Re: \rest in \drummode?

2007-08-26 Thread Ole Schmidt

the \tweak you suggest does not work (unfortunatly)...

ole

Am 26.08.2007 um 01:38 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys:


Ole Schmidt escreveu:

Dear all,

is there a way to place a rest (higher)  in \drummode? (like with  
\rest

command in normal staffs)


\override the staff-position of the Rest, or perhaps using tweak.
Untested code follows:


\tweak #'staff-position #5 r 

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slur and system breaks

2007-08-26 Thread Oded
I am having a problem where slurs across system breaks look like 2 slurs -
instead of a slur-with-a-break (i.e. the right end of the slur at the top
system should remain open not curve down like an ending of a slur, and
similar the left begining of the second slur).
I couldn't find a solution for this problem searching through the archive
only another user posing this question 4 years ago with no replies and I
also noticed that this seems to be how slurs are done in all the examples
availbale on the website. 

does anyone know of a way to make the slurs correct across breaks?

thanks
Oded




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Re: Should slurs really start before the key signature?

2007-08-26 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Arvid,

On 26 Aug 2007 10:35:21 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 ...unlike ties and phrasing slurs?

 This one looks strange with both latest 2.10 and 2.11 IMO; I can't get
 2.8 to run at the moment to check if this is a regression or not.

 -- Arvid

 \version 2.8.1

 \score {

   \context Score 

 \relative c'' { \key c \minor c c\( c( c~ |\break c d) c\) c }
   
   \layout {}
 }


Have a look at issue 379, ugly slur with key signature and line break.
It's classed as a low-priority defect, unfortunately.

Regards,
Neil
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how to mute explicit voices in midi output

2007-08-26 Thread Tao Cumplido
I think the manual is a bit unclear on this topic.

I tried \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0 but it didn't work.

regards,

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Re: change Staff hara-kiri-ability on the fly? SPONSORSHIP?

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/25, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 p.s. This is *definitely* an LSR-worthy tip/trick!

It is indeed; feel free to add it and I'll mark it as approved ASAP :)

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: slur and system breaks

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/26, Oded [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Greetings,

 I couldn't find a solution for this problem searching through the archive
 only another user posing this question 4 years ago with no replies and I
 also noticed that this seems to be how slurs are done in all the examples
 availbale on the website.

If I understand correctly how the LilyPond team (and list) works, you
may have to prove that this is a bug, and not a matter of personal
preference.
To document this as a bug, you might want to find some authentic
(hand-engraved) reference scores, scan a relevant example, and compare
it to the same fragment produced using LilyPond (you can refer to
http://lilypond.org/web/about/automated-engraving/benchmarking if you
want an example).
Slurs behavior is a tricky part to program, so I think the more you'll
document it, the more LilyPond crew will be grateful to you (and
willing to address the issue).

Regards,
V. Villenave


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Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/26, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I think you are all thinking in too complicated directions.

x-aligned-on-self !!! This is awesome!

Han-Wen (if I may repeat myself), you're a God!
I'm immediately adding it to the LSR.

Valentin


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Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/26, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 x-aligned-on-self !!! This is awesome!

Awesome, *but*...

As a result, the first TimeSignature of each system is also aligned
with the left barline (which puts it too far on the left, even before
the Clef). For the very first TimeSignature, no big deal: one can
easily add an \once \override. But when the time signature often
changes, many systems can begin with a new TimeSignature, and it
becomes almost impossible to correct all of these manually.

So, is it possible to apply the x-aligned-on-self trick *only* to
TimeSignatures which are not at the beginning of a line? (maybe a
relatively simple Scheme function could do it automatically... but I
don't have the skills yet)

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: how to mute explicit voices in midi output

2007-08-26 Thread Martial

hello

Put a dynamic at the begin off no sound

%
\version 2.10.29
\score {
\relative c' {
c8
c c d
e4 d
\set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0   
c8\f^Dyn. for NO sound
e d d
\set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #1
 c2 \f^for sound
}
\layout { }
\midi { }   
}
%


I think the manual is a bit unclear on this topic.
I tried \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0 but it didn't work.





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Re: how to mute explicit voices in midi output

2007-08-26 Thread Martial

hello

Put a dynamic at the beginning of your Note where you dont want no sound.

%
\version 2.10.29
\score {
\relative c' {
c8
c c d
e4 d
\set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0
c8\f^Dyn. for NO sound
e d d
\set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #1
 c2 \f^for sound
}
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
%

 I think the manual is a bit unclear on this topic.
 I tried \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0 but it didn't work.



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Re: how to mute explicit voices in midi output

2007-08-26 Thread Martial



You can hide the dynamics with

\once \override Score.DynamicText #'transparent = ##t   


Put a dynamic at the beginning of your Note where you dont want no sound.
 I think the manual is a bit unclear on this topic.
 I tried \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #0 but it didn't work.




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Re: change Staff hara-kiri-ability on the fly? SPONSORSHIP?

2007-08-26 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Valentin,

On 8/26/07, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2007/8/25, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  p.s. This is *definitely* an LSR-worthy tip/trick!

 It is indeed; feel free to add it and I'll mark it as approved ASAP :)


I've just added it as Forcing visibility of systems with multi-bar rests
when using \RemoveEmptyStaffContext; I hope it's OK.

Regards,
Neil
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Re: Should slurs really start before the key signature?

2007-08-26 Thread Arvid Grøtting
 Have a look at issue 379, ugly slur with key signature and line break.

Ah, so this is possibly a duplicate.

 It's classed as a low-priority defect, unfortunately.

It *should* be simple to fix at least this aspect of it, though: Both
ties and phrasing slurs start after the key signature and look a lot
better (IMHO).


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Re: change Staff hara-kiri-ability on the fly? SPONSORSHIP?

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/26, Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I've just added it as Forcing visibility of systems with multi-bar rests
 when using \RemoveEmptyStaffContext; I hope it's OK.

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=312

A bit long, but I couldn't find any shorter title. It's approved now;
however, you've mentioned an issue with the PianoStaff thing, which I
tend to think that LilyPond should automatically address (a piano, or
harp staff, should never ever be reduced to one single staff when
using the  hara-Kiri engraver).

I'm starting another thread right now to discuss this issue. It would
be great if both Kieren and you Neil, could express your point of view
there.

Valentin


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Hara_kiri_engraver shouldn't handle both staves of a PianoStaff as separate single staves

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
Hello everybody,

I'm sending it to -user, to discuss it before making a bug report.

As I said in the title, there's an annoying thing when typesetting an
orchestral score with some Piano or Harp parts in it: when your harp
(or piano) only plays a few notes with one single hand, the
RemoveEmptyStaffContext makes the other staff (for the other hand)
disappear. You're left with a single staff, and it's hard to remember
this single staff is actually a Piano or Harp part (both are usually
written on *two* staves at least).

The existing solutions are:
-remove the Hara_kiri_engraver from the staves of the PianoStaff
context. This way (which I've been using until now), the two staves
are *always* displayed, no matter whether they've notes or not.
-whenever only one hand is playing, systematically add invisible notes
to the other hand so the staff doesn't disappear. As Neil mentioned,
it is ugly.
-use the trick described in
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=312 , i.e. add the
multi-measure-rest-interface to the list of keepAliveInterfaces
whenever needed, then unset it. It is the most elegant solution, but
then again, it has to be done *manually* whenever you need it.

But this is, IMO, a bug: neither a Piano nor a Harp part should ever
be reduced to a single staff!

Here is the minimal example for a bug report. In this example, the
piano staves should only be hidden in the third system.



% (based on Neil's snippet)

one = {
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  a1
}
two = { \clef bass
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  R1*4 \break
  a1
}
three = { \clef bass
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  R1*4 \break
  R1*4 \break
  a1
}
\score {
\context Staff = one \one
\new PianoStaff 
  \context Staff = two \two
  \context Staff = three \three 

\layout {
\context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
}
}




Regards,
Valentin


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Re: Hara_kiri_engraver shouldn't handle both staves of a PianoStaff as separate single staves

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/26, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The existing solutions are:

 -whenever only one hand is playing, systematically add invisible notes
 to the other hand so the staff doesn't disappear. As Neil mentioned,
 it is ugly.

Here is a quick-and-dirty function I wrote a few months ago, which
sort of works; however there are a few bugs with it:
-notes tend to overlap, generating many warning messages when compiling
-if you add an ottava to one of the hands, it is printed on both staves
-you can't use polyphonic music within one hand.

So after spending a few hours and loosing some of my hair, I just dropped it.

%

%% quick-and-dirty: each staff will contain the music
%% of both staves as two distinct voices, but only
%% one will be visible.

PianoAlive=
#(define-music-function (parser location right left) (ly:music? ly:music?)
#{ 
  \new Staff \with {
  \remove Ottava_spanner_engraver
  \remove Collision_engraver
  \remove Rest_collision_engraver
  \remove Accidental_engraver
  \remove Key_engraver } { 
\new Voice \with {
  \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = ##f
  localKeySignature = #'()
  createSpacing = ##t
  squashedPosition = #0
  \consists Pitch_squash_engraver
  \remove Rest_engraver
  \remove Text_engraver
  \remove Dynamic_engraver
  \remove Fingering_engraver
  \remove Slur_engraver
  \remove Tie_engraver
  \remove Script_engraver
  \remove Script_column_engraver
  \remove Stem_engraver
  \remove Tuplet_engraver
  \remove Arpeggio_engraver
  \remove Beam_engraver
  \remove Dots_engraver
  \remove Multi_measure_rest_engraver } {
\sequential {
  \override NoteHead  #'transparent = ##t
  \override NoteHead  #'no-ledgers = ##t
  \override TupletBracket #'transparent = ##t
  \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
  }
  { \voiceFour $left }}
\new Voice \with{
  \consists Ottava_spanner_engraver
  \consists Accidental_engraver
  \consists Collision_engraver
  \consists Rest_collision_engraver
  \consists Key_engraver
  \consists Clef_engraver }
  $right  }
  \new Staff \with {
  \remove Ottava_spanner_engraver
  \remove Collision_engraver
  \remove Rest_collision_engraver
  \remove Accidental_engraver
  \remove Key_engraver} { 
\new Voice \with {
  \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = ##f
  localKeySignature = #'()
  createSpacing = ##t
  squashedPosition = #0
  \consists Pitch_squash_engraver
  \remove Rest_engraver
  \remove Text_engraver
  \remove Dynamic_engraver
  \remove Fingering_engraver
  \remove Slur_engraver
  \remove Tie_engraver
  \remove Script_engraver
  \remove Script_column_engraver
  \remove Stem_engraver
  \remove Tuplet_engraver
  \remove Arpeggio_engraver
  \remove Beam_engraver
  \remove Dots_engraver
  \remove Multi_measure_rest_engraver } {
\sequential {
  \override NoteHead  #'transparent = ##t
  \override NoteHead  #'no-ledgers = ##t
  \override TupletBracket #'transparent = ##t
  \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
  }
  {\voiceFour $right }}
\new Voice \with{
  \consists Ottava_spanner_engraver
  \consists Accidental_engraver
  \consists Collision_engraver
  \consists Rest_collision_engraver
  \consists Key_engraver
  \consists Clef_engraver }
  $left  }

#})

%%Here comes the above snippet with this function:

one = {
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  a1
}
two = { \clef treble
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  R1*4 \break
  a1
}
three = { \clef bass
  \repeat unfold 4 { a4 b c' d'} \break
  R1*4 \break
  R1*4 \break
  a1
}
\score {
\context Staff = one \one
\new PianoStaff
  \PianoAlive \two \three

\layout {
\context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
}
}



Regards,
Valentin


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Re: Hara_kiri_engraver shouldn't handle both staves of a PianoStaff as separate single staves

2007-08-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Valentin,


this is, IMO, a bug: neither a Piano nor a Harp part
should ever be reduced to a single staff!


I disagree, and there are many hand-engraved examples to back me up  
-- for example, Stravinsky's Petrushka (Edition Russe de Musique,  
1912) clearly shows the Harp I part as two staves with brace (most of  
the time) AND as a single staff (e.g., #29-#30), and the piano part  
as two staves with brace (most of the time) AND as a single staff  
(e.g., #27-#28).


Furthermore, as a composer (well, engraver), I *definitely* want the  
option to do either!


IMO, this should be a setting similar to connectArpeggios -- say,  
keepAliveTogether -- where the default is ##t, but it can be set to  
##f as desired. I suppose this could also be extended (as an  
interface) to ChoirStaff, StaffGroup, etc., for ultimate flexibility.


Best regards,
Kieren.


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Re: Hara_kiri_engraver shouldn't handle both staves of a PianoStaff as separate single staves

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/26, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi Kieren,

 I disagree, and there are many hand-engraved examples to back me up
 -- for example, Stravinsky's Petrushka (Edition Russe de Musique,
 1912) clearly shows the Harp I part as two staves with brace (most of
 the time) AND as a single staff (e.g., #29-#30), and the piano part
 as two staves with brace (most of the time) AND as a single staff
 (e.g., #27-#28).

I have this edition too, and indeed at #27 the piano and celesta are
reduced to one staff only (with a little brace on the left though,
which LilyPond doesn't handle). But this seems to happen only when
there is too much music too fit on the page: if you look at #97 or
#120, only one hand is playing and however both staves are still
printed.

 Furthermore, as a composer (well, engraver), I *definitely* want the
 option to do either!

I agree with you, this should come as a choice. But as both a composer
and a pianist, I *definitely* can't easily find the piano part on an
orchestral score if there are no braces on the left :)

 IMO, this should be a setting similar to connectArpeggios -- say,
 keepAliveTogether -- where the default is ##t, but it can be set to
 ##f as desired. I suppose this could also be extended (as an
 interface) to ChoirStaff, StaffGroup, etc., for ultimate flexibility.

Absolutely. If your sponsorship offer is still good, this is
definitely a feature for which I'm ready to offer a bounty myself.

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: Hara_kiri_engraver shouldn't handle both staves of a PianoStaff as separate single staves

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/26, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Actually, it does... see for example http://lists.gnu.org/archive/
 html/lilypond-user/2006-07/msg00244.html.

I had never thought the SystemStartBrace had a collapse-height
property like the SystemStartBracket; thank you for the tip (I'm
adding it to the LSR snippet right now).

Otherwise, we agree to say that keeping alive both staves of a
PianoStaff should be the default behavior (or at least, should be
possible). If this isn't a bug, this is at least a missing feature...

Cheers,
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Re: Hara_kiri_engraver shouldn't handle both staves of a PianoStaff as separate single staves

2007-08-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Valentin:


we agree to say that keeping alive both staves of a PianoStaff
should be the default behavior (or at least, should be possible).
If this isn't a bug, this is at least a missing feature...


Absolutely!  =)
Kieren.


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Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?

2007-08-26 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2007/8/26, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 As a result, the first TimeSignature of each system is also aligned
 with the left barline (which puts it too far on the left, even before
 the Clef). For the very first TimeSignature, no big deal: one can
 easily add an \once \override. But when the time signature often
 changes, many systems can begin with a new TimeSignature, and it
 becomes almost impossible to correct all of these manually.


I thought that was desired. If you don't do the break-align-symbol
override, the time sig will be after the clef on the start of the
system.

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Re: Hara_kiri_engraver shouldn't handle both staves of a PianoStaff as separate single staves

2007-08-26 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Kieren/Valentin,

On 8/26/07, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Valentin:

  we agree to say that keeping alive both staves of a PianoStaff
  should be the default behavior (or at least, should be possible).
  If this isn't a bug, this is at least a missing feature...

 Absolutely!  =)
 Kieren.


Also agreed here.

I'd tend to agree with Valentin though, in that I can't think of many
situations where it would be ideal to hide a piano or harp stave; the
Petrushka examples are clearly the engraver admitting defeat due to lack of
space.

Regards,
Neil
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Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/26, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2007/8/26, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  As a result, the first TimeSignature of each system is also aligned
  with the left barline (which puts it too far on the left, even before
  the Clef).

 I thought that was desired. If you don't do the break-align-symbol
 override, the time sig will be after the clef on the start of the
 system.

This is the point; the time signatures should be aligned with the
barlines, *unless* they're at the beginning of the line (then they
have to be put after the clef).

This is because in such orchestral scores, the time signature is
printed above the 1st flute staff, above the 1st Horn staff and above
the 1st Violins staff (in other words, above each main instrument
groups). Since there is no barline between those staves, the
TimeSignature can be aligned with the barlines, *but* since the first
barline of each system is always printed, then the TimeSignature has
to be moved after the Clef.

You can see such engraving rules in many contemporary orchestral
scores (I have some examples here in France, but unfortunately I
haven't a scanner).

Thank you very much

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: Alignment problem with RehearsalMark

2007-08-26 Thread Neil Puttock
On 8/14/07, Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everybody,

 Here's a layout section I'm using to allow rehearsal marks to be printed
 on more than one stave in an orchestral score:

 \layout {
 \context { \Score
 \remove Staff_collecting_engraver
 \remove Mark_engraver
 }
 \context { \Staff
 \consists Staff_collecting_engraver
 \consists Mark_engraver
 }
 }

 This works fine, apart from one snag: overriding #'break-align-symbol has
 no effect, unless the engravers are moved back the the \Score context. Is
 there something else I should be moving to the \Staff context to make
 RehearsalMark see the override, or is this a bug?

 Thanks,
 Neil



I've just encountered another problem -  clef changes skew the rehearsal
mark positioning to the left of the bar-line:

\version 2.11.30
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
one = {R1 \mark \default R \mark \default R }
two = {R1 \clef bass R R }
\score {
\new GrandStaff 
\context Staff = one \one
\context Staff = two \two

\layout {
\context { \Score
\remove Staff_collecting_engraver
\remove Mark_engraver
}
\context { \Staff
\consists Staff_collecting_engraver
\consists Mark_engraver
}
}
}

I'm afraid to say that the mark engraver's unusable when moved to the \Staff
context. It's rather unfortunate, since it's common for orchestral scores to
have rehearsal marks at the top of the score and above the First Violins.
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Re: songbooks with guitar tablature

2007-08-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/23, Jack Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 While OpenOffice isn't technically a freeware version of Microsoft Office,
 I don't know how else to describe it to folks who have never heard of it
 or used it.  And since I wrote these intro notes, I am more inclined
 to use GIMP for image editing and Scribus for general layout.  The
 general point I was hoping to convey to someone is that it doesn't
 require hundreds of dollars investment in software to produce professional
 looking songbooks, thanks to lilypond.

Absolutely! As for the way you describe OpenOffice, maybe using
equivalent instead of version would be more convenient and just as
self-explanatory. But it's just one word :)

 I have a specfic market I am trying to interest in having songbooks
 created, and I will have a better idea over the next couple of months
 the level of interest within that market.

When you do, feel free to keep the community informed: it's always
extremely interesting when open-source projects manage to reach the
commercial market.

 Making the source files files available is a very good idea but it
 provides a bit of a conundrum.  Here's an example using a project
 I am currently involved with creating a collection of notated traditional
 fiddle songs.  The person who I am doing the notation for has decided,
 after I've gotten halfway throught the set of tunes, that compensation
 for my time is too expensive and if I could just spend an hour teaching
 how to use the package, he could learn to do it himself.  Fair
 enough.

You can very well, in the future, wait until the job is done (and
until you get paid) to release the source code. This is what I would
probably do.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience with us.

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: slur and system breaks

2007-08-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Sonntag, 26. August 2007 schrieb Valentin Villenave:
 2007/8/26, Oded [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Greetings,

  I couldn't find a solution for this problem searching through the archive
  only another user posing this question 4 years ago with no replies and I
  also noticed that this seems to be how slurs are done in all the examples
  availbale on the website.

 If I understand correctly how the LilyPond team (and list) works, you
 may have to prove that this is a bug, and not a matter of personal
 preference.
 To document this as a bug, you might want to find some authentic
 (hand-engraved) reference scores, scan a relevant example, and compare
 it to the same fragment produced using LilyPond (you can refer to
 http://lilypond.org/web/about/automated-engraving/benchmarking if you
 want an example).

I looked at an old edition of Mozart's Verspera sollenis de confessore (KV 
339), which was published by Breitkopf  Härtel in 1896. It seems that  ties 
and slurs that span a line break do not cut the curve in half, but show the 
full curve on both systems. An example can be seen at
http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/~reinhold/Chor/Mozart_VesperaeConfessore_KV339_0009.tiff

Cheers,
Reinhold


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Re: slur and system breaks

2007-08-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Sonntag, 26. August 2007 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
 I looked at an old edition of Mozart's Verspera sollenis de confessore (KV
 339), which was published by Breitkopf  Härtel in 1896. It seems that 
 ties and slurs that span a line break do not cut the curve in half, but
 show the full curve on both systems. An example can be seen at
 http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/~reinhold/Chor/Mozart_VesperaeConfessore_KV339_
0009.tiff

Which is a tie, as I just noticed. But the same also holds for slurs:
http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/~reinhold/Chor/Mozart_VesperaeConfessore_KV339_0011.tiff

Cheers,
Reinhold



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Re: Alignment problem with RehearsalMark

2007-08-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Neil Puttock wrote:


I've just encountered another problem -  clef changes skew the 
rehearsal mark positioning to the left of the bar-line:


That's since the default setting for the break-align-symbols property of 
the

RehearsalMark objects is #'(staff-bar clef), which gives the desired layout
if the rehearsal mark appears at a line break.

  /Mats

\version 2.11.30 
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
one = {R1 \mark \default R \mark \default R }
two = {R1 \clef bass R R }
\score {
\new GrandStaff 
\context Staff = one \one
\context Staff = two \two

\layout {
\context { \Score
\remove Staff_collecting_engraver
\remove Mark_engraver
}
\context { \Staff
\consists Staff_collecting_engraver
\consists Mark_engraver
}
}
}

I'm afraid to say that the mark engraver's unusable when moved to the 
\Staff context. It's rather unfortunate, since it's common for 
orchestral scores to have rehearsal marks at the top of the score and 
above the First Violins.



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