Re: Trill and nonstandard expressive mark

2013-01-04 Thread Ed Gordijn
Hi Shane, I am not sure if this is what you are looking for. To me it looks like a normal triller. You can suppress the text if you want. \version 2.16.0 \relative c'' { bes4~\startTrillSpan bes8. a16\stopTrillSpan r2 % or without the text \once \override TrillSpanner #'(bound-details

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread Eluze
Welcome to the LilyPond forum! EmilLask wrote Hi everyone my lilypond's friends. I just founded out Lilypond and i'm in love with it. nice to hear! My first problem: I want to tie two chords in chordmode and I use the tilde symbol. The graphic appearance is good but the midi output it

Re: Problem with scaled durations

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
Oscar Dub oscar...@gmail.com writes: Interesting, thanks David! I think we're agreed that this was a slightly synthetic scenario. In the project where I discovered the issue I've worked around the problem by limiting the scope of the possible note durations as you. I now using multiples of

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Thank you for answer. The problem is that the code print a tie between the notes of two chords, but the midi output play the two chords separately instead of continuing the sound. I use Mac Os X and Lilypond. Emil -- View this message in context:

Re: Problem with scaled durations

2013-01-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Friday, January 04, 2013 8:21 AM Oscar Dub oscar...@gmail.com writes: From a user perspective, I thought it might be nice for the compiler to send out some kind of error or warning message. Currently there's no sign of anything wrong except the final output. Is this

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
EmilLask laske...@gmail.com writes: Thank you for answer. The problem is that the code print a tie between the notes of two chords, but the midi output play the two chords separately instead of continuing the sound. I use Mac Os X and Lilypond. So now we know you are not using Mac OS 9 or

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
I hav an iMac 2,8 Ghz Intel Core i7 with 16 GB RAM DDR3. Mac Os X 10.7.3 Lion. Lilypond Version 2.16.1-1 Emil -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Midi-output-tp138736p138772.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Problem with scaled durations

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Friday, January 04, 2013 8:21 AM Oscar Dub oscar...@gmail.com writes: From a user perspective, I thought it might be nice for the compiler to send out some kind of error or warning message. Currently there's no sign of

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread Eluze
EmilLask wrote I hav an iMac 2,8 Ghz Intel Core i7 with 16 GB RAM DDR3. Mac Os X 10.7.3 Lion. Lilypond Version 2.16.1-1 I can't reproduce this (I'm on windows 7) - neither with 2.16.1 nor 2.17.9 can somebody confirm the chords are not tied in midi? could you send the whole code you're

Fwd: LilyPondXs

2013-01-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
-- Forwarded message -- From: Kristina Vuckovic kvuck...@ffzg.hr Date: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM Subject: LilyPondXs To: han...@xs4all.nl Dear Mr. Nienhuys, I am using software NooJ for natural language processing, and some time ago I thought how nice it would be if we

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Thaks in advance Here it is: \include predefined-guitar-fretboards.ly \include italiano.ly \score{ \new ChordNames{ \set chordChanges = ##t \italianChords \chordmode{ sol,2:m~ q4. q8 r8 fa,8~ q2. mib,2 q4 fa,8 sib,8~ q2. r4 sol,2:m~ q4. q8 r8 fa,8~ q2. sib,2~ q4 r8 mib,~ mib,2. r4

Re: Fwd: LilyPondXs

2013-01-04 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Hi Kristina, Il 04/01/2013 10:43, Han-Wen Nienhuys ha scritto: -- Forwarded message -- From: Kristina Vuckovickvuck...@ffzg.hr Date: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM Subject: LilyPondXs To: han...@xs4all.nl now, since I need the notes to be converted to text, I was wondering if

Re: Fwd: LilyPondXs

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes: -- Forwarded message -- From: Kristina Vuckovic kvuck...@ffzg.hr Date: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM Subject: LilyPondXs To: han...@xs4all.nl Dear Mr. Nienhuys, I am using software NooJ for natural language processing, and

Re: Problem with scaled durations

2013-01-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Friday, January 04, 2013 9:15 AM Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Friday, January 04, 2013 8:21 AM Oscar Dub oscar...@gmail.com writes: From a user perspective, I thought it might be nice for the compiler to send out some kind of error

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread Eluze
EmilLask wrote Thaks in advance Here it is: thanks - I was thinking of a tiny example (1 or 2 measures) showing the relevant problem. assuming you mean the first two measures I've to tell you that here it compiles and sounds correct! can you send the midi file!? Eluze -- View this

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Il giorno 04/gen/2013, alle ore 11:30, Eluze [via Lilypond] ha scritto: EmilLask wrote Thaks in advance Here it is: thanks - I was thinking of a tiny example (1 or 2 measures) showing the relevant problem. assuming you mean the first two measures I've to tell you that here it

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Thanks Here it is my midi file Emil Il giorno 04/gen/2013, alle ore 11:30, Eluze [via Lilypond] ha scritto: EmilLask wrote Thaks in advance Here it is: thanks - I was thinking of a tiny example (1 or 2 measures) showing the relevant problem. assuming you mean the first two

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
EmilLask laske...@gmail.com writes: Thanks Here it is my midi file It exactly corresponds to the ties you use in your input. Can you point out _any_ note which you consider wrong? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
For example: fa,8~ q2. in score are tied, but in midi are played separately. Emil Il giorno 04/gen/2013, alle ore 12:08, David Kastrup [via Lilypond] ha scritto: EmilLask [hidden email] writes: Thanks Here it is my midi file It exactly corresponds to the ties you use in your

Re: LilyPondXs

2013-01-04 Thread Sven Axelsson
On 4 January 2013 10:43, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Kristina Vuckovic kvuck...@ffzg.hr Date: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM Subject: LilyPondXs To: han...@xs4all.nl Dear Mr. Nienhuys, I am using software NooJ for natural

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
EmilLask laske...@gmail.com writes: For example: fa,8~ q2. in score are tied, but in midi are played separately. Then your Midi sequencer is broken. That would be measure 2, and it contains a rest event of a half-beat (that you left out here), and then a chord with 3 and a half beats.

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Yes it is the measure 2. r8 fa,8~ q2. The score contains a rest of halfbeat, a chord of halfbeat tied with another chord of 2 beats pointed. In the midifile there is a rest and two chords (the same chord) without tie. Emil Il giorno 04/gen/2013, alle ore 12:23, David Kastrup [via Lilypond] ha

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
EmilLask laske...@gmail.com writes: Yes it is the measure 2. r8 fa,8~ q2. The score contains a rest of halfbeat, a chord of halfbeat tied with another chord of 2 beats pointed. In the midifile there is a rest and two chords (the same chord) without tie. Well, the event display of

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
fa,8~ q2. in score are tied, but in midi are played separately. Some versions of lilypond have this bug. AFAIK, this has been fixed meanwhile (however, I don't know starting from which version). Can you try a current development version? Werner

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Same with 2.17.9.1 Emil Il giorno 04/gen/2013, alle ore 12:55, Werner LEMBERG [via Lilypond] ha scritto: fa,8~ q2. in score are tied, but in midi are played separately. Some versions of lilypond have this bug. AFAIK, this has been fixed meanwhile (however, I don't know starting from

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Same with 2.17.9.1 Yes, I can now repeat it. It seems that `ChordNames' causes problems. If you comment it out, it works. Here's a minimum example which exhibits the bug. \score{ \new ChordNames { \chordmode { g8~ q } } \midi {} } Attached is the

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Yes it's true. If I comment out ChordName the midi file is correct. Then? Is it a bug? Emil Il giorno 04/gen/2013, alle ore 13:33, Werner LEMBERG [via Lilypond] ha scritto: Same with 2.17.9.1 Yes, I can now repeat it. It seems that `ChordNames' causes problems. If you comment it

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
EmilLask laske...@gmail.com writes: Yes it's true. If I comment out ChordName the midi file is correct. Then? Is it a bug? URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3082 Workaround: \midi { \context { \Voice \name ChordNameVoice } } -- David Kastrup

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Thank you, very very very much. Great! The Workaround works! Emil Il giorno 04/gen/2013, alle ore 14:31, David Kastrup [via Lilypond] ha scritto: EmilLask [hidden email] writes: Yes it's true. If I comment out ChordName the midi file is correct. Then? Is it a bug?

scheme engraver and multiple voices

2013-01-04 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello list, I am experimenting with scheme engravers and have an issue with simultanious voices: --snip-- \version 2.16.0 \layout { \context { \Voice \consists #(let ((ccid 1)) (lambda (context) (let ((id ccid)) (set! ccid (+ 1 ccid)) `((start-translation-timestep . ,(lambda

Re: Problem with scaled durations

2013-01-04 Thread Colin Hall
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 10:22:02AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: David Kastrup wrote Friday, January 04, 2013 9:15 AM Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Friday, January 04, 2013 8:21 AM Oscar Dub oscar...@gmail.com writes: From a user perspective, I

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Thank you, very very very much. Great! The Workaround works! Here you can see the power of a minimum example! *Anyone* can make that by trial and error, including you and me, and it helps David a lot to identify the problem within a very short time. Werner

Re: scheme engraver and multiple voices

2013-01-04 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello again, sorry for reposting, but thunderbird (again) crashed the code layout ... Cheers, Jan-Peter Am 04.01.2013 14:54, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hello list, I am experimenting with scheme engravers and have an issue with simultanious voices. This little snippet prints out the

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Thank you, very very very much. Great! The Workaround works! Here you can see the power of a minimum example! *Anyone* can make that by trial and error, including you and me, and it helps David a lot to identify the problem within a very short time.

Re: scheme engraver and multiple voices

2013-01-04 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Jan-Peter, On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote: Hello again, sorry for reposting, but thunderbird (again) crashed the code layout ... Cheers, Jan-Peter Am 04.01.2013 14:54, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hello list, I am experimenting with scheme

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Here you can see the power of a minimum example! *Anyone* can make that by trial and error, including you and me, and it helps David a lot to identify the problem within a very short time. Well, the example could have been a lot more minimal. I was actually talking about my example,

Re: scheme engraver and multiple voices

2013-01-04 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi David, yes, stop-translation-timestep is called and so is process-music, but if I want to change properties, like in an override, it has to happen in start-translation-timestep, or am I missing something? Cheers, Jan-Peter Am 04.01.2013 15:16, schrieb David Nalesnik: Hi Jan-Peter, On

Lilypond-book on Windows 2.16.1

2013-01-04 Thread Phil Holmes
I have created a new stable version of the windows binary (2.16.2) which should fix the problem that prevents lilypond-book from being run on 2.16.1. Before uploading this to the official website, I would appreciate it if interested and capable users could download it from my own website:

[OT] code layout, was: scheme engraver and multiple voices

2013-01-04 Thread Helge Kruse
2013/1/4 Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de sorry for reposting, but thunderbird (again) crashed the code layout. This is a known problem for me, when I paste from Frescobaldi to Thunderbird. I usually use this workaround: - copy in Frescolbaldi -- paste in notepad - copy in notepad -- paste in

Re: Trill and nonstandard expressive mark

2013-01-04 Thread Shane Brandes
Thank you Ed, That means I can take a number of text less trills back into the trillspanner function. However that leaves yet the upprall, an up prall or for that matter a down prall trill has an extra long initial curved slash that tells you which neighbour, upper or lower to start from as you

Re: Midi output

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
`chapeau!' Emil Il giorno 04/gen/2013, alle ore 15:33, Werner LEMBERG [via Lilypond] ha scritto: Here you can see the power of a minimum example! *Anyone* can make that by trial and error, including you and me, and it helps David a lot to identify the problem within a very short

Re: Trill and nonstandard expressive mark

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net writes: Thank you Ed, That means I can take a number of text less trills back into the trillspanner function. However that leaves yet the upprall, an up prall or for that matter a down prall trill has an extra long initial curved slash that tells you

Re: Lilypond-book on Windows 2.16.1

2013-01-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 01/04/2013 06:00 PM, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: I have created a new stable version of the windows binary (2.16.2) which should fix the problem that prevents lilypond-book from being run on 2.16.1. Before uploading this to the official website, I would appreciate it if interested

Re: scheme engraver and multiple voices

2013-01-04 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Jan-Peter, On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote: Hi David, yes, stop-translation-timestep is called and so is process-music, but if I want to change properties, like in an override, it has to happen in start-translation-timestep, or am I missing

FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Hi, I'm still here. Be patients, please. FretBoard now supports chordChanges ie:\set chordChanges = ##t. But .. only when the chords are the same with same duration, ie: \header{ texidoc = FretBoards can be set to display only when the chord changes or at the beginning of a new line.

Re: FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Maybe in Bug? Sorry Emil -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/FretBoards-chordChanges-tp138821p138827.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
EmilLask laske...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I'm still here. Be patients, please. FretBoard now supports chordChanges ie:\set chordChanges = ##t. But .. only when the chords are the same with same duration, Issue 3083: Patch: Chord change detection in fretboards should depend on

shorthand for force display of chord name?

2013-01-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all! I generally have \set chordChanges = ##t in my scores, so that chord names are displayed only at the start of lines and when the chord changes. However, there are some times when I want to force a chord name to appear, regardless of the chordChanges setting. I'd love a shorthand for

Re: FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Thank you again, David. How have I installing the patch file .cc? Emil -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/FretBoards-chordChanges-tp138821p138831.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: Lilypond-book on Windows 2.16.1

2013-01-04 Thread Olivier Biot
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote: I have created a new stable version of the windows binary (2.16.2) which should fix the problem that prevents lilypond-book from being run on 2.16.1. Before uploading this to the official website, I would appreciate it if

Re: FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 04.01.2013 22:22, schrieb EmilLask: Thank you again, David. How have I installing the patch file .cc? If you don't have compiled lilypond from source, it would be probably the best to wait for 2.17.11 to be released. If you want to give it a try, though, have a look at

Re: Lilypond-book on Windows 2.16.1

2013-01-04 Thread Phil Holmes
Thanks for testing this. 2.16.2 is currently uploading and the stable build (which you have actually already downloaded from my website) should be on lilypond.org tomorrow. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Olivier Biot To: Phil Holmes Cc: Chris ; Per Sennels ;

Re: FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:30 PM Subject: Re: FretBoards chordChanges Am 04.01.2013 22:22, schrieb EmilLask: Thank you again, David. How have I installing the patch file .cc? If you don't have

Re: shorthand for force display of chord name?

2013-01-04 Thread Eluze
Am 04.01.2013 21:59, schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi all! I generally have \set chordChanges = ##t in my scores, so that chord names are displayed only at the start of lines and when the chord changes. However, there are some times when I want to force a chord name to appear, regardless of the

BalloonGrobText spacing

2013-01-04 Thread Noeck
Hi, I tried to use the BalloonGrobText. I know that it is still experimental. I tried the following code and I expected that \balloonLengthOff means notes and other stuff does not wait for the text to be finished. In other words: the text should not influence the positioning of the rest. 1st

Re: Problem with scaled durations

2013-01-04 Thread Marek Klein
Hello, 2013/1/4 Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com Oscar has run into a known issue with the limited precision of Rational in Lilypond. Although David is correct that this issue can crop up in many places it makes sense to follow Trevor's suggestion and warn future users who may end up with

Re: Lilypond-book on Windows 2.16.1

2013-01-04 Thread Julien Rioux
On 04/01/2013 4:30 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: Thanks for testing this. 2.16.2 is currently uploading and the stable build (which you have actually already downloaded from my website) should be on lilypond.org tomorrow. -- Phil Holmes Thanks for tackling this, Phil, and thanks to those who ran

Re: Lilypond-book on Windows 2.16.1

2013-01-04 Thread Sennels Per
Hi Phil et al, downloaded, installed and tested, with both normal lilypond and lilypond-book, without any problems. Thanks for fixing this problem so quickly, Best Per Sennels 2013/1/4 Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net I have created a new stable version of the windows binary (2.16.2) which

Re: Lilypond-book on Windows 2.16.1

2013-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
Julien Rioux jri...@lyx.org writes: On 04/01/2013 4:30 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: Thanks for testing this. 2.16.2 is currently uploading and the stable build (which you have actually already downloaded from my website) should be on lilypond.org tomorrow. -- Phil Holmes Thanks for tackling

Re: Syntax for make-dynamic-script

2013-01-04 Thread Colin Hall
On Dec 26, 2012 10:49 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com writes: David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes: Richard Shann richard.shann at virgin.net writes: On Sat, 2012-12-22 at 00:58 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: I guess this $ notation is

Re: Trill and nonstandard expressive mark

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Bernard
Greetings list, This technique glues an upprall to a trill, but the difference in width of the glyphs is noticeable. Is there a way to achieve this without the discrepancy in width? Since lilypond produces the finest engraved output I know, can we do better than this for baroque engraving?

Re: Trill and nonstandard expressive mark

2013-01-04 Thread Olivier Biot
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings list, This technique glues an upprall to a trill, but the difference in width of the glyphs is noticeable. Is there a way to achieve this without the discrepancy in width? Since lilypond produces the

RE: shorthand for force display of chord name?

2013-01-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Eluze, do you mean \once \set chordChanges = ##f No... if I had meant that, I would have said that. ;) I meant what I said: c:min7!, analogous to how ! is used to force the display of accidentals Thanks, Kieren.

Re: Problem with scaled durations

2013-01-04 Thread Colin Hall
On Jan 4, 2013 10:51 PM, Marek Klein ma...@gregoriana.sk wrote: Hello, 2013/1/4 Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com Oscar has run into a known issue with the limited precision of Rational in Lilypond. Although David is correct that this issue can crop up in many places it makes sense to

Re: Trill and nonstandard expressive mark

2013-01-04 Thread Nick Payne
On 05/01/13 11:32, Andrew Bernard wrote: Greetings list, This technique glues an upprall to a trill, but the difference in width of the glyphs is noticeable. Is there a way to achieve this without the discrepancy in width? Since lilypond produces the finest engraved output I know, can we do

Re: Trill and nonstandard expressive mark

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Bernard
On 5/01/13 2:02 PM, Nick Payne wrote: You could use a left parenthesis and omit the upprall: \version 2.17.9 { c'-\tweak bound-details.left.text \markup { \fontsize #-5 { \musicglyph #accidentals.leftparen } } \tweak bound-details.left.stencil-offset #'(0.02 . -0.65)

Re: Tweaking notehead direction in chords

2013-01-04 Thread Paul Morris
On Dec 27, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Paul, approved as http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=861 I added some small changes. Could take them back, if you want. Many thanks for contributing, Harm Hi Harm, That's great, thanks!

Re: FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread EmilLask
Thanks Marc and thanks Phil. Is there an easy guide, step by step, to compiling Lilypond in mac os x and add .cc patch without get in trouble ? Phil, when do you think will be ready the new release? Emil -- View this message in context:

Re: Trill and nonstandard expressive mark

2013-01-04 Thread Nick Payne
On 05/01/13 14:27, Andrew Bernard wrote: On 5/01/13 2:02 PM, Nick Payne wrote: You could use a left parenthesis and omit the upprall: \version 2.17.9 { c'-\tweak bound-details.left.text \markup { \fontsize #-5 { \musicglyph #accidentals.leftparen } } \tweak

Re: FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 04.01.2013 22:44, schrieb Phil Holmes: - Original Message - From: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:30 PM Subject: Re: FretBoards chordChanges Am 04.01.2013 22:22, schrieb EmilLask: Thank you again, David. How have I installing

Re: FretBoards chordChanges

2013-01-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 05.01.2013 08:13, schrieb EmilLask: Thanks Marc and thanks Phil. Is there an easy guide, step by step, to compiling Lilypond in mac os x and add .cc patch without get in trouble ? I can't speak for MacOS X but I remember that at least in the past this was not a trivial task to get LilyPond