Re: Text extender in repeat

2015-06-03 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Simon, 2015-06-03 21:23 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht : ... > Pierre, it’s up to you if you’d like to use this in the LSR snip. > ... Thank you! 'Look's perfect to me: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1006 Cheers, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
ok did it :) One score no hacks really and ... ya works great! http://mglessons.com/lilypond/try5.pdf Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

RE:Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
actually I just thought of a way to avoid to scores -- then it would be perfect :) in my eyes. Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
Well as it's been pointed out in another thread from Simon. My work is sometimes a bit hacky! However I look at it this way if something needs to be done I do it the best I can with the knowledge I have at the time. If there is no solution then I think hacky works until one better comes along! aft

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread tisimst
LGTM! Nice work. I'd say that definitely does it. Would you be willing to share the source for try4? Maybe it could be added to the LSR? I am satisfied with that. -Abraham On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Stephen MacNeil [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n177469...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Well I had f

Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
Well I had fun at this game, so I wanted to see it in action. The first section requires a little tweak here and there but after that it's good. I modeled it after your example (spacing) http://mglessons.com/lilypond/try4-orig.pdf After i formatted it :) then i adjusted the spacing. and here it

Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
Here is my last (hope) attempt unless I get a better idea. but it seams good. http://mglessons.com/lilypond/try3.pdf cheers Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
What one first or second? http://mglessons.com/lilypond/try.pdf http://mglessons.com/lilypond/try2.pdf Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread tisimst
Cool! What is the source for that? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Stephen MacNeil [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n177464...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > sorry missed sending here > This is what I got a bit different but as they say close enough for rock > and roll :) > > http://mglessons.com/lilypo

RE:Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
well here are my goes at it first http://mglessons.com/lilypond/try.pdf second http://mglessons.com/lilypond/try2.pdf ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
sorry missed sending here This is what I got a bit different but as they say close enough for rock and roll :) http://mglessons.com/lilypond/try.pdf On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Stephen MacNeil wrote: > This is what I got a bit different but as they say close enough for rock > and roll :) >

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Klaus Blum
tisimst wrote > I couldn't see the instrument names at all... Neither could I... If you try \skip 8 \skip 4 \skip 2 you can see the instrument names move to the left. Increasing the indent value may help visualizing the effect. With "\skip 1*4", they completely disappear. I have no idea what's g

Re: Change direction of already positioned markup?

2015-06-03 Thread Peter Crighton
2015-06-01 15:50 GMT+02:00 Vaughan McAlley : > On 1 June 2015 at 12:14, Peter Crighton wrote: > > > > 2015-05-31 23:43 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht : > >> > >> Am 31.05.2015 um 18:25 schrieb Jacques Menu: > >> > >> Hello Peter, > >> > >> Maybe tags would be an easy solution, specifying variants accor

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread tisimst
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Klaus Blum [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n177459...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Hi Abraham, > > whether or not this type of score makes sense... here is what I've got so > far: > > % > - > ... >

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread tisimst
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:31 PM, N. Andrew Walsh [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n17745...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > PS- reading that blog made my head hurt. Is working with Sibelius always > this nightmarishly clunky and dysfunctional? > Just for the record, I couldn't agree more :-) > On Wed, J

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Klaus Blum
Hi Abraham, whether or not this type of score makes sense... here is what I've got so far: % - \version "2.18.2" sortClef = { \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #' #((left-edge cue-end-clef brea

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
PS- reading that blog made my head hurt. Is working with Sibelius always this nightmarishly clunky and dysfunctional? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:24 PM, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: > I would think it might be preferable to follow what I take to be the more > standard practice for cutaway scores, in whi

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
I would think it might be preferable to follow what I take to be the more standard practice for cutaway scores, in which all staves appear at the beginning of the first system, with whatever other establishing marks (clef, key, instrument name, tempo, time signature, etc) are necessary, and then bl

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
Thanks Stephen On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > You can see them on > >

Re: Text extender in repeat

2015-06-03 Thread Jayaratna
> It will be, if the following syllable will be successfully shifted (see > below). But IMO it’s no problem to leave the __ out in cases like this > (short melisma, long syllable). Now I see your point: moving right the following syllable. > \once\override > LyricText.self-alignment-X = #-0.7

Re: combining simultaneous notes

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
>What do you mean by ‘works’? well what he posted .. The top looks like the bottom does! on "2.18.2" >Well, this is clearly a hack. I’m surprised that Lily doesn’t complain. More precisely: it’s improper to use two voices and >fake the look of one voice by tweaking stem direction. OK >And

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
You can see them on . ~ Simon Am 03.06.2015 um 21:41 schrieb Stephen MacNeil: No i doesn't show Stephen On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Simon Albrecht > wrote:

Re: Text extender in repeat

2015-06-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, Am 03.06.2015 um 21:35 schrieb Jayaratna: No, we shouldn’t, since it is perfectly all right to left-align a syllable which has a melisma. Now the syllables 'the' are aligned left, left-aligned :-) but they should be moved further left because the melisma sign that follows is barely v

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
No i doesn't show Stephen On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > Am 03.06.2015 um 21:26 schrieb Stephen MacNeil: > >> have a sample of what it should look like? >> > There was one inline, didn’t you receive it? > ~ Simon > ___ lilypon

Re: combining simultaneous notes

2015-06-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 03.06.2015 um 21:19 schrieb Stephen MacNeil: The example works on What do you mean by ‘works’? \version "2.18.2" so i guess it's a "2.19.22" issue I tested it on lilybin and this works in "2.19.21 for your example anyway. not sure of "2.19.22" as i don't have it \version "2.19.21"

Re: Text extender in repeat

2015-06-03 Thread Jayaratna
> No, we shouldn’t, since it is perfectly all right to left-align a > syllable which has a melisma. Now the syllables 'the' are aligned left, but they should be moved further left because the melisma sign that follows is barely visible. > but I’d correct this with { \tweak self-alignment-X -0.5

Re: Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 03.06.2015 um 21:26 schrieb Stephen MacNeil: have a sample of what it should look like? There was one inline, didn’t you receive it? ~ Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

RE:Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
have a sample of what it should look like? Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Text extender in repeat

2015-06-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 03.06.2015 um 19:12 schrieb Jayaratna: Dear Peter and Pierre, thank you so much, it works. The \null solution is better IMHO. Now before keeping this snippet online we should move left both syllables 'the', No, we shouldn’t, since it is perfectly all right to left-align a syllable which has

RE:combining simultaneous notes

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
The example works on \version "2.18.2" so i guess it's a "2.19.22" issue I tested it on lilybin and this works in "2.19.21 for your example anyway. not sure of "2.19.22" as i don't have it \version "2.19.21" aa={a4 b a b} bb={a4 g a g} \new Staff { << \aa\\ \stemUp\bb >> } \new Staff{

Re: combining simultaneous notes

2015-06-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Arno, Am 03.06.2015 um 16:26 schrieb Arno Waschk: dear list, (sorry for cross posting, i am not sure where to address correctly...) Since this is about usage of the program, the user list is the right place. The devel list serves to coordinate development of Lilypond. i have a problem

Re: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread David Kastrup
Stephen MacNeil writes: > I agree \accidentalStyle is nice syntax. And i agree my example was > over kill for the situation (But works). However I disagree, on Score > vs Voice/Staff. If you need to change in and out of using accidentals > for example in a book. Score works well. Well, it turns

Re: Text extender in repeat

2015-06-03 Thread Jayaratna
Dear Peter and Pierre, thank you so much, it works. The \null solution is better IMHO. Now before keeping this snippet online we should move left both syllables 'the', to show the melisma on the second crotchet, which was going to be my second question. TIA, Andy -- View this message in conte

Re: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
I agree \accidentalStyle is nice syntax. And i agree my example was over kill for the situation (But works). However I disagree, on Score vs Voice/Staff. If you need to change in and out of using accidentals for example in a book. Score works well. Take this example http://burrito.whatbox.ca:1526

Creating cut-away or scrapbook scores in LilyPond

2015-06-03 Thread Abraham Lee
All, I was browsing through some online engraving tutorials (featured on sibeliusblog.com some years ago) and I couldn't seem to figure out how to do this one: *>>> GO FROM:* *>>> TO:* Here's the basic idea: The Woodwind group hypothetically doesn't start playing until measure four, so I do

Re: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread David Kastrup
Stephen MacNeil writes: > you can also do > > #(set-accidental-style 'forget 'Score) > then > > #(set-accidental-style 'modern 'Score) > > to go back Apart from \accidentalStyle having a nicer syntax, I strongly suspect that you don't use the last argument correctly. 'Score implies that any tem

Re: combining simultaneous notes

2015-06-03 Thread David Kastrup
Arno Waschk writes: > dear list, > > (sorry for cross posting, i am not sure where to address correctly...) > > i have a problem which seemed trivial to me, but i cannot resolve > according to the docs successfully: > > \version = "2.19.22" > aa={a4 b4 a4 b4} > bb={a4 g a g} > \new Staff { > << >

RE:Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread Stephen MacNeil
you can also do #(set-accidental-style 'forget 'Score) then #(set-accidental-style 'modern 'Score) to go back %%% \version "2.18.2" \language "english" \score { \new Staff \with { \remove "Time_signature_engraver" } \relative c { \key c \major \clef bass \set T

combining simultaneous notes

2015-06-03 Thread Arno Waschk
dear list, (sorry for cross posting, i am not sure where to address correctly...) i have a problem which seemed trivial to me, but i cannot resolve according to the docs successfully: \version = "2.19.22" aa={a4 b4 a4 b4} bb={a4 g a g} \new Staff { << \aa \bb >> } \new Staff{ a4 a } p

Re: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.06.2015 um 15:55 schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines Thanks both David and Urs. Urs's didn't work too well as it still left space for the non-existent accidental. David's solution worked much better. This is interesting because in the development version this

Re: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread Peter Toye
Thanks both David and Urs. Urs's didn't work too well as it still left space for the non-existent accidental. David's solution worked much better. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.o

Re: Text extender in repeat

2015-06-03 Thread Peter Crighton
This also works for hyphens, by the way: \markup \null -- Very useful, thanks, Pierre! -- Peter Crighton | Musician & Music Engraver based in Mainz, Germany http://www.petercrighton.de 2015-06-02 23:31 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider < pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>: > Hum, 'looks like the

Re: dynamic outside staff

2015-06-03 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Ahhh!!! Thank you for the link to the documentation, very clear. Ciao, g. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/dynamic-outside-staff-tp177417p177426.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ li

Re: dynamic outside staff

2015-06-03 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 3 giu 2015 alle 11:23, Gianmaria Lari ha scritto: Sorry for my not clear english terminology! Yes, Federico, I want to span the hairpin over the bar line. I had a look to the documentation you mentioned and made some test and I have some issues. If I do: \version "2.18.2" \time

Re: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Toye writes: > I'm well aware that after inserting a manual barline in a cadenza I need to > use cautionary accidentals. > > However, following a barline LP automatically inserts a natural. In this > snippet I don't want the natural on the c immediately after the barline. > > I can't see

Re: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread Urs Liska
\once \omit Accidental HTH Urs Am 03.06.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Peter Toye: Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines I'm well aware that after inserting a manual barline in a cadenza I need to use cautionary accidentals. However, following a barline LP automatically inserts a natural. In this s

Re: dynamic outside staff

2015-06-03 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Sorry for my not clear english terminology! Yes, Federico, I want to span the hairpin over the bar line. I had a look to the documentation you mentioned and made some test and I have some issues. If I do: \version "2.18.2" \time 4/4 \relative {a\< b c d e*\!* f g a } I expect that the hairpin is

Accidentals in cadenzas after barlines

2015-06-03 Thread Peter Toye
I'm well aware that after inserting a manual barline in a cadenza I need to use cautionary accidentals. However, following a barline LP automatically inserts a natural. In this snippet I don't want the natural on the c immediately after the barline. I can't see how to stop it - what's the trick

Re: dynamic outside staff

2015-06-03 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 3 giu 2015 alle 8:45, Gianmaria Lari ha scritto: I would like that a "<" symbol span outside staff. This is my code \version "2.18.2" \time 4/4 \relative { a\< b c d e\! f g a } Do you mean that you want it to span over the bar line? See the first snippet ("Setting hairpin behav

Re: Text extender in repeat

2015-06-03 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Added to the LSR: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1006 (tagged 'docs'). Cheers, Pierre 2015-06-02 23:31 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider < pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>: > Hum, 'looks like the extender accepts 'null'... > So even more simple : > > ... > \addlyrics { >of Prin- c