Re: Chords and what they mean

Am 18.09.2015 04:10, schrieb msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca: On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Blöchl Bernhard wrote: I would call (always depending on the context) Cmadd4, F7sus2/C, D#6no5add2/C. Always consider the harmonic context!!! What exactly does the "harmonic context" mean? What would be specific

idea for fretboard-diagram chords

Hi all, in my study about jazz it became very clear to me that the predefined fretboard diagrams in lilypond are very limited, and why. There just are too many ways to form a chord on the guitar to list them all. I know the user can create their own custom fretboard tables, but in my case, each

Re: Chords and what they mean

Am Freitag, den 18. September 2015 um 08:05:03 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: > If one "colours" that up you get the bright colourful variety of > skilled music that began with the development of orchestral events outside > the churches and cathedrals and in the brothels of New Orleans.

Re: Chords and what they mean

The most important thing to understand about the way Lilypond does chords, is that there are three completely different parts. 1) Input syntax 2) Note sets 3) Chord symbols 1) Input syntax To ask why writing "Csus" does not produce "Csus"? Is to ask the wrong question. Because the Input

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 1:39 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > 2015-09-19 1:05 GMT+02:00 <70147pers...@telia.com>: >> On 2015-09-19 00:13, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Noeck writes: >>> Having different *input* syntax for different people according to their

Re: Chords and what they mean

Sorry - I forgot the M! So once again: I love all LP users and I do not want to be unpolite - but R-T-F-M Am 18.09.2015 21:20, schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com: ... Csus means it would be fine, if I could define this

Re: Chords and what they mean

Sorry, I am heavily confused and severely irritated. Csus4 or c:1.4.5 DOES deliver , say Lilypod is meaning for c:1.4.5 and csus. Here my example again: \version "2.19.25" theMusic = \chordmode { c:1.4.5 c:sus4 } << \context ChordNames \theMusic \context Voice \theMusic So, please

Re: Chords and what they mean

On 19 September 2015 at 07:30, David Kastrup wrote: > > We have an exception for c:13 already (it leaves off the 11). It would be great if that actually displayed C13. When a 13th is the most complicated chord you’re using, you have to trawl the docs and do a whole lot of

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 1:05 GMT+02:00 <70147pers...@telia.com>: > On 2015-09-19 00:13, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Noeck writes: >> >>> Having different *input* syntax for different people according to their >>> taste is more complicated and it's doubtable that this is a good aim for

Re: Chords and what they mean

I am just getting off but read your actual posting and your different interpretation. For me it is logic to understand, that c:sus will suspend the 3. What should happen with a chord without a 3? A powerchord. Usually one would define a substitute for 3, that is not the case with c:sus. Why

Re: Chords and what they mean

On 2015-09-18 3:20 PM, Blöchl Bernhard wrote: Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com: ... Csus means it would be fine, if I could define this once, and then use my definition(s) when entering the music, instead of, like today, having to enter Csus4 or c:1.4.5, Do you use a

Re: Chords and what they mean

Hi all! This thread has evolved in a very interesting direction, and although the discussion is often, I have to admit, much over my head, as being a, however interested, but none the less, musical amateur. I will not break this discussion, so I step into the thread via a side path. Now I

Re: Violin notation advice requested

> No, both are fingerings. The upper fingering is the recommended version > for best phrasing and distribution across strings, the lower fingering > is the simpler version mainly in first position (not sure whether the I > is supposed to indicate position or the E string, I think the latter), >

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-18 21:20 GMT+02:00 Blöchl Bernhard : > > > > > > Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com: >> >> ... >> >> Csus means it would be fine, if I >> could define this once, and then use my definition(s) when entering >> the music, instead of, like

Re: Chords and what they mean

Hi Blöchl (et al.), I agree that it would be interesting to know whether/how one can redefine the input such that (e.g.) c:5 gives (or or whatever one wants) rather than (current implementation). However, modulo a language/communication barrier, I’d like to answer your other impliciit

Polyphonic repeats with lyrics (and rests)

I noticed some erroneous alto lyrics invading recent CPDL editions of Farmer's Fair Phyllis. I think the cause was some overenthusiastic factoring of the lyrics using tagging. So I thought I'd run up a copy myself, producing folded/unfolded scores from one source file. However I found, like

Re: Chords and what they mean

On 19/09/15 8:49 AM, Kaj Persson wrote: As you wrote Csus ought to mean that the first third is removed, and nothing else. Among professional musicians, which I am not, but I have friends who are, this is not the whole truth, there exists a de facto standard which does not exactly coincide

Re: idea for fretboard-diagram chords

Am 18.09.2015 um 08:40 schrieb bart deruyter: Hi all, [...] For inversions one might choose a number based on the n'th note of a chord, for example 2 as the second note from the root note, which in the case of c:m would result in a ees as the lowest note and display a fretboard diagram

Re: Chords and what they mean

On 2015-09-19 00:13, David Kastrup wrote: Noeck writes: Having different *input* syntax for different people according to their taste is more complicated and it's doubtable that this is a good aim for LilyPond. Exchanging code gets more complicated and small snippets are

Re: Chords and what they mean

Noeck writes: > Having different *input* syntax for different people according to their > taste is more complicated and it's doubtable that this is a good aim for > LilyPond. Exchanging code gets more complicated and small snippets are > not necessarily self-consistent. You

Re: Re: Chords and what they mean

On 2015-09-18 21:39, Thomas Morley wrote: 2015-09-18 21:20 GMT+02:00 Blöchl Bernhard : Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com: ... Csus means it would be fine, if I could define this once, and then use my definition(s) when entering the

Re: Chords and what they mean

Hi Kaj, Kieren, Am 18.09.2015 um 22:47 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: >> The question why c:5 only just gets a "normal" c chord instead of a power >> chord > It’s a good question. > Certainly, composers (like me) who work in musical theatre write C5 to mean > … so it would be nice to enter the same

Re: Chords and what they mean

I just was rereading your post as Charm (in a later post) recommended. If I interpret you correctly, you would like a personal chord library yourself? A library you can maintain/care yourself? Good idea! Harm was sending me a piece of code for arabic scales (many thanks!!! Great! Works

Re: Chords and what they mean

Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi Blöchl (et al.), > > I agree that it would be interesting to know whether/how one can > redefine the input such that (e.g.) c:5 gives (or or > whatever one wants) rather than (current implementation). > > However, modulo a

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

Hi, Alright! This should do it... You can: --Adapt this for versions < 2.19.27 with a loss of overriding power (style, dash-fraction, etc.)--see comments beginning in line 435 --Use/mix markups and strings. --Specify any number of texts >= 2 for your spanner. --Break it across an arbitrary

Re: Chords and what they mean

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015, Blöchl Bernhard wrote: > I tried to make clear that there is not just a single correct name for a > chord. That is only true for the simplest chords of our simple original folk When someone enters a set of notes and asks LilyPond to print the chord name, there's such a thing

Re: Chords and what they mean

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015, BB wrote: > Can you really feed some notes to Lilypond and it tells you the name of the > chord? A kind of reverse chord finder? I have not found in the manual. I thought that was the point under discussion. It's in the manual here:

Biographies (was: OT: Beauty of programming languages)

Nam Sibyllam quidem Cumis ego ipse oculis meis vidi in ampulle pendere, et cum illi pueri dicerent: Σίβυλλα τί θέλεις; respondebat illa: άποθανεΐν θέλω. [I saw myself with my own eyes the Cumaean Sibyl hanging in a bottle, and when the boys said to her "Sibyl, what's your

Re: Chords and what they mean

Hi Matthew, >> Can you really feed some notes to Lilypond and it tells you the name of the >> chord? A kind of reverse chord finder? I have not found in the manual. > > I thought that was the point under discussion. It's in the manual here: > >

Re: Chords and what they mean

Am 18.09.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >>> What's with ? It is Em#5 or C/E >> While we're at being picky, that would have to be Em with a flattened 6 … > While _technically_ correct, you’d definitely want to write Em#5 for any > musical theatre performers/MDs, or most of

Re: Chords and what they mean

Hi Urs, > Perfect example of "context”. Exactly! > I, as a classical musician, will get confused if presented with namings > that don't follow the harmonic content (given the historical style of > the music). > That would be the same for Em-6 (or however you'd spell it out) as bis>. Yes. In

Re: Chords and what they mean

Hi Urs, >> What's with ? It is Em#5 or C/E > While we're at being picky, that would have to be Em with a flattened 6 … While _technically_ correct, you’d definitely want to write Em#5 for any musical theatre performers/MDs, or most of the jazzers I know. And changing it to B# isn’t

Re: Chords and what they mean

Can you really feed some notes to Lilypond and it tells you the name of the chord? A kind of reverse chord finder? I have not found in the manual. Is'nt the composer the person to define the desired sound in defining notes and chord colours? Again: There is not just one single name for an

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

Here I come, 50's :) Instruments: keyboards and acoustic guitar. Started using Lilypond in combination with Sublime Text 2 in 2013 to typeset my own music, after getting frustrated with Sibelius. I have learned about Lilypond through Steinberg's blog on their new notation software. Currently

Re: Chords and what they mean

Am 18.09.2015 um 15:39 schrieb BB: > What's with ? It is Em#5 or C/E While we're at being picky, that would have to be Em with a flattened 6 ... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Chords and what they mean

Hi all, On Sep 17, 2015, at 10:10 PM, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > If we are hoping to teach a computer program, i.e. LilyPond, to assign > correct names to chords, then we have to really say what the > considerations are that lead one name to be correct over another. I don’t think anyone

Re: Chords and what they mean

Does Medivial and Renaissance music, Dufay, Ockeghem or Josquin really use chords in their sheets? The subject of that thread is "Chords and what they mean". On 18.09.2015 08:41, Orm Finnendahl wrote: Am Freitag, den 18. September 2015 um 08:05:03 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: If one

Re: Violin notation advice requested

"Javier Ruiz-Alma" writes: > Pardon my ignorance RE: string notation. > > An 1800's typeset I'm transcribing uses different fonts for what I figured > were all fingering indications. > > Is there a significance for the use of unique fonts for notes having both > upper and

Re: Chords and what they mean

Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com: ... Csus means it would be fine, if I could define this once, and then use my definition(s) when entering the music, instead of, like today, having to enter Csus4 or c:1.4.5, Do you use a different program? I checked c:1.4.5 and get

Violin notation advice requested

Pardon my ignorance RE: string notation. An 1800's typeset I'm transcribing uses different fonts for what I figured were all fingering indications. Is there a significance for the use of unique fonts for notes having both upper and lower number indications? I wondered if the lower digit may

Fauré requiem

Hi, I've looked at your score and I fall into the Simon Albrecht camp, but I'll reply privately with questions of preference. I have a copy of OUP's Rutter 1893 version, only the vocal, not the full score. It's in the OUP's larger format (inconvenient for folders) and I've never sung from it (my

Re: Chords and what they mean

Am 18.09.2015 um 17:06 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >> Perfect example of "context”. > Exactly! > >> I, as a classical musician, will get confused if presented with namings >> that don't follow the harmonic content (given the historical style of >> the music). >> That would be the same

Re: Chords and what they mean

Hi Urs, > the question of "simpler" is a question of context (i.e. background on the > reader's part). Agreed. “Simpler” is also a question of practicality: for most pianists I know or have worked with, Bb7/D is significantly easier to parse at sight than A#7/Cx, regardless of what comes