Re: Intervals enharmony question

Then there is always "what is more out of tune than two flutes? One flute" Shane B. On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Paul Scott wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:27:10PM +0200, Hans Åberg wrote: >> >> > On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:23, Torsten Hämmerle

Re: Intervals enharmony question

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:27:10PM +0200, Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:23, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > > > > Hans Åberg-2 wrote > >> I play the flute, and I checked with one of my teachers who sits on one of > >> the operas here. > > > > Hi Hans, > > >

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On Tue 01 May 2018 at 00:15:24 (+0200), David Kastrup wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > AFAICT the important exception that was introduced with naked > > durations was that c 4 notates a single note whereas c4 4 notates two. > > There was no "exception" introduced. c

Re: Intervals enharmony question

On 1 May 2018 at 06:27, Hans Åberg wrote: > > > Flutes have a very definite pitch, making it hard to play in unison, > unlike strings then. It is mentioned in Blatter's book on orchestration. > > Flutes can adjust their pitch enough to tune well. I'm mainly a singer, but when

Re: Intervals enharmony question

On 30/04/18 22:14, Hans Åberg wrote: > >> On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:50, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg writes: >> On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:23, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: Hans Åberg-2 wrote > I play the flute, and

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David Wright writes: > AFAICT the important exception that was introduced with naked > durations was that c 4 notates a single note whereas c4 4 notates two. There was no "exception" introduced. c 4 always indicated a single note and c4 4 previously was invalid input.

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On Fri 27 Apr 2018 at 22:56:31 (+0200), Gianmaria Lari wrote: > On 27 April 2018 at 15:44, David Wright wrote: > > > [...] > > Well, I don't know how the decision was arrived at, but my own view is > > that it's the correct one. The duration-only notation is aimed at >

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 23:46, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > > Hans Åberg-2 wrote >> I suspect the least pitch-flexible instrument is the oboe, as one >> typically uses that for a tuning reference pitch. > > Yep, and just to keep up tradition, it's the oboe player who

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Hans Åberg-2 wrote > I suspect the least pitch-flexible instrument is the oboe, as one > typically uses that for a tuning reference pitch. Yep, and just to keep up tradition, it's the oboe player who operates the digital tuning device. ;D Modern times... Torsten -- Sent from:

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 23:14, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > > Hans Åberg-2 wrote >> Flutes have a very definite pitch, making it hard to play in unison, >> unlike strings then. > > Thank you, that's a good explanation. So it is the incompetent composer one should go

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Torsten Hämmerle writes: > Hans Åberg-2 wrote >> Flutes have a very definite pitch, making it hard to play in unison, >> unlike strings then. > > Thank you, that's a good explanation. > Comparing the harmonic spectra of flutes and violins or when trying to > capture the

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:50, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:23, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: >>> >>> Hans Åberg-2 wrote I play the flute, and I checked with one of my teachers who sits on one

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Hans Åberg-2 wrote > Flutes have a very definite pitch, making it hard to play in unison, > unlike strings then. Thank you, that's a good explanation. Comparing the harmonic spectra of flutes and violins or when trying to capture the sound characteristics using a synthesizer, this is what usually

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

2018-04-30 12:51 GMT+02:00 Torsten Hämmerle : > Hi Robert, > > How about simply flipping the stacking direction? > >\override BassFigureAlignment.stacking-dir = #UP > > That way, the bass figures will be piled up from bottom to top. > Caveat: the first figure entered

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Hans Åberg writes: >> On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:23, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: >> >> Hans Åberg-2 wrote >>> I play the flute, and I checked with one of my teachers who sits on one of >>> the operas here. >> >> Hi Hans, >> >> It's funny that you mention

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:23, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > > Hans Åberg-2 wrote >> I play the flute, and I checked with one of my teachers who sits on one of >> the operas here. > > Hi Hans, > > It's funny that you mention the flute of all instruments. It reminds me of >

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Hans Åberg-2 wrote > I play the flute, and I checked with one of my teachers who sits on one of > the operas here. Hi Hans, It's funny that you mention the flute of all instruments. It reminds me of the old joke "How do you get two flute players to play in unison?" - - - "Shoot one!" No offence

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 21:47, Malte Meyn wrote: > > Am 30.04.2018 um 21:32 schrieb Hans Åberg: >> One has to adapt the pitch on every note played, and the reference is >> typically the string section, which in turn is tuned in Pythagorean, > > Many string players tune

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 21:54, Malte Meyn wrote: > > Am 30.04.2018 um 15:50 schrieb Hans Åberg: >> But orchestral instruments depart from Pythagorean tuning, not E12, so they >> are not equivalent, differing by a comma of about 20 cents. > > Which orchestral instruments

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 21:54, Malte Meyn wrote: > > Am 30.04.2018 um 15:50 schrieb Hans Åberg: >> But orchestral instruments depart from Pythagorean tuning, not E12, so they >> are not equivalent, differing by a comma of about 20 cents. > > Which orchestral instruments do

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Am 30.04.2018 um 15:50 schrieb Hans Åberg: But orchestral instruments depart from Pythagorean tuning, not E12, so they are not equivalent, differing by a comma of about 20 cents. Which orchestral instruments do you refer to? All instruments that I know good enough use equal temperament or

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Am 30.04.2018 um 21:32 schrieb Hans Åberg: One has to adapt the pitch on every note played, and the reference is typically the string section, which in turn is tuned in Pythagorean, Many string players tune their perfect fifths a bit small so that they’re near to equal temperament (700 ct)

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote > Going a bit further, I bumped into this case. > > Since the note at some interval from another one keeps its pitch name in > its different « variants », how about Db’s seconds? > > diminished second Ebbb ??? > minor secondEbb > major secondEb >

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 21:11, Wols Lists wrote: > > On 30/04/18 14:50, Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:17, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: >>> >>> OK, now everything is clear, it’s precisely on jazz chords I’m working. >> >> FYI, I

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 21:11, Wols Lists wrote: > > On 30/04/18 14:50, Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:17, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: >>> >>> OK, now everything is clear, it’s precisely on jazz chords I’m working. >> >> FYI, I

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Wols Lists writes: > On 30/04/18 14:50, Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:17, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: >>> >>> OK, now everything is clear, it’s precisely on jazz chords I’m working. >> >> FYI, I recall the Mehegan books on jazz

Re: Intervals enharmony question

On 30/04/18 14:50, Hans Åberg wrote: > >> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:17, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: >> >> OK, now everything is clear, it’s precisely on jazz chords I’m working. > > FYI, I recall the Mehegan books on jazz improvisation applying enharmonic > equivalents

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 20:15, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: > > Going a bit further, I bumped into this case. > > Since the note at some interval from another one keeps its pitch name in its > different « variants », how about Db’s seconds? > > diminished second Ebbb ???

Re: Intervals enharmony question

Going a bit further, I bumped into this case. Since the note at some interval from another one keeps its pitch name in its different « variants », how about Db’s seconds? diminished second Ebbb ??? minor secondEbb major secondEb augemented second E I’m sure no one ever

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

Hi Torsten, A nice alternative method, one that requires some extra concentration but works well. Thank you very much. Best regards, Robert On 30 Apr 2018, at 12:51 , Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > Hi Robert, > > How about simply flipping the stacking direction? > >

Re: measures between the staffs

On 4/30/2018 12:35 PM, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: Hello Ben, Download the PDF’s and search in there, much more pleasant btw. JM Hi Bernhard, When I search the LilyPond documentation for "lilypond Bar lines between staves", the Mensurstriche results are displayed - however it's at the very

Re: measures between the staffs

Hello Ben, Download the PDF’s and search in there, much more pleasant btw. JM > Le 30 avr. 2018 à 15:26, Ben a écrit : > > On 4/30/2018 5:58 AM, Bernhard Kleine wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have the following piece and I want the measure bar inbetween the >> sstaffs,

Re: gridlayout of Bars with Clef

Hi Brian, Torsten, thanks, that's doing the trick! -- Orm Am Montag, den 30. April 2018 um 06:36:06 Uhr (-0700) schrieb Torsten Hämmerle: > A *very* simple example, but that should give you an idea: > > % > \version "2.19" > > \layout { indent = 0 \context { \Staff \remove

Re: Intervals enharmony question

> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:17, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: > > OK, now everything is clear, it’s precisely on jazz chords I’m working. FYI, I recall the Mehegan books on jazz improvisation applying enharmonic equivalents freely. The Blatter books on instrumentation suggests

Re: gridlayout of Bars with Clef

Orm Finnendahl-5 wrote > 1. The systemStartDelimiter of the bars of the first row is drawn >across all staves. > > 2. I can't find a straightforward way to add a full size clef on the >bars in the second and third row. Hi Orm, Scores can also be used within markup commands. And all in

Re: measures between the staffs

On 4/30/2018 5:58 AM, Bernhard Kleine wrote: Hi, I have the following piece and I want the measure bar inbetween the sstaffs, removing them from the staff was possible since I had an example of a madrigal of Monteverdi. But I do not see how to add them inbetween. Please point me to the correct

gridlayout of Bars with Clef

Hi, for a preface I need a grid layout of single bars with barlines on the left and right hand side, a clef for each bar and some music within. Below is a first attempt which should demonstrate the basic idea. My problems with this example: 1. The systemStartDelimiter of the bars of the first

Re: lyluatex: cannot \include lilypond file

Il giorno lun 30 apr 2018 alle 10:44, Urs Liska ha scritto: The problem is not the include (and so not the paths) but some parsing error with the % in the included file. lyluatex flattens the LilyPond file (in order to create a hash) by following all included files

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

Hi Robert, How about simply flipping the stacking direction? \override BassFigureAlignment.stacking-dir = #UP That way, the bass figures will be piled up from bottom to top. Caveat: the first figure entered will be the lowest. << { 4 4 4 4 4 4 } \figures { \override

Re: measures between the staffs

Thanks Brian, that I had forgotten. But I wonder why it does not appear on google when searching for "lilypond Bar lines between staves" (searched in German and in English) Thank you again and greetings from the Black Forest Bernhard Am 30.04.2018 um 12:25 schrieb Brian Barker: > At 11:58

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

Noeck writes: >> which can be achieved by using ‘_’ instead of a number. > > That's what I wanted to propose, but it didn't produce what I hoped for: > > \figures { < 5 4 > < _ 3+> } Oh. Ok. Sorry for the noise. -- David Kastrup

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

> which can be achieved by using ‘_’ instead of a number. That's what I wanted to propose, but it didn't produce what I hoped for: \figures { < 5 4 > < _ 3+> } Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

Hi David, Thanks for your reaction. You write "So blanking entries is done by entering _ instead of a number." I'm not sure I fully understand this. I have tried to get a number, for instance #3 on the second row by entering < _ 3+ >, but that didn't change anything; the #3 stayed on the top

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

Hi Malte, Many thanks. It is what I needed. (I think it should be in the Snippet-collection.) Best regards, Robert On 30 Apr 2018, at 11:03 , Malte Meyn wrote: > > > Am 30.04.2018 um 10:42 schrieb Robert Blackstone: >> Dear all, >> In the Lilypond documentation it

measures between the staffs

Hi, I have the following piece and I want the measure bar inbetween the sstaffs, removing them from the staff was possible since I had an example of a madrigal of Monteverdi. But I do not see how to add them inbetween. Please point me to the correct way! Regards Bernhard \version "2.19.49"

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

Robert Blackstone writes: > Dear all, > > In the Lilypond documentation it is shown how to stack BC figures, but I have > not > been able to find how to put a figure in the second row with nothing above it. > In my score I get: > * > but what I need is: > > * > > I

Re: Another Figured Bass problem

Am 30.04.2018 um 10:42 schrieb Robert Blackstone: Dear all, In the Lilypond documentation it is shown how to stack BC figures, but I have not been able to find how to put a figure in the second row with nothing above it. In my score I get: but what I need is: I got this result by

Re: lyluatex: cannot \include lilypond file

Hi Federico, Thanks for the report. Am 30.04.2018 um 09:59 schrieb Federico Bruni: Hi folks I'm trying to include a simple .ly file in the same directory of my .tex file. Why it's not working? The problem is not the include (and so not the paths) but some parsing error with the % in the

Another Figured Bass problem

Dear all, In the Lilypond documentation it is shown how to stack BC figures, but I have not been able to find how to put a figure in the second row with nothing above it. In my score I get: but what I need is: I got this result by entering \ before the number, like < \ 3+ >, and erasing

lyluatex: cannot \include lilypond file

Hi folks I'm trying to include a simple .ly file in the same directory of my .tex file. Why it's not working? $ cat nostringnumber.ly \layout { \context { % Do not display string numbers on Staff (I use TabStaff also) \Staff \omit StringNumber } } $ cat rel.tex