Re: Lilypond as graphic tool - I am looking for a specific thread in this mailing list

[Andrew Bernard]

Hello Manuela,

For 100% graphical scores like that, you would be way better off using
Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape. Sure, lilypond can do graphical shapes, but
that's really pushing the tool and causing a rod for your back - a lot of
effort making those paths manually. But my main objection is that that is
completely unmaintainable code. Anyway, up to you. An old saying is to use
the right tool for the job. This is using a chisel as a paintbrush. [No
disrespect intended!]


Andrew


On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 06:37, Manuela  wrote:

> Thank you very much Jean-Julien, this is exactly what I was looking for.
> Greetings from Austria
> Manuela
>
> PS: Maybe German speakers would like to check out my Lilypond-Wiki:
> https://lilypond.miraheze.org/
>
> Am Mo., 21. Okt. 2019 um 20:31 Uhr schrieb Jean-Julien Fleck <
> jeanjulien.fl...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Le lun. 21 oct. 2019 à 19:55, Manuela  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Kieren, thank you for your reply. This was not the thread I meant, there
>>> were
>>> several different graphs. It actually may be not this mailinglist where
>>> this
>>> was posted what I am searching for,
>>> thank you
>>> Manuela
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps was it this thread:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg131765.html
>> leading to this page http://lilybin.com/u8vxbi/1
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> --
>> JJ Fleck
>> Physique et Informatique
>> PCSI1 Lycée Kléber
>>
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Re: Lilypond as graphic tool - I am looking for a specific thread in this mailing list

[Manuela]

Thank you very much Jean-Julien, this is exactly what I was looking for.
Greetings from Austria
Manuela

PS: Maybe German speakers would like to check out my Lilypond-Wiki:
https://lilypond.miraheze.org/

Am Mo., 21. Okt. 2019 um 20:31 Uhr schrieb Jean-Julien Fleck <
jeanjulien.fl...@gmail.com>:

> Hello,
>
> Le lun. 21 oct. 2019 à 19:55, Manuela  a
> écrit :
>
>> Kieren, thank you for your reply. This was not the thread I meant, there
>> were
>> several different graphs. It actually may be not this mailinglist where
>> this
>> was posted what I am searching for,
>> thank you
>> Manuela
>>
>
> Perhaps was it this thread:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg131765.html
> leading to this page http://lilybin.com/u8vxbi/1
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
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>
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Re: Lilypond as graphic tool - I am looking for a specific thread in this mailing list

[Jean-Julien Fleck]

Hello,

Le lun. 21 oct. 2019 à 19:55, Manuela  a
écrit :

> Kieren, thank you for your reply. This was not the thread I meant, there
> were
> several different graphs. It actually may be not this mailinglist where
> this
> was posted what I am searching for,
> thank you
> Manuela
>

Perhaps was it this thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg131765.html
leading to this page http://lilybin.com/u8vxbi/1

Cheers,

-- 
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Physique et Informatique
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Re: Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

[Urs Liska]

Am 21. Oktober 2019 18:52:29 MESZ schrieb Saul Tobin 
:
>Would the bundled VLC be redundant to an existing system install of
>VLC?
>Would it be usable instead of a system install? Would the bundled VLC
>get
>updates?

As I've said several times in this thread *bundling* anything with Frescobaldi 
is not what we are talking about here.

Urs

>
>I normally have VLC installed anyway, but I'd rather not have to keep a
>separate copy on disk just for Frescobaldi.
>
>
>On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 10:33 PM Federico Bruni 
>wrote:
>
>> Il giorno ven 18 ott 2019 alle 23:14, J Martin Rushton via
>> lilypond-user  ha scritto:
>> > There is a VLC available through flatpack, but I've not used it (so
>> > therefore cannot comment), but have seen warnings that it will pull
>in
>> > up to 1.2 GiB of other packages including the complete KDE
>> > implementation.
>>
>> $ flatpak info org.videolan.VLC | grep 'Installed'
>>Installed: 77,7 MB
>>
>> $ flatpak info org.kde.Platform//5.13 | grep Installed
>>Installed: 910,3 MB
>>
>> The KDE runtime may be used by other Qt applications installed in
>your
>> system.
>>
>> You may want to read this post by the author of Flatpak:
>>
>>
>https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2017/10/02/on-application-sizes-and-bloat-in-flatpak/
>>
>> In a nutshell: Flatpak is a bundling system and as such it requires
>> more disk space, but the benefits (of shipping a self-contained and
>> independent application) may offset the cost for some people,
>> especially today (as large disks are smaller and cheaper). The
>article
>> explains how ostree helps in reducing the duplication between similar
>> runtimes.
>>
>>
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Re: Lilypond as graphic tool - I am looking for a specific thread in this mailing list

[David Wright]

On Mon 21 Oct 2019 at 11:05:13 (-0700), Manuela wrote:
> Kieren, thank you for your reply. This was not the thread I meant, there were
> several different graphs. It actually may be not this mailinglist where this
> was posted what I am searching for,

Did John Stump use LilyPond? (Google john stump scores and ignore the
cricket statistics.)

Perhaps you need to give some indication of what took your breath away.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: Lilypond as graphic tool - I am looking for a specific thread in this mailing list

[Manuela]

Kieren, thank you for your reply. This was not the thread I meant, there were
several different graphs. It actually may be not this mailinglist where this
was posted what I am searching for,
thank you
Manuela



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Re: Lilypond as graphic tool - I am looking for a specific thread in this mailing list

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Manuela,

> I believe to remember that some time ago someone posted some really
> breathtaking examples of Lilypond's graphic abilities

I’m assuming you meant my Riemannian Tonnetz graph work?


Hope that helps!
Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his)
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info


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Lilypond as graphic tool - I am looking for a specific thread in this mailing list

[Manuela]

Hi alltogether,
I believe to remember that some time ago someone posted some really
breathtaking examples of Lilypond's graphic abilities (correct me if I am
wrong and it was not on this mailing list). Unfortunately I am not able to
find the thread again, does someone remember the thread and can provide a
link?
Thank you very much
Manuela



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RE: note spacing

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Aaron Hill,

Thank you for your continued interest in my request.
I finally came to the "non-breaking beams" cause with a "well-dah" moment.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
Aaron Hill
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 9:09 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: note spacing

On 2019-10-20 8:28 pm, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
> Thank you for your response and suggestions.
> The \paper command does not make any changes.
> A \break cannot be inserted on any of the measures with cross bar beam.
> My last resort is to remove the beams.

That is because Beams are not breakable by default.  You can change
that:


\version "2.19.83"
\paper { indent = #0 ragged-right = ##t }

break-beams = \override Beam.breakable = ##t

{ b'2.. \once \break-beams 8[ | \break 8] 2.. } 


-- Aaron Hill


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Re: Frescobaldi, improve support for audio export

[Saul Tobin]

Would the bundled VLC be redundant to an existing system install of VLC?
Would it be usable instead of a system install? Would the bundled VLC get
updates?

I normally have VLC installed anyway, but I'd rather not have to keep a
separate copy on disk just for Frescobaldi.


On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 10:33 PM Federico Bruni  wrote:

> Il giorno ven 18 ott 2019 alle 23:14, J Martin Rushton via
> lilypond-user  ha scritto:
> > There is a VLC available through flatpack, but I've not used it (so
> > therefore cannot comment), but have seen warnings that it will pull in
> > up to 1.2 GiB of other packages including the complete KDE
> > implementation.
>
> $ flatpak info org.videolan.VLC | grep 'Installed'
>Installed: 77,7 MB
>
> $ flatpak info org.kde.Platform//5.13 | grep Installed
>Installed: 910,3 MB
>
> The KDE runtime may be used by other Qt applications installed in your
> system.
>
> You may want to read this post by the author of Flatpak:
>
> https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2017/10/02/on-application-sizes-and-bloat-in-flatpak/
>
> In a nutshell: Flatpak is a bundling system and as such it requires
> more disk space, but the benefits (of shipping a self-contained and
> independent application) may offset the cost for some people,
> especially today (as large disks are smaller and cheaper). The article
> explains how ostree helps in reducing the duplication between similar
> runtimes.
>
>
>
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Re: Transposing choral score

[David Wright]

On Mon 21 Oct 2019 at 09:52:06 (+0100), Graham King wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2019, at 05:11, David Wright  wrote:
> > On Sun 20 Oct 2019 at 11:39:46 (-0700), timecurve wrote:
> >> I am trying to transpose the attached file (Palestrina's /Missa Gabriel
> >> archangelus/) down a tone (from F major/d minor to Eb major/c minor). I 
> >> have
> >> looked through similar posts on this forum, and, being completely
> >> inexperienced with Lilypond, was not able to successfully follow their
> >> instructions. I would really appreciate your help with this! 
> > 
> > I added this string:
> > 
> > \transpose f es
> > 
> > after each occurrence of
> > 
> > \score {
> > 
> > with 14 occurrences in all. But be aware that apart from the incipits,
> > you put a line break between \score and {, making a global edit a bit
> > more difficult.
> > 
> > Why does it work. In the body of the mass,
> > 
> > \score { \transpose f es \new ChoirStaff … … }
> > 
> > the transpose directive applies to the *single* item which follows it,
> > and that is the \new ChoirStaff, which contains all the music. So it
> > all gets transposed.
> > 
> > In the incipits,
> > 
> > incipitcantus = \markup { \score { \transpose f es
> >{
> >   \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \fontsize #1 "Cantus (S)" }
> >   \key f \major
> >   \clef violin
> >   s4 \bar ""
> >}
> > 
> > the brace { on the second line encloses the several items following,
> > so the transpose directive applies to everything inside the braces,
> > which contains all the (blank) music. The braces make it all into
> > a *single* item as far as transpose is concerned.

> It's your choice of course, but there is no need to transpose incipits in 
> renaissance music.  In fact, it is positively unhelpful.  An incipit with the 
> first note in the original pitch tells the reader several things, including 
> what transposition the editor has applied.  In the case of Missa Gabriel 
> archangelus, the presence of a C4 clef in the bassus and G2 in the cantus 
> tells us that Palestrina wrote in "chiavi transportati" (chiavette) and that 
> transposition, at sight, down a fourth (in this case) might have been 
> expected.  If the editor transposes the incipits, that expectation can be 
> altered.

You're quite right, of course, and I would expect to see a stack of
rests (as appropriate) and the first note included in each one.

But in the example, transposing them was a teaching moment as it
nicely contrasts with the scores themselves. All my scores are
set very similarly:

#(set-global-staff-size 20)
\book {
  \bookOutputSuffix "piano"
  \score {
\transpose af ef
\new PianoStaff <<
  \new Staff <<

except most of course have \transpose f f. Leaving my reply at that
wouldn't explain that the third argument of \transpose must be a
single item, meaning that braces have to be added where necessary.
OTOH adding braces (or << >>) everywhere, "just in case", gets
criticised on this list.

> Hoping that saves you a little effort :)

BTW if the OP moves to 2.19, there's an \incipit command which might
save even more.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: midi instrument for ChordNames

[Thomas Morley]

Am Mo., 21. Okt. 2019 um 11:12 Uhr schrieb Sandro Santilli :
>
> I can't get anything but a piano rendering of ChordNames staff,
> can other instruments be used ? If so, how ?
>
> This is my sheet snippet:
>
>   <<
> \new ChordNames {
>   \set midiInstrument = "flute" % does not work here
>   \harmony
> }
> \new Staff
> {
>   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "flute" % works fine here
>   \new Voice = "vocal" { \melody }
> }
>   >>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> --strk;

Hi,

please always provide a MWE, with the lily-version in it.

Anyway, I assume you're at 2.18.2 (it would have worked out of the box
with 2.19.83)
For _Staff_ you do _Staff_.midiInstrument.
Why not _ChordNames_.midiInstrument for ChordNames then?
Even better to use a \with for it, p.e.
\new ChordNames \with { midiInstrument = "flute" }

HTH,
  Harm

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midi instrument for ChordNames

[Sandro Santilli]

I can't get anything but a piano rendering of ChordNames staff,
can other instruments be used ? If so, how ?

This is my sheet snippet:

  <<
\new ChordNames {
  \set midiInstrument = "flute" % does not work here
  \harmony
}
\new Staff
{
  \set Staff.midiInstrument = "flute" % works fine here
  \new Voice = "vocal" { \melody }
}
  >>

Thanks in advance

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Re: Transposing choral score

[Graham King]

It's your choice of course, but there is no need to transpose incipits in 
renaissance music.  In fact, it is positively unhelpful.  An incipit with the 
first note in the original pitch tells the reader several things, including 
what transposition the editor has applied.  In the case of Missa Gabriel 
archangelus, the presence of a C4 clef in the bassus and G2 in the cantus tells 
us that Palestrina wrote in "chiavi transportati" (chiavette) and that 
transposition, at sight, down a fourth (in this case) might have been expected. 
 If the editor transposes the incipits, that expectation can be altered.

Hoping that saves you a little effort :)
-- Graham


> On 21 Oct 2019, at 05:11, David Wright  wrote:
> 
> On Sun 20 Oct 2019 at 11:39:46 (-0700), timecurve wrote:
>> Palestrina_Missa_Gabriel_archangelus_-_1.ly
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> I am trying to transpose the attached file (Palestrina's /Missa Gabriel
>> archangelus/) down a tone (from F major/d minor to Eb major/c minor). I have
>> looked through similar posts on this forum, and, being completely
>> inexperienced with Lilypond, was not able to successfully follow their
>> instructions. I would really appreciate your help with this! 
> 
> I added this string:
> 
> \transpose f es
> 
> after each occurrence of
> 
> \score {
> 
> with 14 occurrences in all. But be aware that apart from the incipits,
> you put a line break between \score and {, making a global edit a bit
> more difficult.
> 
> Why does it work. In the body of the mass,
> 
> \score { \transpose f es \new ChoirStaff … … }
> 
> the transpose directive applies to the *single* item which follows it,
> and that is the \new ChoirStaff, which contains all the music. So it
> all gets transposed.
> 
> In the incipits,
> 
> incipitcantus = \markup { \score { \transpose f es
>{
>   \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \fontsize #1 "Cantus (S)" }
>   \key f \major
>   \clef violin
>   s4 \bar ""
>}
> 
> the brace { on the second line encloses the several items following,
> so the transpose directive applies to everything inside the braces,
> which contains all the (blank) music. The braces make it all into
> a *single* item as far as transpose is concerned.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
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