Re:Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
Thank you for the interesting analysis and the links. With the flats and > sharps instead of "-es" and "-is" in your code, it is a bit strange. > I'm glad it was helpful, despite using the the lilypond english. > The m7b5 chord (your example) in the jazz slang usually/often is called > "half

Re: Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
I think the proper way for reaching your proposed Lilypond redesign is to pay a developer ... Am 19.09.2015 23:52, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com: On 2015-09-19 13:52, Johan Vromans wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:05:12 +0200 70147pers...@telia.com wrote: This should, by means of a

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread David Nalesnik
David, On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 3:48 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > David Nalesnik writes: > > > (As an aside: I must say that David's suggestion of using lyrics > > produces miraculous results without the hundreds and hundreds of lines > > of new code!

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Brett Duncan
On 20/09/15 11:30 AM, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: > Just to be clear, in Hancock's piece and other jazz standards, D7sus is > not simply a 7th chord with the third omitted. As Mark Levine explained > in the "The Jazz Piano Book" (Sher Music Co. 1989), for D7sus (or simply > "Dsus" as it

Re: Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread 70147persson
On 2015-09-19 13:52, Johan Vromans wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:05:12 +0200 70147pers...@telia.com wrote: This should, by means of a translation table, take my input and translate it into LP code. So when I write c:sus this will be changed to e.g. c:sus4 (or perhaps c:1.4.5) before it is

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Nalesnik wrote Saturday, September 19, 2015 7:14 PM On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > "Trevor Daniels" writes: > >> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/opera-and-stage-musicals#dialogue-over-music >> >> I'd

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Trevor (et al.), > Actually for the purpose I had in mind (words over music but spoken and out > of rhythm) > we wouldn't need a spanner line, just the spaced-out text. After David N. made his wonderful MeasureAttachedSpanner for me, we spoke (briefly) of how it might be taken “to the goal

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Trevor, On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > David Nalesnik wrote Saturday, September 19, 2015 7:14 PM > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > > [...] > > Right now LyricHyphen will draw something resembling

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > "Trevor Daniels" writes: > > > > http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/opera-and-stage-musicals#dialogue-over-music > > > > I'd like to see this developed and added to LP core. > > >

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 1:14 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: Right now LyricHyphen will draw something resembling the spanner line, but > comprised of a succession of round-filled boxes. An enhancement of the > stencil callback would be needed to allow for all the

Re: Violin notation advice requested

2015-09-19 Thread Chris Yate
No, It's quite common to indicate the string by Roman numerals. Printed music would hardly ever indicate position, but it is normal to see either "sul G" or "IV". On 19 Sep 2015 12:31, "Ralph Palmer" wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Michael Gerdau

Re: idea for fretboard-diagram chords

2015-09-19 Thread pls
Marc Hohl writes: > Am 18.09.2015 um 08:40 schrieb bart deruyter: >> Hi all, > [...] >> For inversions one might choose a number based on the n'th note of a >> chord, for example 2 as the second note from the root note, which in the >> case of c:m would result in a ees as the

Re: Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Kaj Persson
On 2015-09-19 05:06, Brett Duncan wrote: On 19/09/15 8:49 AM, Kaj Persson wrote: As you wrote Csus ought to mean that the first third is removed, and nothing else. Among professional musicians, which I am not, but I have friends who are, this is not the whole truth, there exists a de facto

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Johan Vromans
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:05:12 +0200 70147pers...@telia.com wrote: > This should, by means of a translation table, take my input and > translate it into LP code. So when I write c:sus this will be changed to > e.g. c:sus4 (or perhaps c:1.4.5) before it is dealt with by LP, and when > I write c:5

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
A bit OT: For anybody having doubts if sus chords are of any use, I found a nice example in jazz. In Herbie Hancock’s jazz piece Maiden Voyage one can recognize examples of sus chords covering D7sus, F7sus, Eb7sus, and F#7sus (C#-13). Lilipond unhappily omits the sus in this combinations.

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Thank you for the interesting analysis and the links. With the flats and sharps instead of "-es" and "-is" in your code, it is a bit strange. The m7b5 chord (your example) in the jazz slang usually/often is called "half diminished" an uses the slashed 0 "ø" symbolically "halving" the 0.I do

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
There was a long thread "Lilypond and Jazz chords" in 2009 https://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg48254.html I have not read it completely, but may be one might find it interesting? I think one might find many repetitions and may be some additional aspects?

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Alright! This should do it… Amazing! (As always…) > Change the distance from text to line with TextSpanner.line-offset, which > defaults to #'(0.0 . 0.0). Love this. Is there a tweak for the vertical position of the line (independent of the text)? > P.S. One area of further

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Brett Duncan
On 19/09/15 7:52 PM, Blöchl Bernhard wrote: A bit OT: For anybody having doubts if sus chords are of any use, I found a nice example in jazz. In Herbie Hancock’s jazz piece Maiden Voyage one can recognize examples of sus chords covering D7sus, F7sus, Eb7sus, and F#7sus (C#-13). Lilipond

Re: Violin notation advice requested

2015-09-19 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Michael Gerdau wrote: > > No, both are fingerings. > > I've never seen a > violin fingering indicating the string. I have seen violin and viola fingerings indicating the string, but I agree that it is infrequent and usually the string is

Re: Chords and what they mean

2015-09-19 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
For sure Hancock is giving the sus some specific "colour". I just listend Maiden Voyage and I am sure he always play a powerchord root doubled and a 5 with his left hand, not a complete triad. Nothing strange for modal jazz. And a 7sus chord with the right hand. Not shure, but it sounds like

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Kieren, On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > Change the distance from text to line with TextSpanner.line-offset, > which defaults to #'(0.0 . 0.0). > > Love this. Is there a tweak for the vertical position of the line > (independent

Transpose without collapsing double accidentals

2015-09-19 Thread mskala
If transposing music produces notes with alteration of more than a whole tone, \transpose will produce a warning and change the note name. I would like to be able to transpose notes up or down an octave without changing their names or alteration at all, even if it is more than a whole tone.

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Sure, no problem. I added a 'line-Y-offset property which just raises/lowers > the line without any reference to the texts. Perfect! Thanks. (To my eye, a setting of about 0.0875 is right.) > For consistency, I renamed 'line-offset to 'line-X-offset. Makes sense. Thanks again,

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Kieren, On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi David, > > > Sure, no problem. I added a 'line-Y-offset property which just > raises/lowers the line without any reference to the texts. > > Perfect! Thanks. > (To my eye, a setting of

Re: Transpose without collapsing double accidentals

2015-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes: > If transposing music produces notes with alteration of more than a whole > tone, \transpose will produce a warning and change the note name. I would > like to be able to transpose notes up or down an octave without changing > their names or alteration at all,

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik writes: > (As an aside: I must say that David's suggestion of using lyrics > produces miraculous results without the hundreds and hundreds of lines > of new code! Don't want a connector line? Don't write a hyphen. > Etc.) Actually, we might have had

Re: Violin notation advice requested

2015-09-19 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Chris Yate wrote: > No, It's quite common to indicate the string by Roman numerals. Printed > music would hardly ever indicate position, but it is normal to see either > "sul G" or "IV". > Actually, I have occasionally seen (and used on

Re: Transpose without collapsing double accidentals

2015-09-19 Thread mskala
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015, David Kastrup wrote: > msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes: > > > If transposing music produces notes with alteration of more than a whole > > tone, \transpose will produce a warning and change the note name. I would > > like to be able to transpose notes up or down an octave

Re: Transpose without collapsing double accidentals

2015-09-19 Thread mskala
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015, Michael Gerdau wrote: > > > Issue 1009, fixed in version 2.19.0. > > > > LilyPond 2.19 (installation of which is non-trivial, since it seems to be > > only available through Git > > Have you checked out > http://lilypond.org/development.de.html > > Of course it is not 2.19.0

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Trevor (et al.), > This looks potentially very useful for adding spoken words which need to be > said during a passage of music, often required in musical theatre. If we do this, let’s do it right… I’m willing to pay some sponsorship for it. Cheers, Kieren.

Re: Transpose without collapsing double accidentals

2015-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015, Michael Gerdau wrote: >> > > Issue 1009, fixed in version 2.19.0. >> > >> > LilyPond 2.19 (installation of which is non-trivial, since it seems to be >> > only available through Git >> >> Have you checked out >>

Re: Transpose without collapsing double accidentals

2015-09-19 Thread Michael Gerdau
> > Issue 1009, fixed in version 2.19.0. > > LilyPond 2.19 (installation of which is non-trivial, since it seems to be > only available through Git Have you checked out http://lilypond.org/development.de.html Of course it is not 2.19.0 but 2.19.27 HTH, Michael -- Michael Gerdau email:

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
This looks potentially very useful for adding spoken words which need to be said during a passage of music, often required in musical theatre. This is very difficult and hackish to do with current LP - see

Re: Text centralized above a TextSpan

2015-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels" writes: > http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/opera-and-stage-musicals#dialogue-over-music > > I'd like to see this developed and added to LP core. > > Trevor > > - Original Message - > From: David Nalesnik > To: Simon