note duration without note name

[Gianmaria Lari]

I would expect the two scores generated by the following code were the
same.

\version "2.19.81"
{a8 8}
{a 8}

Why lilypond treats them differently?

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variable and tie

[Gianmaria Lari]

I would like to tie the last note contained in a variable like this

\version "2.19.81"
var = {a b a}
{\var ~ a}

but this generates an error. This is just a simple example, the reason why
I would like to do this is because the variable in the real piece is used
many times without the tie except in one case where it has to be tied.

At the moment I do this

\version "2.19.81"
var = {a b \tag #'lastnote a}
{\removeWithTag #'lastnote \var a ~ a}

but I would like to know if there are other solution (maybe better?).

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Re: beaming in tuplets

[Marco Bagolin]

Thank you all :-)



2018-04-12 22:48 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska :

>
>
> Am 12.04.2018 um 20:45 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:
>
> Marco,
>
>
>
> Got the 3’s on each group – see attached.
>
>
>
>
> Rather than manually counting beamlets you can set beam subdivisions:
>
>   \set subdivideBeams = ##t
>   \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
>
> and remove the manual beams.
>
> Additionally remove the tuplet bracket
>
>   \omit TupletBracket
>
> Finally you can tell LilyPond to automatically group consecutive tuplets:
>
>   \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
>
> which removes the need to explicitly write so many \tuplet {} expressions.
>
> The full file now reads:
>
> \version "2.18.2"
>
> \relative {
>
>   % Activate beam subdivision
>   \set subdivideBeams = ##t
>   \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
>   \omit TupletBracket
>
>   % Automatically group tuplets
>   \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
>
>   \clef bass
>   \time 4/4
>   \key bes \major
>   r8
>
>   \tuplet 3/2 {
> f16 \upbow -\markup {
>   \line { \concat { \dynamic p } \italic { accel. e cresc. }}}
> f f ges16 ges16 ges16  aes16 aes16 aes16
> bes16 bes16 bes16  c16 c16 c16
> d16 d16 d16  ees16 ees16 ees16
>   }
>   |
>   f1
> }
>
> HTH
> Urs
>
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Re: \include command and local network folders

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno gio 12 apr 2018 alle 22:42, foxfanfare  
ha scritto:

SoundsFromSound wrote

 Yes, you're correct. It's a valid shared path (don't worry about the
 Samba share stuff).

 When I map drives for sharing like this, I have success using the
 computer name vs. the IP, for what it's worth - even though both
 *should* work for all applications...

 (i.e. instead of

 \\192.168.0.13\Public\test.ly

 ...

 *\\WorkstationTwo\Public\test.ly*


Actually, I also tested with the NAS name but it didn't worked either!
I thought then it might be password related, that's why I made all my 
test

from the Public folder. No success either.

It worked neither with the IP adress nor with the name of the device. 
Only

by mapping as suggested.

So my final guess is that frescobaldi doesn't support SMB!



This reminds me an issue I had a few months ago and I found the 
confirmation here:

https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/1053

But I did not add any comments. Weird.
Later today I'll be able to make a test and confirm.




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Re: \include command and local network folders

[David Wright]

On Thu 12 Apr 2018 at 14:17:08 (-0700), foxfanfare wrote:
> David Wright wrote
> > Then I think that's the filename you need to use. I assume
> > "Starting lilypond-windows…" means you're running on a windows box.
> 
> Oh I see what you mean. But no! Frescobaldi starts compiling with this
> Starting lilypond-windows.exe
> 
> ... but I'm running on Windows 10...

Fine, you're up to date.

>  
> 
> As you see, here's three different ways to access the same distant folder
> 1) with IP adress
> 2) with the device name
> 3) with a mapping drive letter
> 
> When I open the *.ly file in frescobaldi, it can work only in the third
> option!

It might be worth posting screenshots of Fresco failing with correctly
specified filenames, particularly if you want to report a bug.

What happens if you run your test file directly from LP, both .ly
and .ily files—does that work correctly? If so, there may be a
problem with how filenames are passed around in Fresco.
I don't know how you do system call tracing in windows, particularly
from a GUI. That's one for windows users.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Werner (and David),

> Well, this is cheating, isn't it?

I prefer “creative”.  ;)

Cheers,
Kieren.


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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Werner LEMBERG]

>>> This is the solution I will use, since David's solution doesn't
>>> really work for me: As the attached image for this snippet shows,
>>> the staff line gets enlarged horizontally to the left.  Using the
>>> baloon stuff, the text properly sticks out.
>>
>> What about
>>
>>  \new Staff
>>  {
>>\tweak stencil
>>  #(grob-transformer 'stencil
>>(lambda (grob default)
>>  (grob-interpret-markup grob
>>   #{ \markup \with-dimensions-from "a" \column {

Well, this is cheating, isn't it?

>>\stencil #default
>>\vspace #-2.5
>>\center-align "This is a long, centered text" } #})))
>>\time 2/4 c'1
>>  }
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>
> Uh, I think the balloon version is a whole lot more appropriate for
> that use case and cleaner anyway.

I agree.


Werner

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Re: \include command and local network folders

[foxfanfare]

David Wright wrote
> Then I think that's the filename you need to use. I assume
> "Starting lilypond-windows…" means you're running on a windows box.

Oh I see what you mean. But no! Frescobaldi starts compiling with this
Starting lilypond-windows.exe

... but I'm running on Windows 10...

 

As you see, here's three different ways to access the same distant folder
1) with IP adress
2) with the device name
3) with a mapping drive letter

When I open the *.ly file in frescobaldi, it can work only in the third
option!




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Re: \include command and local network folders

[David Wright]

On Thu 12 Apr 2018 at 12:13:21 (-0700), foxfanfare wrote:
> David Wright wrote
> > I see no filenames. I only see //192.168.1.13/Public/test.ly which
> > looks like an incomplete URL, but lacking its protocol (like HTTP:).
> > I can only assume when you mapped the files to a drive letter,
> > you got the syntax correct. Would this reference help?
> > 
> > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365247(v=vs.85).aspx
> 
> I don't understand David : \\192.168.0.13\Public\test.ly is a correct
> Windows path.

Then I think that's the filename you need to use. I assume
"Starting lilypond-windows…" means you're running on a windows box.

> I just changed the original "\" with the unix "/" for Frescobaldi to deal
> with (//192.168.0.13/Public/test.ly)
> I think it is named SMB right?

Samba implements SMB on unix, yes, but programs on windows should
use their own filename syntax to reference the files transparently.

In linux, you'd typically see something like //192.168.0.13/Public
if you were mounting a share as a client. Similarly you could only
hand a filename like //192.168.0.13/Public/test.ly to a client that
already knew what protocol to use, like smbclient.

So try using the filename you wanted to specify, rather than
second guessing the way the system deals with it. I'd be interested
to know your results.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: beaming in tuplets

[Urs Liska]

Am 12.04.2018 um 20:45 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:


Marco,

Got the 3’s on each group – see attached.



Rather than manually counting beamlets you can set beam subdivisions:

  \set subdivideBeams = ##t
  \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)

and remove the manual beams.

Additionally remove the tuplet bracket

  \omit TupletBracket

Finally you can tell LilyPond to automatically group consecutive tuplets:

  \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)

which removes the need to explicitly write so many \tuplet {} expressions.

The full file now reads:

\version "2.18.2"

\relative {

  % Activate beam subdivision
  \set subdivideBeams = ##t
  \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
  \omit TupletBracket

  % Automatically group tuplets
  \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)

  \clef bass
  \time 4/4
  \key bes \major
  r8

  \tuplet 3/2 {
    f16 \upbow -\markup {
  \line { \concat { \dynamic p } \italic { accel. e cresc. }}}
    f f ges16 ges16 ges16  aes16 aes16 aes16
    bes16 bes16 bes16  c16 c16 c16
    d16 d16 d16  ees16 ees16 ees16
  }
  |
  f1
}

HTH
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Re: \include command and local network folders

[foxfanfare]

SoundsFromSound wrote
> Yes, you're correct. It's a valid shared path (don't worry about the 
> Samba share stuff).
> 
> When I map drives for sharing like this, I have success using the 
> computer name vs. the IP, for what it's worth - even though both 
> *should* work for all applications...
> 
> (i.e. instead of
> 
> \\192.168.0.13\Public\test.ly
> 
> ...
> 
> *\\WorkstationTwo\Public\test.ly*

Actually, I also tested with the NAS name but it didn't worked either!
I thought then it might be password related, that's why I made all my test
from the Public folder. No success either.

It worked neither with the IP adress nor with the name of the device. Only
by mapping as suggested.

So my final guess is that frescobaldi doesn't support SMB!




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Re: Override music fonts for specific glyphs

[foxfanfare]

Noeck wrote
> Hi,
> 
> I also asked that some time ago. I can’t find the thread (I am
> notoriously bad at finding anything on the list archive).
> I use it for the clef.
> 
> This should work:

Oh thanks! I also searched the forum about this subject and yet cannot
succeed to find this thread!
I was stuck almost all the afternoon on this problem...

Too bad this isn't in the documentation because it is very useful!


Noeck wrote
>   % you can add more new names here if you need them

This I don't understand. The fonction can only take 2 arguments right? One
for the music, the other for the brace but you can create several separate
instances? For exemple:

  #(add-music-fonts fonts 'number1 "emmentaler" "emmentaler"
 feta-design-size-mapping (/ staff-height pt 20))

  #(add-music-fonts fonts 'number2 "profondo" "profondo"
 feta-design-size-mapping (/ staff-height pt 20))

and then you call:

[...].font-family = #'number1   or   [...].font-family = #'number2

Is this exactly how this function works?




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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[David Kastrup]

Kieren MacMillan  writes:

> Hi Werner,
>
>> This is the solution I will use, since David's solution doesn't really
>> work for me: As the attached image for this snippet shows,
>> the staff line gets enlarged horizontally to the left.  Using the
>> baloon stuff, the text properly sticks out.
>
> What about
>
>  \new Staff
>  {
>\tweak stencil
>  #(grob-transformer 'stencil
>(lambda (grob default)
>  (grob-interpret-markup grob
>   #{ \markup \with-dimensions-from "a" \column {
>\stencil #default
>\vspace #-2.5
>\center-align "This is a long, centered text" } #})))
>\time 2/4 c'1
>  }
>
> Hope that helps!

Uh, I think the balloon version is a whole lot more appropriate for that
use case and cleaner anyway.  I just couldn't be bothered looking up its
usage.

-- 
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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Werner,

> This is the solution I will use, since David's solution doesn't really
> work for me: As the attached image for this snippet shows,
> the staff line gets enlarged horizontally to the left.  Using the
> baloon stuff, the text properly sticks out.

What about

 \new Staff
 {
   \tweak stencil
 #(grob-transformer 'stencil
   (lambda (grob default)
 (grob-interpret-markup grob
  #{ \markup \with-dimensions-from "a" \column {
   \stencil #default
   \vspace #-2.5
   \center-align "This is a long, centered text" } #})))
   \time 2/4 c'1
 }

Hope that helps!
Kieren.


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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Werner LEMBERG]

David, Kieren,


thanks a lot for your snippets!  For didactical purposes I need
centered, explanatory text over a time signature.

> Here's a snippet showing how balloon text might be used.

This is the solution I will use, since David's solution doesn't really
work for me: As the attached image for this snippet shows,

  \new Staff
  {
\tweak stencil
  #(grob-transformer 'stencil
(lambda (grob default)
  (grob-interpret-markup grob
   #{ \markup \column {
\stencil #default
\vspace #-2.5
\center-align "This is a long, centered text" } #})))
\time 4/4  c'1
  }

the staff line gets enlarged horizontally to the left.  Using the
baloon stuff, the text properly sticks out.


Werner
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Re: \include command and local network folders

[Ben]

On 4/12/2018 3:13 PM, foxfanfare wrote:

David Wright wrote

I see no filenames. I only see //192.168.1.13/Public/test.ly which
looks like an incomplete URL, but lacking its protocol (like HTTP:).
I can only assume when you mapped the files to a drive letter,
you got the syntax correct. Would this reference help?

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365247(v=vs.85).aspx

Cheers,
David.

I don't understand David : \\192.168.0.13\Public\test.ly is a correct
Windows path.
I just changed the original "\" with the unix "/" for Frescobaldi to deal
with (//192.168.0.13/Public/test.ly)
I think it is named SMB right?




Yes, you're correct. It's a valid shared path (don't worry about the 
Samba share stuff).


When I map drives for sharing like this, I have success using the 
computer name vs. the IP, for what it's worth - even though both 
*should* work for all applications...


(i.e. instead of

\\192.168.0.13\Public\test.ly

...

*\\WorkstationTwo\Public\test.ly*

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Re: Override music fonts for specific glyphs

[Thomas Morley]

2018-04-12 21:23 GMT+02:00 Noeck :
> Hi,
>
> I also asked that some time ago. I can’t find the thread (I am
> notoriously bad at finding anything on the list archive).
> I use it for the clef.

Probably:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Feedback-Request-for-Music-Fonts-tt167354.html#none

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Re: Override music fonts for specific glyphs

[Noeck]

Hi,

I also asked that some time ago. I can’t find the thread (I am
notoriously bad at finding anything on the list archive).
I use it for the clef.

This should work:


\paper {
  #(add-music-fonts fonts 'myfont "gonville" "emmentaler"
 feta-design-size-mapping (/ staff-height pt 20))
  % the 1st font "gonville" is the music font
  % the 2nd font "emmentaler" is the brace font
  % you can add more new names here if you need them
}

\layout {
  \context {
\Staff
% here you can use whatever you have defined above
\override Clef.font-family = #'myfont
  }
}

{ a-"test" }


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Re: \include command and local network folders

[foxfanfare]

David Wright wrote
> I see no filenames. I only see //192.168.1.13/Public/test.ly which
> looks like an incomplete URL, but lacking its protocol (like HTTP:).
> I can only assume when you mapped the files to a drive letter,
> you got the syntax correct. Would this reference help?
> 
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365247(v=vs.85).aspx
> 
> Cheers,
> David.

I don't understand David : \\192.168.0.13\Public\test.ly is a correct
Windows path.
I just changed the original "\" with the unix "/" for Frescobaldi to deal
with (//192.168.0.13/Public/test.ly)
I think it is named SMB right?



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beaming in tuplets

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Marco,

 

Got the 3's on each group - see attached.

 

Mark

\version "2.19.80"

\relative c {
 
\clef bass
\time 4/4
\key bes \major

r8
\tuplet 3/2 8 {f16 \upbow -\markup { \line {\concat { \dynamic p } \italic { accel. e cresc. }}}
 f f 
  ges16 ges16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  ges16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
  aes16 aes16 aes16]
  bes16 bes16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  bes16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
  c16 c16 c16
  d16 d16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  d16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = 1
  ees16 ees16 ees16 }|
f1|
}
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RE: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Noeck

In the model presented each group of three 16ths had its own 3.
I see the "4" in your code for the tuplets.
>From that I can change my solution (see attached.)

Mark


-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
Noeck
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:28 AM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes



Am 12.04.2018 um 19:25 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:
> Do not know how to give each tuplet is own 3.

Was that a question?

\tuplet 3/2 4 { a8 b c a b c a b c a b c }

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\version "2.19.80"

\relative c {
 
\clef bass
\time 4/4
\key bes \major

r8
\tuplet 3/2 8 {f16 \upbow -\markup { \line {\concat { \dynamic p } \italic { accel. e cresc. }}}
 f f 
  ges16 ges16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  ges16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
  aes16 aes16 aes16]
  bes16 bes16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  bes16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
  c16 c16 c16
  d16 d16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  d16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = 1
  ees16 ees16 ees16 }|
f1|
}
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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Noeck]

Am 12.04.2018 um 19:25 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:
> Do not know how to give each tuplet is own 3.

Was that a question?

\tuplet 3/2 4 { a8 b c a b c a b c a b c }

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Re: \include command and local network folders

[David Wright]

On Thu 12 Apr 2018 at 09:32:40 (-0700), foxfanfare wrote:
> Giampaolo Orrigo wrote
> > I had success in doing it, but instead of using IP addresses I mapped the
> > remote drive to a logical drive. Maybe you want to try that. 
> > 
> > Giampaolo Orrigo, MBA
> 
> It worked! Thank you very much Giampaolo, problem solved! :)
> 
> I don't know if this "bug" come from Frescobaldi or LilyPond, but maybe this
> could be an issue (accessing files via IP) which could be interesting to
> solve?

I see no filenames. I only see //192.168.1.13/Public/test.ly which
looks like an incomplete URL, but lacking its protocol (like HTTP:).
I can only assume when you mapped the files to a drive letter,
you got the syntax correct. Would this reference help?

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365247(v=vs.85).aspx

Cheers,
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Override music fonts for specific glyphs

[foxfanfare]

Hi everyone,

I can't figure out very clearly how music fonts work in LilyPond. I
installed properly several fonts which I can use easily with the command:

\paper {
  #(define fonts
(set-global-fonts
 …
))

That's fine, but is it possible then to change the font for a specific
glyph? I tried this code:

\version "2.19.80"

\relative c' {
  \time 3/4
  
  \override Staff.TimeSignature.font-name = #"Times New Roman"
  c d e
  \override Score.Clef.font-size = #4
  \clef tenor
  f g a 
  \override Score.Clef.font-name = #"Gonville"
  \clef treble
  b c d
  \revert Score.Clef.font-name
  \revert Score.Clef.font-size
  e f g \break
  
  
 
 
 
  c,,-^ d-^ e-^
  \override Score.Script.font-size = #4
  f-^ g-^ a-^   
  \override Score.Script.font-name = #"beethoven"  
  b-^ c-^ d-^  
  \revert Score.Script.font-name
  \revert Score.Script.font-size  
  b-^ c-^ d-^  
}

\layout {
  ragged-right = ##t
}

***

but as you see, the font-name works only for the TimeSignature and neither
for the clef nor the script.

I am curently using the Profondo font, but I found an error in the dmarcato
glyph which (I don't know why) isn't the same than in Bravura and is
obviously curiously mirrored (see attachments). The bravura glyph is the one
used in Elaine Gould's book for this articulation (she also suggest thicker
font for the down marcato glyph!)

profondo-dmarcato.png
  

That's why I wanted to alterate the font for the scripts (or better, only
for the marcato glyph) and use for instance the default font.

Oh, and I try replacing the d-marcato glyph using FontForge but it is very
laborious since the numerous fonts size (and file) for the same font, I
couldn't achieve it easily and I'm not sure of this way of dealing with my
problem...



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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[Peter Toye]

I wasn't going to go into the gory details! Looking at the different editions 
on IMSPL is an interesting exercise, both on "first" editions but also into 
19th century editorial practices. And that's just on the LH part in one bar!

Peter

-
Thursday, April 12, 2018, 5:55:12 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote:

> On 12.04.2018 16:09, ptoye wrote:
>> the different
>> editions can be a nightmare. It's interesting that yours and mine both claim
>> to be "first".

> One of the reasons textual critique is so
> complicated in Chopin is that 
> generally two or three first editions were
> issued at roughly the same 
> time: one in Germany, one in France, and
> sometimes one in England as 
> well. Those were prepared and corrected
> independently of each other, so 
> they often present different versions of the
> piece and it’s not even 
> possible to tell which one is the ‘earlier’ or the ‘latter’ version.

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Re: Transposing figured bass

[Jérôme Plût]

Tertio Idus Apriles MMXVIII scripsit Jérôme Plût :
> So before I waste too much time on this: given the number of geniuses
> on this mailing-list, certainly one of you already did write the
> relevant Scheme code, am I right?

Given the lack of answer, I did write some Scheme code, which you will
find attached.

This defines a function \transposeFigures, used in the following way:

#(load "transpose-figures.scm")

oldfigures = \figures { ... } % put something in here
oldbass = \relative { ... }   % here too

\new FiguredBass { \transposeFigures c d \oldfigures \oldbass }

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Re: \include command and local network folders

[foxfanfare]

SoundsFromSound wrote
> On 4/12/2018 11:54 AM, foxfanfare wrote:
> So I am very sorry for the delay. I've recorded over 20 new 
> videos but am still editing many of them. I hope that my tutorials can 
> continue to help others discover the amazing capabilities (and 
> community) of LilyPond - so I will certainly be sharing them as soon as 
> possible starting next month as my new goal.

I'm glad to hear that! I'm looking forward to it :-)

I have to admit that I find the documentation of LilyPond really EXCELLENT.
Well organized, clear, and with a lot of exemples. I really enjoyed reading
the initiation guide and I'm still reading the notation book. And also
congratulations to the translators! Even most of the ly exemples are in
french which is very good for me ;-)

But the video tutorials bring something different and very interesting. It
is more accessible and could be watched in many circunstances (for instance,
I learnt the bases of this software, watching your videos while I was
cooking :-) I'm pretty sure this is the kind of work that shows to people
that it IS possible to work with this software, because let's be honnest: it
IS quite frightening at first sight...

Back in 2013, I tried to learn this software but was discouraged pretty
fast... Second try now!

And as you maybe noticed, I even use your Solarized Theme!

Best,
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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Simon Albrecht]

On 12.04.2018 11:24, Marco Bagolin wrote:

But final output is not the same of the image.


Often what LilyPond does is better than what other computer-engraved 
editions (even by major publishers) do.


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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[Simon Albrecht]

On 12.04.2018 16:09, ptoye wrote:

the different
editions can be a nightmare. It's interesting that yours and mine both claim
to be "first".


One of the reasons textual critique is so complicated in Chopin is that 
generally two or three first editions were issued at roughly the same 
time: one in Germany, one in France, and sometimes one in England as 
well. Those were prepared and corrected independently of each other, so 
they often present different versions of the piece and it’s not even 
possible to tell which one is the ‘earlier’ or the ‘latter’ version.


Best, Simon

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Re: \include command and local network folders

[Ben]

On 4/12/2018 12:32 PM, foxfanfare wrote:

Giampaolo Orrigo wrote

I had success in doing it, but instead of using IP addresses I mapped the
remote drive to a logical drive. Maybe you want to try that.

Giampaolo Orrigo, MBA

It worked! Thank you very much Giampaolo, problem solved! :)

I don't know if this "bug" come from Frescobaldi or LilyPond, but maybe this
could be an issue (accessing files via IP) which could be interesting to
solve?




I find that mapping always has better, more consistent results using any 
program, etc. vs. using IP


Glad you got it fixed :)
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Re: \include command and local network folders

[foxfanfare]

Giampaolo Orrigo wrote
> I had success in doing it, but instead of using IP addresses I mapped the
> remote drive to a logical drive. Maybe you want to try that. 
> 
> Giampaolo Orrigo, MBA

It worked! Thank you very much Giampaolo, problem solved! :)

I don't know if this "bug" come from Frescobaldi or LilyPond, but maybe this
could be an issue (accessing files via IP) which could be interesting to
solve?



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Re: \include command and local network folders

[Ben]

On 4/12/2018 11:54 AM, foxfanfare wrote:

Thanks for your answers.

In fact, I just found the problem isn't due to the \include command but more
in the original "ly" file that doesn't work (apparently) when it is placed
on my NAS! ... even if the directory of the NAS is added in Frescobaldi.


BTW, I take the opportunity since I met you on this forum, to thank you
personnaly for your excellent LilyPond video tutorials on YouTube! Your
videos conviced me to try this software! I hope you'll continue your serie.

Best,





Foxfanfare,

Thank you so much for the kind feedback on my videos. I am so happy to 
hear that people are finding them helpful. I really had hoped to be able 
to continue to post new ones regularly but I've struggled with several 
heavy life events over the past couple years, which derailed my best 
efforts. So I am very sorry for the delay. I've recorded over 20 new 
videos but am still editing many of them. I hope that my tutorials can 
continue to help others discover the amazing capabilities (and 
community) of LilyPond - so I will certainly be sharing them as soon as 
possible starting next month as my new goal.


When I think about it, the main reason I created the learning series was 
because when I found LilyPond, I was (happily) overwhelmed with 
excitement and bewilderment; I could not believe that a program like 
this was free and available to everyone. After coming from SCORE (and 
Finale), I wanted to show my appreciation to all the developers and to 
everyone who has helped LilyPond become what it is today - alongside 
it's outstandingly comprehensive documentation...by creating quality 
educational videos with all those who are interested.


Thank you to everyone who works so hard to keep LilyPond going strong.

And, again, thank you Foxfanfare for your kind words.

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Re: \include command and local network folders

[Giampaolo Orrigo]

I had success in doing it, but instead of using IP addresses I mapped the 
remote drive to a logical drive. Maybe you want to try that. 

Giampaolo Orrigo, MBA

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:54, foxfanfare  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your answers.
> 
> In fact, I just found the problem isn't due to the \include command but more
> in the original "ly" file that doesn't work (apparently) when it is placed
> on my NAS! ... even if the directory of the NAS is added in Frescobaldi.
> 
> For exemple: 
> 1. I generate in Frescobaldi a choir template
> 2. I save it on the NAS folder
> 3. I can save the file, but when I try to engrave, I get this error message:
> 
>  
> 
> That's a bit problematic since I use different computers at home and I like
> to centralize my work and documents... Would be great if someone has the
> time to make the same test than me on Windows and tell us if the problem is
> mine or in Frescobaldi!
> 
> 
> 
> SoundsFromSound wrote
>> Did you save the file first? Usually on Windows when you engrave a score
>> without saving it first Frescobaldi will print that to your log like in
>> your first PNG file (i.e. Local / AppData / TEMP etc)
>> 
>> Also, it looks like Frescobaldi can't find the file, rather than LilyPond.
>> Is the path setup correct?
> 
> The file is saved. I even rebooted Frescobaldi but the ly file on the NAS
> won't engrave!
> 
> BTW, I take the opportunity since I met you on this forum, to thank you
> personnaly for your excellent LilyPond video tutorials on YouTube! Your
> videos conviced me to try this software! I hope you'll continue your serie.
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: \include command and local network folders

[foxfanfare]

Thanks for your answers.

In fact, I just found the problem isn't due to the \include command but more
in the original "ly" file that doesn't work (apparently) when it is placed
on my NAS! ... even if the directory of the NAS is added in Frescobaldi.

For exemple: 
1. I generate in Frescobaldi a choir template
2. I save it on the NAS folder
3. I can save the file, but when I try to engrave, I get this error message:

 

That's a bit problematic since I use different computers at home and I like
to centralize my work and documents... Would be great if someone has the
time to make the same test than me on Windows and tell us if the problem is
mine or in Frescobaldi!



 SoundsFromSound wrote
> Did you save the file first? Usually on Windows when you engrave a score
> without saving it first Frescobaldi will print that to your log like in
> your first PNG file (i.e. Local / AppData / TEMP etc)
> 
> Also, it looks like Frescobaldi can't find the file, rather than LilyPond.
> Is the path setup correct?

The file is saved. I even rebooted Frescobaldi but the ly file on the NAS
won't engrave!

BTW, I take the opportunity since I met you on this forum, to thank you
personnaly for your excellent LilyPond video tutorials on YouTube! Your
videos conviced me to try this software! I hope you'll continue your serie.

Best,




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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi David,

> Huh.  It's in the context of
> 
> \new Voice \with { ... }
> {
>   ...
> }
> 
> I don't think we have examples along the lines
> 
> \new Score \with { ... }
> {
>   ...
> }
> 
> but if that's where the ad-hoc engraver is best placed, maybe we should?

Another alternative would be to leave it where it is in the example, and then 
note (e.g., below) that the best practice is to add it at the Score level. Each 
presentation has its potential pitfalls… I'm on the fence about which is better.

Thanks,
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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[David Kastrup]

Kieren MacMillan  writes:

> Hi David,
>
>> Time signatures are engraved at Staff context.  I'd likely suggest to
>> put Balloon_engraver at Score level anyway: no point in having more than
>> one of them active, is there?
>
> I was thinking that myself… but the docs explicitly add it at the
> Voice level
> (cf. 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/outside-the-staff#balloon-help).
>
> Should that section be modified (or at least annotated/commented) to
> reflect the best practice?

Huh.  It's in the context of

\new Voice \with { ... }
{
   ...
}

I don't think we have examples along the lines

\new Score \with { ... }
{
   ...
}

but if that's where the ad-hoc engraver is best placed, maybe we should?

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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Ben]

On 4/12/2018 10:35 AM, David Kastrup wrote:

Ben  writes:


On 4/12/2018 8:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote:

Werner LEMBERG  writes:


Folks,


is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature?


But can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon
mechanisms?



Just a quick question,

David why does your code seem to not work properly when you add the
numeric time signature command before the 4/4 time?
The markup disappears in that case...on my end at least.

Thank you!

%
\version "2.19.80"

\new Staff
{
   \tweak stencil
   #(grob-transformer 'stencil (lambda (grob default)
     (grob-interpret-markup grob
  #{ \markup \column { \stencil #default
  \vspace #-2
  \small \with-color #red "Hi!"
    } #})))
   \numericTimeSignature \time 4/4  c'1
}

Because now you are tweaking the \numericTimeSignature command instead
of the \time command?



My eyes today, geesh. Yup :) That sure was what I was doing - thanks!
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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi all,

Here's a snippet showing how balloon text might be used.

Hope it helps!
Kieren.

%%%  SNIPPET BEGINS
\version "2.19.80"

\layout {
  \context {
\Score
\consists "Balloon_engraver"
\override BalloonTextItem.annotation-balloon = ##f
\override BalloonTextItem.annotation-line = ##f
\override BalloonTextItem.font-size = #-2
\override BalloonTextItem.font-series = #'bold
  }
}

stuff = {
  \balloonGrobText #'TimeSignature #'(0 . 0.5) \markup "test" \time 2/4 s2
}

\score { \stuff }
%%%  SNIPPET ENDS


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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi David,

> Time signatures are engraved at Staff context.  I'd likely suggest to
> put Balloon_engraver at Score level anyway: no point in having more than
> one of them active, is there?

I was thinking that myself… but the docs explicitly add it at the Voice level 
(cf. 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/outside-the-staff#balloon-help).

Should that section be modified (or at least annotated/commented) to reflect 
the best practice?

Cheers,
Kieren.


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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[David Kastrup]

Ben  writes:

> On 4/12/2018 8:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
>> Werner LEMBERG  writes:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>> is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature?
>>
>>
>> But can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon
>> mechanisms?
>>
>>
>
> Just a quick question,
>
> David why does your code seem to not work properly when you add the
> numeric time signature command before the 4/4 time?
> The markup disappears in that case...on my end at least.
>
> Thank you!
>
> %
> \version "2.19.80"
>
> \new Staff
> {
>   \tweak stencil
>   #(grob-transformer 'stencil (lambda (grob default)
>     (grob-interpret-markup grob
>  #{ \markup \column { \stencil #default
>  \vspace #-2
>  \small \with-color #red "Hi!"
>    } #})))
>   \numericTimeSignature \time 4/4  c'1
> }

Because now you are tweaking the \numericTimeSignature command instead
of the \time command?

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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[David Kastrup]

Kieren MacMillan  writes:

> Hi David,
>
>> can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon mechanisms?
>
> I just tried to — in order to give the OP an example — but my attempt didn’t 
> work:
>
> %%%  SNIPPET BEGINS
> \version "2.19.80"
>
> \layout {
>   \context {
> \Voice
> \consists "Balloon_engraver"
>   }
> }
>
> stuff = {
>   \balloonGrobText #'TimeSignature #'(1 . 0) \markup "test" \time 2/4 s2
> }
>
> \score { \stuff }
> %%%  SNIPPET ENDS
>
> No error, though… What did I do wrong? (Note: using \new Voice \stuff also 
> didn’t work as expected.)

Time signatures are engraved at Staff context.  I'd likely suggest to
put Balloon_engraver at Score level anyway: no point in having more than
one of them active, is there?  Have not used this myself though.

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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Ben]

On 4/12/2018 8:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote:

Werner LEMBERG  writes:


Folks,


is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature?



But can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon
mechanisms?




Just a quick question,

David why does your code seem to not work properly when you add the 
numeric time signature command before the 4/4 time?

The markup disappears in that case...on my end at least.

Thank you!

%
\version "2.19.80"

\new Staff
{
  \tweak stencil
  #(grob-transformer 'stencil (lambda (grob default)
    (grob-interpret-markup grob
 #{ \markup \column { \stencil #default
 \vspace #-2
 \small \with-color #red "Hi!"
   } #})))
  \numericTimeSignature \time 4/4  c'1
}
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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi David,

> can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon mechanisms?

I just tried to — in order to give the OP an example — but my attempt didn’t 
work:

%%%  SNIPPET BEGINS
\version "2.19.80"

\layout {
  \context {
\Voice
\consists "Balloon_engraver"
  }
}

stuff = {
  \balloonGrobText #'TimeSignature #'(1 . 0) \markup "test" \time 2/4 s2
}

\score { \stuff }
%%%  SNIPPET ENDS

No error, though… What did I do wrong? (Note: using \new Voice \stuff also 
didn’t work as expected.)

Thanks,
Kieren.


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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[ptoye]

Hi Knute, 

Ah well, another variant! I'm not a Chopin scholar but the different
editions can be a nightmare. It's interesting that yours and mine both claim
to be "first". Good luck in sorting them out.

But my comment to Andrew still holds - use the pedal to hold onto the low C
for the first crotchet, and then change it to play the E and lose the C.

Peter


Knute Snortum wrote
> I'm using CFEO (Chopin's First Editions Online)
> 
> http://www.chopinonline.ac.uk/cfeo/browse/pageview/73671/
> 
> This matches (nearly) my Schirmer's Edition.
> 
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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Marco Bagolin]

Ty Meyn,
I solved the second question using your proposal of code.

I did not solved the first question.
Here following my working example:

\version "2.18.2"

 \relative c'

{

\time 4/4

\key bes \major

\tuplet 3/2 { d8:16 -\markup { \tiny \italic { rep. notes opt. }} \f f8:16
bes8:16 } d4 \tuplet 3/2 { c,8:16 ees?8:16 aes8:16 } c4|

}
But final output is not the same of the imagine.


Il giorno gio 12 apr 2018 alle 08:30 Malte Meyn  ha
scritto:

>
>
> Am 12.04.2018 um 07:13 schrieb Marco Bagolin:
> > Hi all,
> > please someone can help me?
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> please always give minimal *working* examples. Your code doesn’t compile.
>
> Also it would be better to write simple text emails instead of HTML,
> because then it’s easier to copy the code and have it nicely formatted.
>
> For your second question:
>
> \set Timing.subdivideBeams = ##t
> \set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
>
> For your first question:
>
> You could try something like
>
> \override StemTremolo.slope = #0.5
>
> but I’d recommend not to try to copy the notation you posted exactly
> because the tremolo beams should be near the beams (see also Gould,
> “Behind Bars”).
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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Marco Bagolin]

I am trying, but I don't find the correct sintax...


Il giorno gio 12 apr 2018 alle 14:56 Malte Meyn  ha
scritto:

>
>
> Am 12.04.2018 um 11:24 schrieb Marco Bagolin:
> > I solved the second question using your proposal of code.
> >
> > I did not solved the first question.
>
> Have you tried overriding the slope?
>
> And have you read my recommendation? Probably it would be possible to
> bring the StemTremolos nearer to the note heads but it would be
> complicated and it would be against common notation practice.
>
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Re: \include command and local network folders

[Knute Snortum]

Try putting the style sheets files into a separate folder, e.g.
C:\Users\RMY~1\LilyPond\StyleSheets

Then put that path into Frescobaldi's Include window.  Edit -> Preferences
-> LilyPond Preferences

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 6:10 AM, foxfanfare  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I want to use the /include command to separate my
> style sheet, as suggested by some of you. I made two files : "test.ly"
> which
> contains the music, and "configuration.ily" for my house-style.
>
> The files are in the same folder and I can get it easily to work on my
> local
> computer drive.
>
> But the problem is when I try to launch the files from my local network
> drive (which is very convenient for me in this kind of work).
>
> Here's the error message I get when I include the "configuration.ily" :
>
> 
>
> Or with the full network path:
>
> 
>
> That's odd, I don't understand why but however Lilypond seems to find my
> file! :
>
> 
>
> Would someone know what seems to be the problem with network path?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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Re: \include command and local network folders

[Ben]

On 4/12/2018 9:10 AM, foxfanfare wrote:

Hi everyone,

I want to use the /include command to separate my
style sheet, as suggested by some of you. I made two files : "test.ly" which
contains the music, and "configuration.ily" for my house-style.

The files are in the same folder and I can get it easily to work on my local
computer drive.

But the problem is when I try to launch the files from my local network
drive (which is very convenient for me in this kind of work).

Here's the error message I get when I include the "configuration.ily" :



Or with the full network path:



That's odd, I don't understand why but however Lilypond seems to find my
file! :



Would someone know what seems to be the problem with network path?

Thanks!



Did you save the file first? Usually on Windows when you engrave a score 
without saving it first Frescobaldi will print that to your log like in 
your first PNG file (i.e. Local / AppData / TEMP etc)


Also, it looks like Frescobaldi can't find the file, rather than 
LilyPond. Is the path setup correct?
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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Malte Meyn]

Am 12.04.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Marco Bagolin:

I am trying, but I don't find the correct sintax...


Just add the \override command somewhere at the start of music.

\version "2.18.2"

\relative c'
{
  \override StemTremolo.slope = 0.5
  \time 4/4
  \key bes \major
  \tuplet 3/2 { d8:16 -\markup { \tiny \italic { rep. notes opt. }} \f 
f8:16 bes8:16 } d4 \tuplet 3/2 { c,8:16 ees?8:16 aes8:16 } c4|

}

Il giorno gio 12 apr 2018 alle 14:56 Malte Meyn > ha scritto:




Am 12.04.2018 um 11:24 schrieb Marco Bagolin:
 > I solved the second question using your proposal of code.
 >
 > I did not solved the first question.

Have you tried overriding the slope?

And have you read my recommendation? Probably it would be possible to
bring the StemTremolos nearer to the note heads but it would be
complicated and it would be against common notation practice.



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Re: \include command and local network folders

[Malte Meyn]

Am 12.04.2018 um 15:10 schrieb foxfanfare:

That's odd, I don't understand why but however Lilypond seems to find my
file! :




That’s not LilyPond but Frescobaldi finding the file …

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Re: First steps in Lilypond

[foxfanfare]

Sorry.
Here it is: 
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/include-command-and-local-network-folders-td211666.html

  
Thx



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\include command and local network folders

[foxfanfare]

Hi everyone,

I want to use the /include command to separate my
style sheet, as suggested by some of you. I made two files : "test.ly" which
contains the music, and "configuration.ily" for my house-style.

The files are in the same folder and I can get it easily to work on my local
computer drive.

But the problem is when I try to launch the files from my local network
drive (which is very convenient for me in this kind of work).

Here's the error message I get when I include the "configuration.ily" :



Or with the full network path:



That's odd, I don't understand why but however Lilypond seems to find my
file! :



Would someone know what seems to be the problem with network path?

Thanks! 



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Re: tag and default

[Gianmaria Lari]

On 12 April 2018 at 14:16, David Kastrup  wrote:

> Gianmaria Lari  writes:
>
> > On 12 April 2018 at 11:42, David Kastrup  wrote:
> >>
> >> What are you trying to do?  Basically you are asking whether you can
> >> make LilyPond do something different without telling it to make
> >> something different.
> >>
> >> You will need to provide more details of just what you want to be
> >> providing via which channels and what not in order to have people figure
> >> out what would better meet your requirement than just writing
> >> \keepWithTag when you want it.
> >
> >
> > 1) If it seemed I was complaining about lilypond behavior my
> > apologies, not at all.
>
> It did not seem like that to me and LilyPond won't heed complaints
> anyway.
>
> > 2) I paid much attention writing my question but, again my apologies,
> > it was not clear.
>
> The question was clear but it was not clear which leap of logic was to
> be assumed for answering it.
>
> > Let me try again with a different example.
> >
> > Sometimes I have an excerpt of music that occurs multiple time in a
> piece.
> > It occurs identically in many place except at the end of the score where
> > the last note of the excerpt should be a pause (it is just an example).
> > Without tag I would do something like this:
> >
> > excerpt  = {a b c' d'}
> > excerptB = {a b c' r}
> > {
> >  %  some music
> >  \excerpt
> >
> >  %  some music
> >  \excerpt
> >
> >  %  some music
> >  \excerptB
> > }
> >
> >
> > If I want to write the same thing with tag I would write:
> >
> > \version "2.19.81"
> > excerpt  = {
> >   a b c'
> > \tag #'withd d'
> > \tag #'withr r
> > }
> >
> > {
> >  %  some music
> >  \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt
> >
> >  %  some music
> >  \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt
> >
> >  %  some music
> >  \keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
> > }
> >
> >
> > This is ok.
> >
> > Is there any way to obtain the same thing writing:
> >
> > {
> >  %  some music
> > \excerpt
> >
> >  %  some music
> >  \excerpt
> >
> >  %  some music
> >  \keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
> > }
>
> You probably would not stand for
>
> {
>   \keepWithTag #'withd {
>  %  some music
>  \excerpt
>
>  %  some music
>  \excerpt
>  %  some music
>}
>\keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
> }
>
> so your question amounts to some stuff autosuiciding.  That's not really
> something the tag system will do, but you may want to look at \pushToTag
> and \appendToTag for some option of adding material only in specific
> cases.
>

Ok. I had seen the \pushToTag and \appendToTag example in the manual. But I
didn't understand the example. They are too complex for me.

Anyway, I found a nice escamotage that probably it solves my problem. I put
here in case other need.

This was the original code:

\version "2.19.81"
excerpt  = {
  a b c'
\tag #'withd d'
\tag #'withr r
}

{
 \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt
 \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt
 \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt
 \keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
}

And this is my solution:

\version "2.19.81"
music = { a b c' \tag #'lastnote d'}

{
  \music
  \music
  \music
  \removeWithTag #'lastnote \music r
}


Thank anyway!
g.
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Re: Download for 2.19.81

[Malte Meyn]

Am 12.04.2018 um 13:59 schrieb Andrew Bernard:

Why is 2.19.81 not in:

http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-64/

Highest rev is 2.19.80. 81 seems to come and go.

Andrew


That’s a known problem, have a look at 
http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/linux-64/ instead.


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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Malte Meyn]

Am 12.04.2018 um 11:24 schrieb Marco Bagolin:

I solved the second question using your proposal of code.

I did not solved the first question.


Have you tried overriding the slope?

And have you read my recommendation? Probably it would be possible to 
bring the StemTremolos nearer to the note heads but it would be 
complicated and it would be against common notation practice.


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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[Knute Snortum]

I'm using CFEO (Chopin's First Editions Online)

http://www.chopinonline.ac.uk/cfeo/browse/pageview/73671/

This matches (nearly) my Schirmer's Edition.

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:02 AM, ptoye  wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> I don't think it's odd notation as the G and B flat would be held by the
> fingers while the C and F are lost by the pedal change after the first
> crotchet. The A is a quaver to get your hand out of the way of the right
> hand figurations.
>
> But I'm not sure that this is what Chopin actually wrote. The 1st edition
> on
> petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usimg/9/95/IMSLP85374-PMLP02344-Chopin_Op_28_
> Breitkopf_6088_first.pdf
> doesn't have the F in that stave (see screenshot below). This comment
> doesn't help for the C of course. What edition are you using, Knute?
>
>  IMSLP85374-PMLP02344-Chopin_Op_28_Breitkopf_6088_first_pdf.png>
>
> Peter
>
> Andrew Bernard wrote
> > Odd music. Looks like the pedal is held down, which means the crotchets
> > are
> > going to sound as long as the minims, unless I am missing something. What
> > is the work in question? Do you need to preserve this odd notation?
> >
> > Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: attaching markup to time signature

[David Kastrup]

Werner LEMBERG  writes:

> Folks,
>
>
> is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature?

\new Staff
{
  \tweak stencil
  #(grob-transformer 'stencil (lambda (grob default)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
 #{ \markup \column { \stencil #default
 \vspace #-2
 \small \with-color #red "Hi!"
			   } #})))
  \time 4/4  c'1
}
  
But can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon
mechanisms?

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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[Knute Snortum]

It sure does, Kieren.  Thanks a lot.  One more tool in my toolbelt.

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 4:24 AM, Kieren MacMillan <
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Hi Knute,
>
> > I would love some help with a problem I'm having getting a chord to have
> two quarter-notes and two half-notes.  Here is how the measure should look.
> >
> > 
>
> \version "2.19.80"
> \language "english"
>
> { \clef treble \key f \major \stemDown  \tweak duration-log #1 bf' f''>4\arpeggio }
>
> Hope this helps!
> Kieren.
> 
>
> Kieren MacMillan, composer
> ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
> ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
>
>
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Re: tag and default

[David Kastrup]

Gianmaria Lari  writes:

> On 12 April 2018 at 11:42, David Kastrup  wrote:
>>
>> What are you trying to do?  Basically you are asking whether you can
>> make LilyPond do something different without telling it to make
>> something different.
>>
>> You will need to provide more details of just what you want to be
>> providing via which channels and what not in order to have people figure
>> out what would better meet your requirement than just writing
>> \keepWithTag when you want it.
>
>
> 1) If it seemed I was complaining about lilypond behavior my
> apologies, not at all.

It did not seem like that to me and LilyPond won't heed complaints
anyway.

> 2) I paid much attention writing my question but, again my apologies,
> it was not clear.

The question was clear but it was not clear which leap of logic was to
be assumed for answering it.

> Let me try again with a different example.
>
> Sometimes I have an excerpt of music that occurs multiple time in a piece.
> It occurs identically in many place except at the end of the score where
> the last note of the excerpt should be a pause (it is just an example).
> Without tag I would do something like this:
>
> excerpt  = {a b c' d'}
> excerptB = {a b c' r}
> {
>  %  some music
>  \excerpt
>
>  %  some music
>  \excerpt
>
>  %  some music
>  \excerptB
> }
>
>
> If I want to write the same thing with tag I would write:
>
> \version "2.19.81"
> excerpt  = {
>   a b c'
> \tag #'withd d'
> \tag #'withr r
> }
>
> {
>  %  some music
>  \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt
>
>  %  some music
>  \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt
>
>  %  some music
>  \keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
> }
>
>
> This is ok.
>
> Is there any way to obtain the same thing writing:
>
> {
>  %  some music
> \excerpt
>
>  %  some music
>  \excerpt
>
>  %  some music
>  \keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
> }

You probably would not stand for

{
  \keepWithTag #'withd {
 %  some music
 \excerpt
   
 %  some music
 \excerpt
 %  some music
   }
   \keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
}

so your question amounts to some stuff autosuiciding.  That's not really
something the tag system will do, but you may want to look at \pushToTag
and \appendToTag for some option of adding material only in specific
cases.

-- 
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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[ptoye]

Hi Andrew, 

I don't think it's odd notation as the G and B flat would be held by the
fingers while the C and F are lost by the pedal change after the first
crotchet. The A is a quaver to get your hand out of the way of the right
hand figurations.

But I'm not sure that this is what Chopin actually wrote. The 1st edition on
petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usimg/9/95/IMSLP85374-PMLP02344-Chopin_Op_28_Breitkopf_6088_first.pdf
doesn't have the F in that stave (see screenshot below). This comment
doesn't help for the C of course. What edition are you using, Knute?


 

Peter

Andrew Bernard wrote
> Odd music. Looks like the pedal is held down, which means the crotchets
> are
> going to sound as long as the minims, unless I am missing something. What
> is the work in question? Do you need to preserve this odd notation?
> 
> Andrew





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Download for 2.19.81

[Andrew Bernard]

Why is 2.19.81 not in:

http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-64/

Highest rev is 2.19.80. 81 seems to come and go.

Andrew
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Re: First steps in Lilypond

[Simon Albrecht]

On 12.04.2018 11:13, foxfanfare wrote:

I have a new question.


Then please start a new thread with appropriate subject line.

Best, Simon

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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[Andrew Bernard]

Ah, Chopin. I still think it is odd notation. Isn't it?

Andrew


On 12 April 2018 at 21:24, Kieren MacMillan 
wrote:

>
> > 
>
>
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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[Andrew Bernard]

Hi Knute,

Odd music. Looks like the pedal is held down, which means the crotchets are
going to sound as long as the minims, unless I am missing something. What
is the work in question? Do you need to preserve this odd notation?

Andrew


On 12 April 2018 at 21:17, Knute Snortum  wrote:

>
>
> I would love some help with a problem I'm having getting a chord to have
> two quarter-notes and two half-notes.  Here is how the measure should look.
>
>
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Re: Merging half-note chord into a quarter-note chord

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Knute,

> I would love some help with a problem I'm having getting a chord to have two 
> quarter-notes and two half-notes.  Here is how the measure should look.
> 
> 

\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"

{ \clef treble \key f \major \stemDown 4\arpeggio }

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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Re: tag and default

[Gianmaria Lari]

On 12 April 2018 at 11:42, David Kastrup  wrote:

> Gianmaria Lari  writes:
>
> > This code ...
> >
> > \version "2.19.81"
> > var = {
> >   \tag #'mya {a}
> >   \tag #'myb {b}
> > }
> >
> > { \keepWithTag #'mya \var }
> > { \keepWithTag #'myb \var }
> > { \var}
> >
> > creates three scores:
> >
> > 1) a
> > 2) b
> > 3) a b
> >
> > In the third case, where no \keepWithTag is specified, lilypond returns
> all
> > elements (a and b).
> >
> > Is there any way to make lilypond returning only one element (a sort of
> > default element) and not all the elements IF I don't specify any
> > \keepWithTag?
>
> What are you trying to do?  Basically you are asking whether you can
> make LilyPond do something different without telling it to make
> something different.
>
> You will need to provide more details of just what you want to be
> providing via which channels and what not in order to have people figure
> out what would better meet your requirement than just writing
> \keepWithTag when you want it.


1) If it seemed I was complaining about lilypond behavior my apologies, not
at all.
2) I paid much attention writing my question but, again my apologies, it
was not clear.

Let me try again with a different example.

Sometimes I have an excerpt of music that occurs multiple time in a piece.
It occurs identically in many place except at the end of the score where
the last note of the excerpt should be a pause (it is just an example).
Without tag I would do something like this:

excerpt  = {a b c' d'}
excerptB = {a b c' r}
{
 %  some music
 \excerpt

 %  some music
 \excerpt

 %  some music
 \excerptB
}


If I want to write the same thing with tag I would write:

\version "2.19.81"
excerpt  = {
  a b c'
\tag #'withd d'
\tag #'withr r
}

{
 %  some music
 \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt

 %  some music
 \keepWithTag #'withd \excerpt

 %  some music
 \keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
}


This is ok.

Is there any way to obtain the same thing writing:

{
 %  some music
\excerpt

 %  some music
 \excerpt

 %  some music
 \keepWithTag #'withr \excerpt
}


Thank you, g.
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attaching markup to time signature

[Werner LEMBERG]

Folks,


is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature?


Werner

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Re: tag and default

[David Kastrup]

Gianmaria Lari  writes:

> This code ...
>
> \version "2.19.81"
> var = {
>   \tag #'mya {a}
>   \tag #'myb {b}
> }
>
> { \keepWithTag #'mya \var }
> { \keepWithTag #'myb \var }
> { \var}
>
> creates three scores:
>
> 1) a
> 2) b
> 3) a b
>
> In the third case, where no \keepWithTag is specified, lilypond returns all
> elements (a and b).
>
> Is there any way to make lilypond returning only one element (a sort of
> default element) and not all the elements IF I don't specify any
> \keepWithTag?

What are you trying to do?  Basically you are asking whether you can
make LilyPond do something different without telling it to make
something different.

You will need to provide more details of just what you want to be
providing via which channels and what not in order to have people figure
out what would better meet your requirement than just writing
\keepWithTag when you want it.

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tag and default

[Gianmaria Lari]

This code ...

\version "2.19.81"
var = {
  \tag #'mya {a}
  \tag #'myb {b}
}

{ \keepWithTag #'mya \var }
{ \keepWithTag #'myb \var }
{ \var}

creates three scores:

1) a
2) b
3) a b

In the third case, where no \keepWithTag is specified, lilypond returns all
elements (a and b).

Is there any way to make lilypond returning only one element (a sort of
default element) and not all the elements IF I don't specify any
\keepWithTag?

Thank you, g.
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Re: Re: Scordatura question

[Mats Bengtsson]

On 2018-04-11 23:17, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote:

Hello all,

Thanks for the pointers and explanations.

I thought there might be a specific way to indicate a scordatura, and 
it turns out there are many possible ways, including providing a 
second scores with the actual pitches or a staff fragment showing the 
various string pitches vertically:


I can add some examples from around 1900: In Mahler's 4th symphony, 2nd 
movement, all strings of the solo violin are tuned one tone up, and the 
notation corresponds to the fingering. In the solo violin part for 
Saint-Saëns' Dance Macabre, the top string is down tuned to e flat, 
again the notation corresponds to how you play (though you only play an 
open string on the top string). For me as a violinist, it would be more 
or less impossible to play the music if the notation corresponded to the 
sound instead of the fingering (not the least for Biber), but there are 
certainly cases where it would have helped to have a parallel line of 
sounding notation, to assist in deciphering the music. The situation may 
be different for guitar or double base, where it's not that uncommon to 
at least tune down the lowest string to extend the range of the instrument.


   /Mats

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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Malte Meyn]

Am 12.04.2018 um 07:13 schrieb Marco Bagolin:

Hi all,
please someone can help me?


Hi Mark,

please always give minimal *working* examples. Your code doesn’t compile.

Also it would be better to write simple text emails instead of HTML, 
because then it’s easier to copy the code and have it nicely formatted.


For your second question:

\set Timing.subdivideBeams = ##t
\set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)

For your first question:

You could try something like

\override StemTremolo.slope = #0.5

but I’d recommend not to try to copy the notation you posted exactly 
because the tremolo beams should be near the beams (see also Gould, 
“Behind Bars”).


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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

[Jacques Menu Muzhic]

Hello Marco,

None of your examples compile with 2.19.80, which complains about spurious 
expression in \score messages.

How did you copy/paste the code into your post?

You can also attach the files to the message.

JM

> Le 12 avr. 2018 à 07:13, Marco Bagolin  a écrit :
> 
> Hi all,
> please someone can help me?
> Thank you in advance
> 1. I did not find a solution to reproduce the following tremolo notes in 
> tuplets:
> 
> 
> My best solution is the following… but beam slash position and direction is 
> not as in the example:
> 
>  
> 
> \version "2.18.2"
> 
>  
> 
> \score {
> 
>  
> 
> \time 4/4
> 
> \key bes \major
> 
>  
> 
> \tuplet 3/2 { d8:16 -\markup { \tiny \italic { rep. notes 
> opt. }} \f f8:16 bes:16 } \tuplet 3/2 { c8:16 ees?8:16 aes8:16 } c4|
> 
> }
> 
>  
> 
> 2. I did not find a solution to reproduce the following group od notes:
> 
> 
> 
> My best solution is the following, but is not as in the example:
> 
>  
> 
> \version "2.18.2"
> 
>  
> 
> \score {
> 
>  
> 
> \clef bass
> 
> \time 4/4
> 
> \key bes \major
> 
>  
> 
> r8
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { f16 \upbow -\markup { \line { 
> \concat { \dynamic p } \italic { accel. e cresc. }}} f f }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { ges16[ ges16 ges16] }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { aes16[ aes16 aes16] }
> 
>  
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { bes16[ bes16 bes16] }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { c16[ c16 c16] }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { d16[ d16 d16] }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { ees16[ ees16 ees16] }|
> 
> f1|
> 
> }
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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