Re: Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

2019-10-17 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 2019-10-18 um 00:20 schrieb Urs Liska : > > But your comment reinforces my gut-feeling that the proper approach is not to > provide too many formats but rather a nice, well-defined selection. Hi Urs, I agree that probably only a neglectable minority would like to fiddle with a lot of

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Chris Crossen
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 7:42 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > Start of code > > \version "2.19.82" > { > \time 4/4 > \repeat unfold 1000 { c4 d e f } % TEN PAGES of music > \repeat unfold 1000 { f1 } % + SIX MORE PAGES of music > \repeat unfold 1000 { c4 d e f } % BUT WHEN ADDING MORE

Re: 64 bit

2019-10-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
From: "marco.massobrio" Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 11:12 PM To: Subject: 64 bit I Havel installed catalina 10.15 on my Mac andiamo lilypond 2.19.83 don't run HELP! Install the package from here: https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r HTH, Carl

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 10/17/19, 7:46 PM, "Chris Crossen" wrote: > On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chris Crossen wrote: > >> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out how to use

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Chris Crossen
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chris Crossen wrote: > >> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason >> (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work >> out how to use Hans’s version. >> Allan > > I have Catalina installed on a

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Chris Crossen
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user > wrote: > > Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason > (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out > how to use Hans’s version. > Allan I have Catalina

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out how to use Hans’s version. Allan > On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:41, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > I suggest you try Hans’s link (I mistakenly

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 01:41, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > I suggest you try Hans’s link (I mistakenly attributed it to Werner). It is > a package created in MacPorts, but I believe it does not require MacPorts to > be on the machine; it’s a package that was built separately. > >

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 01:39, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:30, Karlin High wrote: >>> >>> On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
I suggest you try Hans’s link (I mistakenly attributed it to Werner). It is a package created in MacPorts, but I believe it does not require MacPorts to be on the machine; it’s a package that was built separately. https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r I tried to test it out on my Mac

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:30, Karlin High wrote: >> >> On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >>> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will >>> appear on lilypond.org - I would expect >>> v2.20.0 or

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High writes: > On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will >> appear on lilypond.org  - I would expect >> v2.20.0 or thereabouts. Does anyone have a solid timetable? > > My current

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Thanks, Carl - your summary explains the situation pretty much as I expected, Many people in the community are working hard to solve the problem, but we are tied by external forces. If I can see any useful work I can do, I will be happy to volunteer. > On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:14, Carl Sorensen

Re: Qsynth not producing sound when used from within frescobaldi

2019-10-17 Thread Stan Sanderson
It works fine for me. (Mac OS 10.14, Frescobaldi 3 and qsynth from MacPorts.)Have you set preferences in Qsynth ( and selected a sound font)? The instructions for the Mac version of Frescobaldi are pretty clear. Stan > On Oct 17, 2019, at 4:52 PM, John Helly wrote: > > Aloha. > I

Re: Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

2019-10-17 Thread Saul Tobin
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 3:20 PM Urs Liska wrote: > 17. Oktober 2019 22:19, "Saul Tobin" schrieb: > > > The biggest killer-feature for me would be the ability to playback > multiple midi files > > simultaneously in sync (to work around the 16 track limitation). > > Sounds cool, but that's

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Thanks, Karlin It sounds as if the problem may be political and we just have to hope for a sensible political solution. > On 17 Oct 2019, at 23:30, Karlin High wrote: > > On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
From: Allan Kinnaird Date: Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 4:10 PM To: Subject: Re:Lilypond on OS X Catalina I have been disappointed by the responses on this and related threads. It seems to me that many of the responders have not fully absorbed the questions. The basis of the problem is

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Thanks for that, Hans, but I don’t understand what it means. I just want to be able to use Lilypond. Nobody who has bought a Mac since the launch of OS X 10.15 will be able to use Lilypond, and nobody else who uses Lilypond already can safely upgrade to the latest OS version. > On 17 Oct 2019,

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Stan Sanderson
I was a long time user of Fink, another package manager for Mac. Out of curiosity I tried Homebrew but learned it sprinkled files in many places. Fink had everything in one location, so it was easy to uninstall. MacPorts is my preference now, due to its file management policy and excellent

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:30, Karlin High wrote: > > On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on >> lilypond.org - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. >> Does anyone have a

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
And, alas, as I said, I want to avoid MacPorts for other reasons :-( (And MacPorts does not currently certify their version of lilypond-devel for 10.15, so maybe it works…) But thanks for the info. > On 17 Oct 2019, at 23:27, Hans Åberg wrote: > > >> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:10, Allan Kinnaird

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Karlin High
On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on lilypond.org  - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. Does anyone have a solid timetable? My current understanding is this: There

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:10, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user > wrote: > > I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on > lilypond.org - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. Does anyone have a > solid timetable? MacPorts lilypond-devel installs, and I just

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread eBooks
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user > wrote: > I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on > lilypond.org - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. Does anyone have a > solid timetable? This would be my question also.

Re: Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

2019-10-17 Thread Urs Liska
17. Oktober 2019 22:19, "Saul Tobin" schrieb: > The biggest killer-feature for me would be the ability to playback multiple > midi files > simultaneously in sync (to work around the 16 track limitation). Sounds cool, but that's obviously not on the table. I think this is the domain of DAWs.

Re: Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

2019-10-17 Thread Urs Liska
17. Oktober 2019 18:59, "Guy Stalnaker" schrieb: > Urs, > > I'm thinking you mean here "Frescobaldi on Linux" right (since you also say > fluidsynth)? I don't "mean" that but it seems that's what I'm talking about. However, although I don't know much about these things resources like

Re:Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
I have been disappointed by the responses on this and related threads. It seems to me that many of the responders have not fully absorbed the questions. The basis of the problem is that with Catalina (OS X 10.15) Apple has withdrawn support for any application not compiled for 64 bits. So, any

Re: Qsynth not producing sound when used from within frescobaldi

2019-10-17 Thread John Helly
Aloha. I reinstalled qsynth (not the macports version, which doesn't seem to build) and have it working now by, apparently, spinning the Gain dial. J. On 10/17/19 11:15, John Helly wrote: > Aloha. > > I'm using FB 2.20.0 with Qsynth 0.5.6 with fluidsynth 2.0.5 on OSX 10.14.6 > > When I try to

Re: Makefile help!

2019-10-17 Thread foxfanfare
foxfanfare wrote > I can now choose which piece I want to generate, but do you know how I can > also generate all the 35 pieces with the same command? (if possible) I just understood how to achieve that, sorry for the noise! -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: Qsynth not producing sound when used from within frescobaldi

2019-10-17 Thread Guy Stalnaker
I had the same problem with QSynth. But I cannot recall how/if I fixed it (I've since given up using my old MacBook once Apple also gave up on it in favor of a new Surface Laptop). But there may be a work-around. If you run fluidsynth from the command line into shell mode (type fluidsynth

Qsynth not producing sound when used from within frescobaldi

2019-10-17 Thread John Helly
Aloha. I'm using FB 2.20.0 with Qsynth 0.5.6 with fluidsynth 2.0.5 on OSX 10.14.6 When I try to playback midi from a score within FB using Qsynth, Qsynth shows the midi messages and the green-light blinks on and off appropriately but I get no sound. I've loaded the GeneralUser_GS_v1.471.sf2

Re: Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

2019-10-17 Thread Saul Tobin
The biggest killer-feature for me would be the ability to playback multiple midi files simultaneously in sync (to work around the 16 track limitation). Audio format-wise, I think mp3 is fine. I doubt anyone particularly cares about lossless quality for their general midi soundfont playback. On

ly:parser-lookup vs. eval

2019-10-17 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi all, a short internals-related question: What is - from the technical point of view - the difference between the following two ways of looking up a binding: bla = {     c4 } $(eval 'bla (current-module)) $(ly:parser-lookup 'bla) Is there a way to get a list of all toplevel bindings? All

Re: Makefile help!

2019-10-17 Thread foxfanfare
Karl Hammar wrote > Try something like: > > piano-solo.%.pdf: piano-solo.%.ly \ > $(general) \ > dialogs.%.ily \ > global.%.ily \ > notes.piano-solo.%.ily \ > pedals.%.ily > ... > > Have a look at "Syntax of Static Pattern Rules" in make documentation > $ info make

Re: Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

2019-10-17 Thread Guy Stalnaker
Urs, I'm thinking you mean here "Frescobaldi on Linux" right (since you also say fluidsynth)? I use Frescobaldi primarily on Windows. And though one can use Cygwin, etc. to install an app like timidity, Frescobaldi does not "see" it. But I can, and to, have lame installed because I can use

Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

2019-10-17 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, I've just started looking into how Frescobaldi provides support for "exporting" scores to audio. Until now this was hardcoded to use TiMidity (and had to be activated as "experimental feature"). I have so far created functionality that * checks whether timidity, fluidsynth and

Re: Double-underline markup

2019-10-17 Thread Urs Liska
Please go ahead Andrew. In OLL this should be a submodule below oll-misc.text. Best Urs 17. Oktober 2019 11:16, "Andrew Bernard" mailto:andrew.bern...@gmail.com?to=%22Andrew%20Bernard%22%20)> schrieb: Now this is great. I can volunteer to put this in Openlilylib if all you authors do not

Re: Double-underline markup

2019-10-17 Thread Andrew Bernard
Now this is great. I can volunteer to put this in Openlilylib if all you authors do not object. Perhaps somebody can make and LSR snippet also. I personally find OLL much more convenient. but I accept arguments in favour of LSR also. Can go in both. Andrew

Re: Double-underline markup

2019-10-17 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 15. Okt. 2019 um 13:19 Uhr schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider : > > Hi Urs a,d Aaron, > > Simply: > > \markup { > \underline > \override #'(offset . 6)\underline > "Lorem ipsum" > \override #'(offset . 5)\underline > \override #'(offset . 10)\underline > "dolor sit amet" > } > >

Re: lost in trying to fine oll-core and or package.ily

2019-10-17 Thread Freeman Gilmore
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 8:50 PM David Wright wrote: > On Wed 16 Oct 2019 at 00:17:06 (-0400), Freeman Gilmore wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 7:16 PM Urs Liska wrote: > > > > > Simon has already given a very clear answer, but I want to add some > more > > > examples that may help you