.prop = #val }
or\set Context.prop = #val
\override Context.Grob.prop = #val
\with prop = #val
\override Grob.prop = #val
music \set Context.prop = #val
\override Context.Grob.prop = #val
tweak (not for context properties)
\tweak prop #val
Cheers,
Joram
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Re: standard staff sizes
2014-01-28 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de: As an addition to my previous mail, you can find a comparison of different rastral sizes (staff sizes) here: http://joramberger.de/files/rastral.pdf that's really nice, thanks a lot! Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Rolled Chord
Joram,
Noted and thank you again.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Noeck [mailto:noeck.marb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:01 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rolled Chord
Hi Mark,
glad that I could help. The table has some mistakes:
- no \set in \with and \context
- no # for first tweak argument
You might find more.
It should read:
in blocksetting context properties
setting graphical object properties
---
\layout \context { \Context prop = #val }
\context { \Context \override Grob.prop = #val }
or\set Context.prop = #val
\override Context.Grob.prop = #val
\with prop = #val
\override Grob.prop = #val
music \set Context.prop = #val
\override Context.Grob.prop = #val
tweak (not for context properties)
\tweak prop #val
Cheers,
Joram
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Re: Frescobaldi on Mac installation instructions moved to Frescobaldi's wiki
Davide Liessi-2 wrote the installation instructions for Frescobaldi on Mac OS X have been moved to Frescobaldi's wiki (https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki). Thanks Davide! The migration instructions worked well for me. However, there was one line in them that was unclear to me: You may delete the Portfile repository directory, even though it doesn’t interfere with the installation. Which directory is this? (Not a big deal, since this is optional...) Thanks again! -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Frescobaldi-on-Mac-installation-instructions-moved-to-Frescobaldi-s-wiki-tp158539p158596.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi on Mac installation instructions moved to Frescobaldi's wiki
Dear Paul, 2014-01-28 Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com: The migration instructions worked well for me. I'm glad to hear this. However, there was one line in them that was unclear to me: You may delete the Portfile repository directory, even though it doesn’t interfere with the installation. Which directory is this? (Not a big deal, since this is optional...) My wording is actually unclear. I meant the directory in which you cloned my Portfile repository (https://github.com/dliessi/ports) when you first used it. The line that you deleted in /opt/local/etc/macports/sources.conf contained the path to that directory. It could be a directory in your home folder (e.g. ~/github/ports), or maybe /opt/dliessi. I'll clarify and update the instructions later. Best wishes. Davide ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \bendBefore
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Nathan when.possi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Xavier Noria f...@hashref.com wrote:
A web search shows \bendBefore is not implemented. I have tried some
snippets found out there but failed to get the bends (using LilyJAZZ if
that
matters).
I need the bend to indicate how to attack certain notes in saxophone
scores.
Does anybody have a modern snippet to share?
If you'll bear with me here, I find \bendAfter to be rather ugly and
not at all like the slides I've seen in jazz lead sheets. (For one, it
stops where the next note starts, usually creating a curve that's too
long or too short on the horizontal axis.) I prefer a different
approach to bends, which looks nicer and is also easily extensible to
something like a \bendBefore.
Anyways, something like the following has served me well:
#(define (scoop-stencil grob)
(ly:stencil-add
(ly:note-head::print grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup #:with-dimensions '(0 . 0) '(0 . 0)
#:translate '(-0.2 . -0.5)
#:path 0.25 '((moveto 0 0)
(curveto 0 -1 -1 -1.5 -1.5 -1.5))
scoop = \once \override NoteHead #'stencil = #scoop-stencil
\new Staff { \scoop c''4 }
The bend has fixed size and position. That's usually good enough for
me, but if you require many bends of different sizes, this should be
adapted into a music function.
Works like a charm, thanks very much!
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Re: Semi-transparent color in Lilypond
Ok, thank you for the help. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.netwrote: Am 2014-01-27 um 16:19 schrieb pls p.l.schm...@gmx.de: please reply to the list! On 27.01.2014, at 09:59, Rupert Snook rupertsn...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Patrick and Harm for the suggestions! These could work as workarounds, but still not exactly what I'm after. I'm looking for a color that has an opacity / transparency channel, and this channel could be set between 0% (fully transparent) and 100% (fully opaque). If that's not possible, maybe a work around could be to import a pre made graphic that was already semi-opaque. Transparency is not possible in PostScript, but just in PDF - you can inject it with pdfmarks, though. Maybe it would be possible to load a definition with a handwritten EPS. Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
New Progressive Rock songbook created with LilyPond
Hello all, maybe this is of interest for some of you. Over the last months I created the accompanying songbook for Progressive Rock band Transatlantic’s new album Kaleidoscope. Like my last book for Neal Morse it was all done in LilyPond. Here is the info page for the album (and book): http://www.radiantrecords.com/products/483-transatlantic-kaleidoscope.aspx We are printing the book on demand with CreateSpace, so they are also available on Amazon. It’s fascinating what is possible nowadays without a big publisher. Maybe this would also be something for the Pondings column on the LilyPond website if it qualifies? -- Peter Crighton | Musician Music Engraver based in Mainz, Germany http://www.petercrighton.de ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: New Progressive Rock songbook created with LilyPond
Am 29.01.2014 01:52, schrieb Peter Crighton: Hello all, maybe this is of interest for some of you. Over the last months I created the accompanying songbook for Progressive Rock band Transatlantic’s new album Kaleidoscope. Like my last book for Neal Morse it was all done in LilyPond. Here is the info page for the album (and book): http://www.radiantrecords.com/products/483-transatlantic-kaleidoscope.aspx We are printing the book on demand with CreateSpace, so they are also available on Amazon. It’s fascinating what is possible nowadays without a big publisher. Maybe this would also be something for the Pondings column on the LilyPond website if it qualifies? I think this would warrant a Ponding (forwarding to but-lilypond). But it would be nice if there were at least an example page somewhere. Urs PS: If you could share more experience than just the fact of its existence you might as well write a blog post about the project (good for us, advertisment for you ;-) ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
