Re: [Best Practices] splitting and combining choral parts

2015-11-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Simon, > It always uses a consistent number of staves for the music (which might also > be due to the music) This (i.e., the last bit) is the salient point. Look at essentially any opera or musical score (full or pianovocal), and a large proportion of [modern] choral scores, and you will

aligning melisma and non-melisma lyrics across staves in the same system

2015-11-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, I know there is a way to have accidentals “cross-canceled” between staves in the same system. (I’ve used it… and it’s wonderful!) Would it be similarly possible to have lyrics aligned between staves when one or more of the lyrics is melisma-attached (and is thus automatically

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread Robin Bannister
David Kastrup wrote: Of course, the `let' is spurious. You can just use thumbBracketSettings directly instead of settings. The 'let' is my plodding anti-cryptic: a small step with a locally relevant name, and a slot for comment Probably as of 2.14 or something. Written with 2.12 early

Re: [Best Practices] splitting and combining choral parts

2015-11-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Simon, > The other major point is that it doesn’t print ‘redundant’ lyrics, i.e. > passages with equal rhythm and wording in multiple voices have the lyrics > printed only once, mostly below the topmost of the staves. I finally looked at this example. (Thanks again for including it!) 1. To

Re: [Best Practices] splitting and combining choral parts

2015-11-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Michael, Thanks for your response… But people are apparently missing my point/question. I’m not asking for advice about LyricExtenders, or whether this particular score should be in four staves, or about the spacing of the staves and lyrics, or autobeaming, or anything like that. The

Re: Confused about output

2015-11-25 Thread Shane Brandes
Thanks Malte, That saves me from having to restructure the piece. Shane On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Malte Meyn wrote: > > > Am 25.11.2015 um 02:19 schrieb Shane Brandes: >> >> After fiddling with this for hours i cannot figure out why the added >> lyrics e and i

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-11-25 16:40 GMT+01:00 Robin Bannister : > David Kastrup wrote: > >> Of course, the `let' is spurious. You can just use thumbBracketSettings >> directly instead of settings. > > > The 'let' is my plodding anti-cryptic: > a small step with a locally relevant name, and a slot

Re: Strange LilyPond crash

2015-11-25 Thread Michael Gerdau
> Here's the file... Edski-2015-11-16_v4_test.ly > st.ly> No problem compiling this file and creating a PDF using the current LilyPond 2.19.32 running from inside Frescobaldi 2.18.1 on an ArchLinux x86_64 running a

Re: ScholarLy and polymetric music? (bar numbering, \RemoveEmptyStaffContext)

2015-11-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, What about a radical alternative? What if each non-reference part has an additional “tick” barline (numbered according to the reference context) whereever the barlines don’t line up? Just a thought… Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website:

Re: [Best Practices] splitting and combining choral parts

2015-11-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, > Can we focus on how to achieve automatic frenching based on divisi? Thanks. =) > this seems like a lot of work. Well, I’m know it won’t be trivial… But I was hoping we could come up with a "Goldilocks solution”: a rather elegant way of handling it, with a minimum of effort on the

Re: [Best Practices] splitting and combining choral parts

2015-11-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
p.s. To see the power of the system I’m trying to develop, add a manual line break at m. 8 (e.g., change line 103 to s4*2 \break s4*2), and then observe how the third system reacts. =) Cheers, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website:

Re: Strange LilyPond crash

2015-11-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-11-25 20:30 GMT+01:00 Edward Ardzinski : > Here's the file... Edski-2015-11-16_v4_test.ly > lilypond Edski-2015-11-16_v4_test.ly GNU LilyPond 2.18.2 Processing

weird fill-line behavior

2015-11-25 Thread Mike Solomon
Hey all, Any suggestions how to get even spacing in the example below? It is bunching up in all sorts of unpredictable ways... Cheers, ~Mike \version "2.19.30" #(set-default-paper-size "a4" 'landscape) #(set-global-staff-size 15.15) themeA = { \time 3/4 c4 d e | f e d | c2 r4 | }

Re: weird fill-line behavior

2015-11-25 Thread Noeck
Hi Mike, I replaced \fill-line with \justify-line and it looks much better. This is mentioned in the change log: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/changes/index.html It looks like it causes the space between columns to be equal instead of the centres. This is only available since some

Re: cross-staff stems for only two of three staves

2015-11-25 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 20.11.2015 um 20:50 schrieb Malte Meyn: Hi list, I would like to set cross staff stems in a three-staff piano score. With stems from the middle to lower or upper staff everything works fine but not the other way (from outer to middle staff). Does anyone have an idea how to fix that or work

Re: weird fill-line behavior

2015-11-25 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Mike, On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Mike Solomon wrote: > Hey all, > > Any suggestions how to get even spacing in the example below? > It is bunching up in all sorts of unpredictable ways... Sure, use \justify-line, which equalizes the space between markups.

Re: weird fill-line behavior

2015-11-25 Thread Mike Solomon
On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Noeck wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > I replaced \fill-line with \justify-line and it looks much better. > > This is mentioned in the change log: > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/changes/index.html > It looks like it causes the space

Re: [Best Practices] splitting and combining choral parts

2015-11-25 Thread tyronicus
Kieren wrote > I’ve posted this question several times before, but the discussion always > got truncated or derailed… I’m hoping this time we can work this through > to a solution. Simon and Michael, you make interesting points; yet, as an observer, I submit that the topic has been derailed

Re: Strange LilyPond crash

2015-11-25 Thread Edward Ardzinski
Here's the file... Edski-2015-11-16_v4_test.ly -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Strange-LilyPond-crash-tp183610p184124.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread David Kastrup
Robin Bannister writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > >> See issue 4671: probably as of version 2.19.33, convert-ly should be >> able to do this by itself. Another possibility is to not use >> ly:music-function-extract at all but rather write >> >> #{ \whateveritwas ... #} >> >>

PDF portfolio of 2.19.32 docs

2015-11-25 Thread Nick Payne
A fully indexed portfolio of the 2.19.32 PDF docs is available at https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iu46b26w0rfnk7/Lilydoc-2.19.32.pdf?dl=0 (39Mb). Needs Adobe Reader for the indexing to work - I haven't found a 3rd party PDF viewer that can use the index in PDF portfolios. Nick

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Urs, The horizontal part is not visible if the note head lies on a line: { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left) 8 } { \set fingeringOrientations

IR issues (was: Property/ies to control the shape of ties/slurs)

2015-11-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 23.11.2015 um 11:20 schrieb David Kastrup: > Urs Liska writes: > >> Am 23.11.2015 um 10:39 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> Urs Liska writes: >>> I don't seem to be able to find the right property to control the shape of ties. I

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.11.2015 um 11:26 schrieb Jacques Menu: > Hello Urs, > > The horizontal part is not visible if the note head lies on a line: I know that and therefore I wouldn't consider this a proper solution. If I would want to make that a generally usable tool I would have to think about some logic to

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-11-25 11:42 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska : > > > Am 25.11.2015 um 11:26 schrieb Jacques Menu: >> Hello Urs, >> >> The horizontal part is not visible if the note head lies on a line: > > I know that and therefore I wouldn't consider this a proper solution. > If I would want to

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2015-11-25 11:42 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska : >> >> >> Am 25.11.2015 um 11:26 schrieb Jacques Menu: >>> Hello Urs, >>> >>> The horizontal part is not visible if the note head lies on a line: >> >> I know that and therefore I

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Thomas Morley writes: > >> 2015-11-25 11:42 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska : >>> >>> >>> Am 25.11.2015 um 11:26 schrieb Jacques Menu: Hello Urs, The horizontal part is not visible if the note head lies on

Re: IR issues

2015-11-25 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 23.11.2015 um 11:20 schrieb David Kastrup: > >> At any rate, you can also play with settings height-limit and ratio. > > OK, I've now found out how height-limit and ratio play together. > Actually ratio is the setting to deal with the behaviour of

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread David Kastrup
Robin Bannister writes: > On 25.11.2015 12:32, David Kastrup wrote: >> Thomas Morley writes: >> [...] >>> There's Robin's approach: >>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-07/msg00536.html >>> >>> Although it does not compile with

Repeat with Alternative on First Time

2015-11-25 Thread Michael Hartl
Dear Lilypond Experts, this is my first time posting to this list. I am trying my hand at engraving a song with a perhaps unusual, but very simple repeat pattern and I couldn't find out how to come to the correct result from the manuel. The melody goes like this: It

Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time

2015-11-25 Thread David Wright
On Wed 25 Nov 2015 at 13:57:40 (+0100), Michael Hartl wrote: > Dear Lilypond Experts, Not me, then. > this is my first time posting to this list. I am trying my hand at > engraving a song with a perhaps unusual, but very simple repeat > pattern > and I couldn't find out how to come to the

Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time

2015-11-25 Thread Robert Schmaus
Hi Mike, this is actually covered in the Notation Reference, more precisely, right there: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#manual-repeat-marks Best, Robert Am 25/11/15 um 13:57 schrieb Michael Hartl: Dear Lilypond Experts, this is my first time posting

Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time

2015-11-25 Thread Robert Schmaus
Actually, what seems to work (although I'm not positive that this is all correct, so check if this causes problems down the road, i.e. in th chorus part) is this: \repeat volta 2 { c4 d e f } \alternative{ { \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "1.") begin-repeat)

Re: IR issues

2015-11-25 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Urs Liska" Cc: "lilypond-user" Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:48 AM Subject: Re: IR issues Urs Liska writes: Am 23.11.2015 um 11:20 schrieb

Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time

2015-11-25 Thread David Wright
On Wed 25 Nov 2015 at 14:41:57 (+0100), Robert Schmaus wrote: > Hi Mike, > > this is actually covered in the Notation Reference, more precisely, > right there: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#manual-repeat-marks I disagree. What's missing is the notation to

Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time

2015-11-25 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Mike, See: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=915 Cheers, ~Pierre 2015-11-25 15:25 GMT+01:00 Michael Hartl : > Hi Robert, > > thank you for pointing me to this bit of the manual. Somehow I overlooked > it even though I scanned > the page at least twice. > > I did it

Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time

2015-11-25 Thread Michael Hartl
Hi Robert, thank you for pointing me to this bit of the manual. Somehow I overlooked it even though I scanned the page at least twice. I did it like this now and the result is satisfactory (apart from midi): \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1.")) ... \bar "||" \set

Re: Layout of a (piano) hand indicator

2015-11-25 Thread Robin Bannister
David Kastrup wrote: See issue 4671: probably as of version 2.19.33, convert-ly should be able to do this by itself. Another possibility is to not use ly:music-function-extract at all but rather write #{ \whateveritwas ... #} here. That should be fairly convertible. OK. I had to pay a

Re: aligning melisma and non-melisma lyrics across staves in the same system

2015-11-25 Thread David Wright
On Wed 25 Nov 2015 at 12:01:44 (-0500), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > I know there is a way to have accidentals “cross-canceled” between staves in > the same system. > (I’ve used it… and it’s wonderful!) I don't; what is it? > Would it be similarly possible to have lyrics aligned between staves >