Re: Bass and Treble Clef notes on the same clef
2014-10-17 0:58 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com writes:
I have a situation I don't know how to deal with in LilyPond. I have
bass clef and treble clef notes on the same staff. I guess one way to
do it is to create a markup and a small bass clef sign and put it next
to the treble clef (and incorrect) gf which looks like a tied bf from
the bass clef in the first measure. I could make a temporary
ossia-type staff to hold the bf pedal tone.
Any other thoughts?
\new Staff \with { \accepts Staff }
{
\partial 2
\clef bass
\new Voice
{ \voiceOne r8 \clef treble as c' e' as' bes d' fis' bes'
c' e' as' c''~ q4 }
\new Staff \with { createSpacing = ##f }
{ \voiceTwo bes,,2~
\once\override Staff.CueClef.Y-offset = #-4 \cueClef bass
bes,,2 }
}
! This really works! 8O
LilyPond is awesome. I knew it.
Janek
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Re: Bass and Treble Clef notes on the same clef
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2014-10-17 0:58 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com writes:
I have a situation I don't know how to deal with in LilyPond. I have
bass clef and treble clef notes on the same staff. I guess one way to
do it is to create a markup and a small bass clef sign and put it next
to the treble clef (and incorrect) gf which looks like a tied bf from
the bass clef in the first measure. I could make a temporary
ossia-type staff to hold the bf pedal tone.
Any other thoughts?
\new Staff \with { \accepts Staff }
{
\partial 2
\clef bass
\new Voice
{ \voiceOne r8 \clef treble as c' e' as' bes d' fis' bes'
c' e' as' c''~ q4 }
\new Staff \with { createSpacing = ##f }
{ \voiceTwo bes,,2~
\once\override Staff.CueClef.Y-offset = #-4 \cueClef bass
bes,,2 }
}
! This really works! 8O
LilyPond is awesome. I knew it.
Well, to be honest, everything in the inner Staff will be equally
visible in the first Staff, so with growing complexity you'll probably
need to throw out more and more engravers from the inner Staff in order
to avoid duplicate typesetting. I actually tried getting away with just
giving the second Voice a Staff alias and just putting the
engravers/settings needed for the separate staff in there, but this did
not work for some reason and threw the first voice/staff into bass clef
positions as well.
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Re: Draw a box spanning multiple staves
Hi Urs, Hi All Sorry to come that late but since I had to use it this morning please find herewith what I come up with so far. Cheers, Pierre http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n167634/urs.png DrawBoxOnMultipleStaves.ly http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n167634/DrawBoxOnMultipleStaves.ly - ~Pierre -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Draw-a-box-spanning-multiple-staves-tp162643p167634.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Draw a box spanning multiple staves
Added to the LSR : http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=953 Cheers, pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: shapeTieColumn
See the exchange below between myself and David. Hoping for an elegant
solution to this problem.
-- Forwarded message --
From: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: shapeTieColumn
To: Neil Thornock neilthorn...@gmail.com
Hi Neil,
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Neil Thornock neilthorn...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi David,
Not sure this is worth an email to the Lily list...
I'm using your shapeTieColumn function. After a line break, the function
works only if it is not the top staff of a system. So this breaks:
{ s1 \break c' d' e'8.~ \shapeTieColumn #'((()) (()) (((0 . -4) (0 .
1) (0 . 0) (0 . 0))) (()) (())) c' d' e' }
Any ideas?
I've been poking around with this, and I really have no idea. It _should_
work.
I added two print lines to the function to check if the offsets are
happening. They are. Run the following on your snippet:
function for offsetting control-points of a TieColumn
%
shapeTieColumn =
#(define-music-function (parser location all-offsets) (list?)
#{
\once \override TieColumn #'after-line-breaking =
#(lambda (grob)
(let ((ties (ly:grob-array-list (ly:grob-object grob 'ties
;(display ties) (newline)
(for-each
(lambda (tie offsets-for-broken-pair)
(let* ((orig (ly:grob-original tie))
(siblings (ly:spanner-broken-into orig)))
(format #t before: ~a~% (ly:grob-property orig
'control-points))
(for-each
(lambda (piece offsets-for-piece)
(if (pair? offsets-for-piece)
(set! (ly:grob-property piece 'control-points)
(map
(lambda (x y) (coord-translate x y))
(ly:tie::calc-control-points piece)
offsets-for-piece
(if (null? siblings)
(list orig)
siblings)
offsets-for-broken-pair)
(format #t after: ~a~% (ly:grob-property orig
'control-points))
))
ties all-offsets)))
#})
%
The problem also happens when the \break isn't manual. Try:
{
\repeat unfold 8 { R1 }
c' d' e'8.~
\shapeTieColumn #'( (()) (()) ( ((0 . 4) (0 . 1) (0 . 0) (0 . 0
c' d' e' r8 r2 \repeat unfold 8 { R1 }
}
My only guess is that the tweaking is happening at the wrong time--too
late? Even though 'control-points is showing a change, the item has already
been finished?
Honestly, I'm at a loss here. You might want to forward this to the lists
to see if someone else has an idea.
Best,
David
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A solution I've invented for a SATB choir
Hi, I made a score for a SATB choir; I had two choices: to make it in a single page, but really crowded ... or to make it in two pages. I choose another way; I divided it in SA and TB voices. I made the Soprano+alto part whit single staff and grouped the TB voices WHITHOUT words; and for the Tenor+Bass their single staff and grouped the SA voices WHITHOUT words. So I got a two page score, but with a single page of music for S+A and T+B. I would like to know what do you think of this trick. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/A-solution-I-ve-invented-for-a-SATB-choir-tp167639.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A solution I've invented for a SATB choir
Hello Vincenzo, interesting idea. It might increase organisation expenses, though, if you have to provide two different scores instead of just one full score. Another way to save vertical space is the one used in the 19th century complete editions of Mendelssohn, Schumann, and many other comparable choral scores (to be found on IMSLP): voices which share (or almost share) their rhythms get only one lyrics line between their staves. Even, if this is true of all voices, the lyrics will be printed below the soprano staff only. And if there are multiple stanzas, they will be distributed between the voices, which makes an enormous advantage for the engraving. I find this very reasonable and economic. (I generally think that these editions are among the greatest examples of music typesetting we have, so it’s always worth considering.) You’ll almost certainly (at least with amateurs) get complaints from choir singers about too large distances between text and music. But I think this is likely a matter of habits and needn’t be taken too seriously. An alternative would be writing the single lyrics line not below the soprano, but between the middle staves, that is for SATB, between the alto and tenor staves. Another question is how to code this in ly if there are more polyphonic passages which require separate lyrics again. I tend towards defining a command which blanks out the superfluous lyrics (\override LyricHyphen.stencil = ##f etc.), and correspondingly shows them again (\revert). It separates the presentation from the content better. Maybe even use one command for multiple lyric lines using \context (you may read that up in the NR if you’re not familiar with it) – and insert that command into the soprano staff context instead of a lyrics context. Just a few thoughts of mine, I hope they make sense. HTH, Simon Am 17.10.2014 um 22:11 schrieb Son_V: Hi, I made a score for a SATB choir; I had two choices: to make it in a single page, but really crowded ... or to make it in two pages. I choose another way; I divided it in SA and TB voices. I made the Soprano+alto part whit single staff and grouped the TB voices WHITHOUT words; and for the Tenor+Bass their single staff and grouped the SA voices WHITHOUT words. So I got a two page score, but with a single page of music for S+A and T+B. I would like to know what do you think of this trick. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/A-solution-I-ve-invented-for-a-SATB-choir-tp167639.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Opposite hand indicator
Greetings, All!
I just though I'd share a little solution I made up for piano notation
when you want to indicate that a note or chord or whatever should be
played by the opposite hand. It uses the \finger function and \set
fingerOrientations override to place them in the right spot. There are
two versions of each kind, with and without the text annotations l.h.
for left hand and r.h. for right hand. They should be easy to
customize if you want to make it look different than I've done it or
use text for another language other than English.
This really could use a dedicated engraver, probably pulling much of
the functionality from the FingeringEngraver, but this should work for
most cases as it is. Enjoy!
Happy Engraving,
Abraham
\version 2.18.2
% Hand indicators
% Note: To use these correctly, the note MUST be part of a chord, even
% if it's by itself, using, for example, the following syntax:
%
% \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
% c\finger \lhMark % or \lhMarkText to add l.h. to the mark
%
lhMarkText = \markup {
\concat {
\override #'(font-encoding . latin1) \italic l.h.
\path #0.1 #'((moveto 0 -0.5)(rlineto 0 1.5)(rlineto 0.5 0))
}
}
rhMarkText = \markup {
\concat {
\override #'(font-encoding . latin1) \italic r.h.
\path #0.1 #'((moveto 0 1)(rlineto 0 -1.5)(rlineto 0.5 0))
}
}
lhMark = \markup {
\path #0.1 #'((moveto -1 0)(rlineto 0 1.5)(rlineto 0.5 0))
}
rhMark = \markup {
\path #0.1 #'((moveto -1 0)(rlineto 0 -1.5)(rlineto 0.5 0))
}
\relative c'' {
c4-1
d-2
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
c\finger \lhMarkText f\finger \markup \tied-lyric #4~3
c\finger \rhMark\finger 2 - 3
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Indicate a broken chord should ring.
I have a piece of music I'm transcribing that's never been transcribed
before, so I'm not sure how to notate it.
It's a broken chord where all the notes should ring for another two
measures. My two attempts are below:
\version 2.19.15
\language english
\relative c''' {
%% Method one
\slurDown a,,=8 ( e''16 b g ds'8. ~ e ds b g a,2 ) ~ | q1 ~ | q1
%% Method two
{ \voiceTwo a,,1 ~ | a1 ~ | a1 | }
\\
{ \voiceThree r8 e''4. ~ e2 ~ | e1 ~ | e1 | }
\\
{ \voiceTwo s8 s16 b16 ~ b4 ~b2 ~ | b1 ~ | b1 | }
\\
{ \voiceTwo s4 g4 ~g2 ~ | g1 ~ | g1 | }
\\
{ \voiceOne \tieDown
s4 s16 ds'8. ~ ds2 ~ | ds1 ~ | ds1 | }
}
With method one, it's very evident how to play the line, but only the a and
the ds slurs/ties. Ideally, all of the notes would have slurs/ties to the
half note chord.
Method two is perhaps more literal, but it's hard to see how the line is
played.
Is there a better way to indicate that the broken chord is held? In piano
music I would use a sustain pedal indicator, but this music might be played
by a guitar.
Knute Snortum
(via Gmail)
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Re: Indicate a broken chord should ring.
Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com writes: I have a piece of music I'm transcribing that's never been transcribed before, so I'm not sure how to notate it. It's a broken chord where all the notes should ring for another two measures. My two attempts are below: URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#Selected-Snippets-18 -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
